I'm in the same boat as you. I want to know who can pull a better tune. I do know that Evans Tuning have tuned some monster cars at their shop for awhile and they only charge you one time for etuning and no extra packages to choose from like the other guys.

 

My car is just about finished being tuned by VIT @ E-Tunez. Let me tell you, its a whole different animal. I will have a fairly lengthy review Monday or Tuesday. Also, the guys at E-Tunez are all ACTIVE members here on the board.

 

^exactly why its also a plus. Their prices are also cheaper and it seems as if you get a better deal all together. Re-tune is cheap too if you add a new mod.

Trust me, drop VitViper a line, you will NOT be disappointed.

Vit/BV1/Mucter/Rulo and of course Dan0974, you cant forget him. are genious's when it comes to tuning. I would not trust anyone else out their to do my etune.

They are also very helpful if you have questions, without charging.

As mentioned above they are active on here, helping the community or if you feel like chatting they also are regulars (and mods) on flashprotuning.com.

They will not disappoint.

 

^exactly why its also a plus. Their prices are also cheaper and it seems as if you get a better deal all together. Re-tune is cheap too if you add a new mod.

 

Trust me, drop VitViper a line, you will NOT be disappointed.

 

So what's up with the limit revisions they give you at E-tunez? And the extra packages they charge you with. Evans tuning just has one price and unlimited revs on tunining from what I understood. I could be wrong cuz I just read it on my iPhone.

 

We have been working out sponsorship details with Webby. I will explain more on what we offer here on 8th, at that point, as I don't want to break any rules.

However to answer the OP, our details can be found here: E-Tunez: ECU Tuning for FlashPro and AccessPORT | E-Tunez

Evans tuning details can be found here: Tuning | Evans Tuning Blog

I would like to point out we are interested in working with other tuning shops and not against them. We came about to offer a service that was not available or was offered by individuals only. As a group of tuners, who all own, drive and tune the same car with different FI and NA builds we allow our experience as fellow 8th owners to benefit our customers. And thus we strongly recommend a complete, detailed E-tune and analysis of all tables affected by the modifications, prior to a dyno tune, whether its done by us or not.

For the best tune, at least 3-6 hours of seperate map (or revisions) data analysis is necessary before a car can be running stable with near perfect Short Term Fuel Trim's and thus stable Injector Pulse Widths and is ready for the consistency necessary for proper dyno tuning. Our revisions in our tuning packages are a minimum they are there to spread out the tuning over several days for better averaging. If we exceed the revision minimums and there is still a problem with the tune (ie improper AFR, unstable STFT, high knock counts etc), we keep going until things are sorted. A tune is only as good as the time you spend on it. If someone comes back 2 months later after adding a CAI etc, we charge $39 (current rates) to continue the tuning process where we left off, just to cover our time.

Our revisions are our guarantee that you will get at least this many revisions and at least this much time and averaging. If the map is good at that point we stop the tuning process, if there is still a problem we keep going. Ultimately we want our fellow 8th members to be happy, so we won't leave you hanging no matter the situation. The costs associated with our tuning and the hours we spend creating maps and analyzing data (both dyno data and datalog data) are minimized as much as possible and are there just to add sustainability to our sport and hobby and to justify the time we spend to our families.

We are not really interested in competition or taking business away from fellow shops, especially reputable well known shops like Evans Tuning, but rather we are here to aid fellow enthusiasts in getting their "ducks in a row" before they head down to the dyno.

This makes the users happy that they save time on the dyno, the dyno shop happy that the tuning is straight forward with no hidden issues / knock etc, and ultimately the engine runs better and lasts longer.

The fact the more and more shops are realizing this is a service enthusiasts want, is encouraging

Steve

 

Sweet! That is all I was needing to know. I was just confused on the services that are open to us. So I was wondering if E-Tunez and tune my car for stock performance. I have nothing on my car yet but I will soon. I have been using the FP to fix that Rev Hang but I notice my gas go way down and my AFR is really high at times. So should I just go with the basic package from you guys?

