Not sure what other parts are necessary for the RSX pump. From what I understand some material needs to be grinded off for the pump to fit in the pan but it doesn't require extra parts.

But to answer your question; Bboy_Burst rocks the FD2 pump and I asked him about it once. He said the FD2 pump will directly bolt-on with no modification to the pump itself or the pan as opposed to the RSX Type-S pump. However, he mentioned that pump needed to be assembled. This could be because of the place he ordered it from. I would ask him for more information.

 

Thank you very much. I have a list of the parts needed for the type-s swap but I wanted to send the pump I get to hytech to be blueprinted. Going with the fd2 with no additional parts seems a better way to go.

 

I'm in for more info on this aswell.

Regards

 

the fd2 civic type-r oil pump and the rsx type-s oil pump are exactly the same mechanically. what varies is the exterior. they are machined differently to accomodate their respective blocks. honda changed the lower portion of the block a long time ago.

the k20a off the jdm ep3 ctr, jdm dc5 itr, the k20a3, k20a2, k20z1, and the k24a1 out of the 02-06 crv have the blocks machined in a way that the prb oil pump used on the k20a, k20a2, and k20z1 all attach to these blocks without any modifications and work with prb oil pan.

the k24a4, k24a8, k24a2, k24z1, k24z2, k20z3 etc etc. basically all the newer generation blocks use the new design on the bottom with a raised edge.

the k24a4, k24a8, and k24a2 have been out since 2004 from the previous generation accord, element, and tsx. this was way before the rrc fd2 oil pump was ever released. so what people have done is modify the prb pump to clear the hump on the block.

the rrc oil pump clears the hump. it's machined from the factory differently and requires no modification to fit.

you will still need the baffle, chain, guides, etc. from an rsx type-s.

 

this is why I ask the question can I uses the type S oil pump because of this quote. O and someone already tried to uses the type S oil pump on a K24z2 and it didnt bolt up, so Im thinks that I will have to get a type R oil pump then

 

But they are exactly the same? So there is no benefit other than direct bolt up without grinding for the fd2 pump. I still need around $70 worth of parts to make it work.

 

I was bout to do an oil pump swap but *** that ***** looked like too much of a hassle ain't worth it in my book.

 

If I do the cams and tensioner at the same time it is for me at least. I wanted to send it to Hytech to get blueprinted as well.

 

Ya I herd bout needing a tensioner for that *****. Too much bs but ay if ur down for it then I wanna see u make a diy lol

 

I let my friend do all that stuff at his shop. I don't touch the internals of the engine/head, or chains/tensioner.

 

you will need the following items.....

15231-PE0-000 VALVE, RELIEF
15232-PG6-000 SPRING, RELIEF VALVE
15233-PC6-000 BOLT, SEALING (18MM)
95701-06020-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X20)
95701-06045-08 BOLT, FLANGE (6X45)
13441-PCX-004 CHAIN (64L)
13450-PNA-004 Tensioner, CHAIN
13460-PNC-004 GUIDE, OIL PUMP CHAIN
11221-PNC-000 PLATE, BAFFLE

 

Did the block have to be removed from the car in order to instal the FD2 parts Bboy_Burst??

 

or you can buy the RSX Type S Oil Pump and you'll only need.....

13441-PCX-004 CHAIN (64L)
13450-PNA-004 Tensioner, CHAIN
13460-PNC-004 GUIDE, OIL PUMP CHAIN
11221-PNC-000 PLATE, BAFFLE

 

I noticed I stop makin power (as well as a few other SI ppl) at 8400, is it because I have this pump?

 

Thank you bboy burst for that info. And fresh si the oil pump will not limit the output of your engine.

 

are u sure? cuz i herd ablout the fd2 pump releasing a few extra hp up top and i was thinking maybe most end power at 8400 cuz the oil pump is at its limit

 

Expect around 4bhp up top... as well as a more rev happy engine.

 

^^

why won't it work?

 

I still dont understand why the type s pump is better then the SI's there motors are close to identical minus very minor things..

 

I believe the Civic Si oil pump has the balance shafts that restrict the oil flow a bit but give a smoother idling where the RSX-S oil pump doesn't have that.

 

That's odd, because I have the FD2 oil pump and I am hitting 90psi of oil pressure. Maybe you only need the top spring if you are using the RSX oil pump?

 

^^
try and see what your oil pressure is at high rpm.

 

It hits 90psi right after 3k rpm then holds it to 8k.

 

what about between 8K-9K rpm? see if you can test the oil pressure on another Si with the stock oil pump.


if the pump is providing optimal pressure the way it is with the stock spring, then you should be fine i guess.


welcome to the "no balanced shafts" club :thumb:

 

Thanks, it seems to be a small club.

 

very small for the k20z3 crew

 

does anyone have a part number for the fd2 oil pump? was there a revision? because 11510-rrc-003 shows as discontinued

 

Check your PM.

 

Pm'd :wigglesmiley:

I mistyped - as the part number is 15100-rrc-003

 

lol I am not going crazy...

last year when building a world challenge 4dr si we purchased 15100-rrc-003 (or 000? not 100% sure) it was a complete "oil pump assembly" which included the spring & piston.

all HMO has for sale is "oil pump body" 15110-rrc-003 which does NOT include the spring & piston & you need to use rsx-s ones

 

^^

on the oil pump.

 

On the k20a2 pump ? I don't see any place for one of those, J don't have one either :/

 

15110-RRC-003 is listed as the pump body. What's the difference between the body and the pump assembly? And with 15100-PRB-A01 do I still need the relief valve spring?