I thought the Cobalt SS was fast, but what the heck, beating the Evo MR, WRSX STI, 135i (lol overpriced BMW)?

Mugen Si being slow isn't surprising. I bet almost all of the 1.7 sec improvement is from the suspension. Too much fluff for the Mugen. Would've been better with turbo or S/C, and not all the superfluous ground effects.

 

Now what everyones wants to know is, will it withstand the test of time and wear and tear?

 

Why are we comparing a turboed car against non turboed? Of course it's faster. Throw a turbo on any of those cars and the Cobalt will be coughing in dust.

 

Because they technically still in the same class: sports compacts.

I agree its a bit uneven of a competition, but it's still legit. If you want the most power for the money...Cobalt SS/TC is the only way to go.

 

Probably no better or worse than the Si, depending on how it is cared for.

I've seen an awfully disproportionate number of people saying that their Civics are falling apart after a year or so, myself included.

Honda's motors are rockstars, no doubt, but those Ecotec engines hold their own too, from what I've seen. I think both cars have positives and negatives.

And I also think that the level of quality and perceived reliability is much closer than most would suggest.

 

Or buy the si and get the greddy kit for the same price depending on location.

 

i really like the SS...if i didn't need the high mpg my r18 gets i'd be all for an SS

 

Wow that is crazy...beating evo/sti...

 

true... When I get home I'll go up against a TC and see how it's done at the track.

 

Thanks for this incredible find. I am quite amazed by the performance. Shows how buttoned down the suspension is on the Cobalt SS. That time was not made on the motor alone. It shows a synergy of handling, braking and acceleration as well as overall balance.

Those Ecotec motors are quite stout and should last for the long haul.

 

Those Ecotec motors are quite stout and should last for the long haul.

The atom guys had a lot of problems with the old supercharged ecotec engines. I guess we'll have to see how this engine does.

 

It is...quite amazing

 

They good now, what about 4 years?

 

Any car if properly maintained can last a long time.

 

Some you just have to maintain more than others.

 

I find it irritating that the SS has 260hp/260 ft-lbs and it is STILL front wheel drive.

 

FWD does suck...and the first ss/tc just made it into the 12's recently.

 

still just a modern-day Cavalier, I'm sorry that car will never be considered cool, no matter what they do. Try having to rent a Cobalt while on a trip and then you can see how much of a FAIL these cars are, or worse yet if you actually buy one, telling girls you're car is a Cobalt (FAIL).

 

That's one of the dumbest arguments I've heard. Our cars are glorified Civics. That's all. That's nothing special or important. Civics are widely considered to be reliable, boring cars (of course the new ones are a nice exception).

The Cobalt is infinintely better than the Cavalier it replaced. I've driven several, and found them to be just as competant as the Civic, minus a more boring interior.

And PS, I got more ass with my black Firebird than I've had with my Civic Si. People hear the word Civic and go "Oh. Haha." Then they see it and go "Wow, that's a Civic".

No, the Cobalt isn't perfect: it needs an update. But to slam it to the extent you did is foolish. The Civic Si is nothing more than a glorified Civic. There's no difference.

 

Did they use same drivers? The mugen has been proven slower on all other tests.

 

:yeahthat:

Ding Ding Ding...same drivers? Same Conditions? Pro Drivers? Journalist Drivers (aka horribles).

So many things go into it...I doubt a cobalt would put down an = time of a Evo MR/STi if the Stig got inside all 3 of them. He'd be taking turns in the EVO at 100mph. Not someone who probably took them at 60-70mph.

 

Cobalt SS/TC FTW

 

It's still fun kicking ass in a modern day cavalier lol

 

Cobalt SS\TC FTW and its only 21K

 

Here, it's 24k. If you want the lsd, it's definitely not 21k. They can say that on the computer all they want, but the dealers all screw that up.

The "Dodge" Caliber -get it right- is boosted as well, making 300hp. I would hope so.

 

lol even the Chrysler SRT4 is faster then the civic. Whenever a new civic comes out, it better have like 60-80 more HP to even compete with anybody

 

I suppose but the mindset of domestic cars being of horrible quality is pretty outdated now. I had a camaro that I beat on ran perfectly until I traded it in at 110k miles, still had a lot of life left in it. Was sad to see it go.

 

It's not something that's going to easily leave peoples' minds for a while when GM has a broadcast to amp it's new cars and state that they left out stuff from cars sometimes and they claim they know they had crappy cars. Doing that and then saying, we realize what we did, but trust us now and it'll be ok. I'll tell you what, alot of people out there wouldn't buy that **** from a woman that cheated on them.

 

My SS fully loaded came to 22,874 including tax, title, and license

 

You're so lucky. What all came with it? Did you get the sunroof or lsd?
I wish I would have saved my money a little longer and took a trip to AJP and had everything done right instead of getting the s/c. I like the s/c, but I want more now.

 

Gm has not broadcasted this car in particular, and the malibu is pretty nice for what it is. I guess there is no changing the mind of stubborn brand-loyal car owners. It's best to be open-minded and give credit to cars that deserve it.

 

I don't even think reliability is the main issue. Great performers, but I think the Cobalt is ugly as sin. Which is why I don't care for one.

Never thought the Si was the fastest compact, and that wasn't why I bought it. Hats off to GM though. Best bang-for-the-buck car for performance.

 

There's a dealer in Ohio I believe that is selling quite a few for 19,700 because of "wind damage" not exactly sure what that entails but I guess a few of them had some parts repainted.

 

Man this car is sick, it also sounds sick it comes with the GMP performance cat-back system, the seats are way better then they where, beautiful and fast car and on top of that you get a pioneer system with a 10inch custom sub in the truck and the amp to push it.
That also came in the SS\SC but man that system hits for been factory.

 

I don't think the GMPP exhaust works for the LNF...not sure if they're coming out with one but I'm about 99% sure they are. No more leather seats because I guess people slide around too easy in them. And they respond to the small amount of mods available very very well.