 

^Great post Steve, i'm ordering an E-tune from you guys. :thumb:

 

i must say i have never dealt with Evans Tuning, however I have dealt with E-tunez.com and they did my Tune on my car via Datalogging and e-mails (just like all other E-tunes) and i must say the car gets 340 Miles to the tank (where as it used to get between 290-301) the power is THERE! the car feels so smooth it is great! VitViper and BV1 were the 2 guys that worked on my car, but from what i have seen doesnt matter who at E-tunez works on your car they are all great at what they do!

 

Thanks Vantage jus leave me out n all... :wink:

 

I could never forget u dan.

 

Jeff @ Evans-tuning is the man when it comes to tuning I only bring my car to him and all my friends as well, after they saw how great my car came out after being tuned by him!!

 

I can vouch 1st hand for E-tunes Rulo in particular. He was great great great! My car was running pig rich before my tune, was dyno tuned prior and wasnt happy with the results overall. My car was backfiring everywhere, my clothes smelled like exhaust and eyes watered at redlights. I thought this was normal as i never ran a race header without cat before this. My gas mileage wasnt terrible but wasnt what people were saying. My vtec was basically on/off at 4700 no window. I sent many many datalogs of various runs of city and highway driving. He looked them over and told me exactly what he can do for me. Since I was so close to him he was willing to meet up with me and live datalog and recailbrate in car. He was a great personable guy. The knowledge he has with tuning flashpro in general was shocking. I am lost when it comes to tuning but i am learning as I go on. He basically started from scratch and reworked my whole car. It was a tedious long night of driving part throttle with wide open throttle runs towards the end of the night. Let me tell you at the end of the night on the drive home was such a pleasure. My car purrs now. I have a nice vtec window from 3700on up if i step on it. The transition is super super smooth. My air/fuel ratios are spot on and im getting great gas mileage to boot. No more backfires and my exhaust tip is staying much cleaner. Now when i step on the gas hard she pulls like a banshee all the way to 8600 with not one hiccup. I have no more knocks at all. It was great meeting him and having someone that i can turn to who has our 8thgen civic and knows the cars ecu inside and out. He is quickly to lend a hand and get you what your looking for.

 

honestly, i don't think you can go wrong with either. I went with evans b/c i got a discount by purchasing FP through them, as well as the fact that i'm going to get a full dyno tune when i get my SC, which they also credit like 75% of your etune towards that

 

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im sure there both in their own right. Im just expressing my experience with Rulo from E-tunes. A real knowledgable individual when it comes to hondata and cobb and is willing to make our 8th gen purr like a kitten at idle and roar like a Lion at full throttle.

 

i bought my flashpro from evans tuning as well. both vendors sound excellent based on reviews.

 

ive not been e-tuned by either of these guys, but vit did help tune my wot as well as gave me some general tweaks to my tune. 3 revisions and my car drove soooooooooo much better than the 20+ revision tune i got from another guy. and to think i wasnt even a customer.... I cant see how you'd go wrong with either choice really, but im leaning towards t-tunez since they just know these particular cars so well

 

I chose Jeff Evans to tune my 09 coupe with simple mods: Injen CAI, Vibrant RH w/ HFC and Vibrant's Gen 2 cat back exhaust. After the initial cold start/hot start datalogs along with 10 minutes of highway driving, 10 minutes if city driving and 2, 3rd gear pulls, I have to say I'm impressed.

I'm on my 6th calibration and the car has been running great. Just for the hell of it I sent 2 of my 3rd gear pulls (back to back in alternate directions) to VitViper for an e-dyno which resulted in 224 and 217 whp. Gas mileage has maybe dropped 0.5 mpg, but I think that may be due to my right foot as the car is a blast to drive.

As this may be my final calibration Jeff recommended that I drive it for a couple of weeks and then send him another set of datalogs just to make sure everything was right.
Which I'll be doing this weekend.

I was very impressed at his fast turn around time. I'd datalog on my way home from work, send them to him and receive my next calibration before I left for work in the morning and this included weekends. Jeff's attention to my car made me feel like I was his only customer and that he cared for it as much as I do.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend his service.

 

Both provide great tuning. You can't lose with either one. The nice thing about E-tunez is working with people who have an established reputation here on the forum. Jay, Vit and Steve as well as Rulo have an incredible amount of tuning experience and knowledge. When my car is finally done with the mods I am doing and after it gets dyno tuned, I will still have Vit do a fine tune for me.

 

Bill, you're going to Dyno tune first and then get an Etune? :scratches: explain the reasoning behind that...

Thanks for all the opinions guys :thumb:

 

Yes, for the simple reason that I want to maximize everything I have done to my car. Sometimes a second opinion or this case, second tune will fine tune everything. My tuner is good, really good, but Vit and Jay seem to understand FlashPro and K motors just about better than anyone I can think of. I had an incredible amount of respect for them as well as Steve-BV1. K-motored Hondas are their forte and I trust their final judgement on the issue.

 

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Ok, as odd as this sounds, I have been dyno tuned by Jeff, and recently I have just had Vitviper clean up some stuff in the calibration. (Even Jay contributed something to my cal.)

Just to preface, the tune that I received from Jeff Evans was awesome, and the service that I had received was nothing short of exemplary.

Now, we all know that having your car tuned by a professional on a dyno is the best way to get your car running to its max potential. (Granted that the tuner is good, I.E. Jeff Evans)

About 5 months have passed since I've been tuned by Jeff. When I was tuned by Jeff, it was about 30 degrees out. So I figured it would be a great idea to revisit my calibration and see if anything could use a change or two. (Its now in the 70-90 degree range.) Also, over this 5 month time period I've had tons of time to observe the quirks and short comings of my car and its tune. Most of these things were relative to every day driving conditions, partial throttle tuning, etc. Enter VitViper.

My car was running great before, and now it's running even better. The partial throttle was cleaned up greatly, I now do not have "over run" as much as I did, and over all, driving my car under normal driving circumstances (daily driving for instance.) is leaps and bounds better.


Anyhow, the aforementioned is just one of the reasons you may want to visit these gents regardless of if you have been tuned on a dyno or not.

Firstly, these guys know their stuff. They're pretty quick at reviewing your calibration and/or datalogs and pointing out/ fixing any shortcomings.

Secondly, I have found that many times a professional tuners time, or time spent on a dyno may be limited. The smaller details such as partial throttle, etc. are usually left out. Vit and the rest of the gang are very good at fine tuning elements such as these.

Thirdly, I've personally met/spoke with some of these guys in "real life". They are a great bunch of guys with a vast amount of knowledge. Also, when they are tuning your calibration, they will go as far as to tell you in great depth what they are changing, and why. So 99% of the time you end up learning stuff along the way.

To summarize, both Jeff Evans and the guys at "Etunez" are good, knowledgeable people. As I've stated previously, you can't go wrong with either.

Thanks,
K

Quoted for truth, I think you have your answer OP. Dyno tuning and street tuning should go hand in hand. Oh yeah and I think I would go Evans. This is mostly because they have been handed plain tickets by influential aftermarket parts suppliers to come tune there cars.

Caugh* Full-Race

 

Keith, its a shame that after you're car has been on the dyno, its still not running 100% and requires More tunning to be done to get it "drive-able" (just not WOT power)

 

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My '10 civic needs a tune, BAD. Its 100% stock but you can feel its struggles... maybe if an A/T FP becomes available Ill get it just so I can stop hating my car : /

 

I feel you on that one. I'm looking to get FP hopefully this summer. My car needs it with a passion. I love it the dearly and take lots of pride in it. I feel a great tune will wake it up and show its potential and in the end make it an overall better driving experience.

-Matt-

 

I'm going to let Dan at E-tunez tune my s/c Si. I've heard great things about e-tunez and I'm expecting once I get my first revision I'm going to be very satisfied.