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I’ve got an 2006 si I bought in 2012 with 95k and now 175,000 miles on it and I’ve got a cracked block. It’s kindve a long story. I overheated one day and had to get my head gasket replaced. After that I did notice i could smell coolant. Then I got into a wreck and took it back to the same shop for suspension work and vtec wasn’t working, and I asked about the coolant leak and they couldn’t find it or so they said then my buddy took 8 months to fix it. I got it back and drive it a couple months and dropped it back off again to same shop and they did a pressure test and found the crack. If I would’ve known about the crack I don’t think I would’ve fixed it after the wreck. Now I’m just sad. It looks great but it has a crack. Maybe I can throw a k20A3 in it and be done?
 

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Guys holy ****...I kno a lot of you are misinformed but please look around, you can buy k series engines for dirt cheap look and see which engine will bolt up to you car and buy a used one when you get the new engine in keep the oil changed and u won’t have a cracking issue
Not sure about k series but wondering why people out of warranty skip the dealer ships and buy a R18 block. My co worker know a place install engine in a Acura that runs smooth now. I remember first hearing this was around 4 grand and now people talking 6500. Really hope my 06 never has this issue. It’s at 122k now.
 

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I wonder how many of these cars are dealer serviced before the engine cracks. Sounds like most ppl are keeping up on maintenance.

About the extended warranty, it doesn't make cent$ to replace an engine in a 15-20 year old car. Who knows if or when the engine will crack. I could buy a used civic then get a brand new engine just because. There has to be some common factor that happens around 100k miles.

p.s. I researched this issue before I purchased my high mileage car
 

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Just bought a 2006 R18, and only now found out about the engine block issues.

Is there any hard data that shows the block WILL crack? What are the numbers on honda replacing blocks in the 2006-2009 vs unit sales?

Im so ******* mad right now. This is my first honda and it seems I've picked the wrong one.
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry if this isn’t the right area to post but I am too grief stricken with the repair cost of 4.5k. I would like to start a thread to so we can document how many other people's engine blocks are cracking after the 10 year warranty expiration. I just had mine crack (after 102k) last week and brought it in. I am 2 months out of the warranty coverage.

I did a bit of research and saw that the engine normally fails at around 90k-110k miles.

Since there are people out there who dont drive more than 8k miles a year it would take about 11.25 years on average for their engine to fail.

I want to know from other owners do they think it is possible to get a class action put together to cover this issue indefinitely because 100k and buy a new engine is a bit ridiculous.

Again sorry if it isnt the right area maybe a moderator can help me. Again this is a 2.5k-4.5k issue. I feel that it should be addressed by the community.
My 2006 Honda Civic was diagnosed with a Cracked Engine Block at 152,350 miles. I did not receive a Recall Notice from Honda in 2010 when they allegedly sent out notices. When I called Honda of America, all they did was talk in circles and loopholes to get out of helping with this problem. This problem was diagnosed by 2 mechanics. The Honda people said it was not official since it was not diagnosed by a "Certified Honda Mechanic." There is no Honda Dealer in the town I live in.

I was told there was one 19.5 miles away. I was not going to drive a car that far with a cracked block. I am not impressed or pleased with Honda at this time.
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry if this isn’t the right area to post but I am too grief stricken with the repair cost of 4.5k. I would like to start a thread to so we can document how many other people's engine blocks are cracking after the 10 year warranty expiration. I just had mine crack (after 102k) last week and brought it in. I am 2 months out of the warranty coverage.

I did a bit of research and saw that the engine normally fails at around 90k-110k miles.

Since there are people out there who dont drive more than 8k miles a year it would take about 11.25 years on average for their engine to fail.

I want to know from other owners do they think it is possible to get a class action put together to cover this issue indefinitely because 100k and buy a new engine is a bit ridiculous.

Again sorry if it isnt the right area maybe a moderator can help me. Again this is a 2.5k-4.5k issue. I feel that it should be addressed by the community.
so we have just found out that our block is cracked and it is 9k to replace the block, the car isnt even worth that in KBB we have 115k mileage and my girlfriend litterly drives like a turtle I can not see how this can be just rediculouse. Please lets sue the sh** out of Honda
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry if this isn’t the right area to post but I am too grief stricken with the repair cost of 4.5k. I would like to start a thread to so we can document how many other people's engine blocks are cracking after the 10 year warranty expiration. I just had mine crack (after 102k) last week and brought it in. I am 2 months out of the warranty coverage.

I did a bit of research and saw that the engine normally fails at around 90k-110k miles.

Since there are people out there who dont drive more than 8k miles a year it would take about 11.25 years on average for their engine to fail.

I want to know from other owners do they think it is possible to get a class action put together to cover this issue indefinitely because 100k and buy a new engine is a bit ridiculous.

Again sorry if it isnt the right area maybe a moderator can help me. Again this is a 2.5k-4.5k issue. I feel that it should be addressed by the community.
Hi, I have a 2006 civic with 140,000 miles and It just started to leak after 13 years. i brought it in and they confirmed that its a cracked engine block. I'm not sure if they will fix it. My case went in for review. I should hear from them tomorrow. If they don't fix it I would love to join in on a class action law suit.
 

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Hi, I have a 2006 civic with 140,000 miles and It just started to leak after 13 years. i brought it in and they confirmed that its a cracked engine block. I'm not sure if they will fix it. My case went in for review. I should hear from them tomorrow. If they don't fix it I would love to join in on a class action law suit.
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry if this isn’t the right area to post but I am too grief stricken with the repair cost of 4.5k. I would like to start a thread to so we can document how many other people's engine blocks are cracking after the 10 year warranty expiration. I just had mine crack (after 102k) last week and brought it in. I am 2 months out of the warranty coverage.

I did a bit of research and saw that the engine normally fails at around 90k-110k miles.

Since there are people out there who dont drive more than 8k miles a year it would take about 11.25 years on average for their engine to fail.

I want to know from other owners do they think it is possible to get a class action put together to cover this issue indefinitely because 100k and buy a new engine is a bit ridiculous.

Again sorry if it isnt the right area maybe a moderator can help me. Again this is a 2.5k-4.5k issue. I feel that it should be addressed by the community.
I am from Canada and my wife and I own a 2008 Honda Civic. We are both in our seventies, retired and live on small pensions. When we bought our 2018 Honda Civic in 2012 with only 32,000 kms (18000 miles), we figured that it would be the last car that we would have to buy since we only put on 10,000 kms (6000 miles) a year. It now has 113,000 kms (67,800 miles). Ten days ago we found out it had a cracked block. We immediately went to a Honda dealership and they suggested that we call Honda's main office here in Canada. I talked to the girl and explained our problem and she could care less. She said the recall ended in 2016. It's hard to believe that Honda won't do anything to help us. We tell everybody we know not to buy a Honda. If we all do this, maybe it will affect Honda sales. Maybe, maybe not, but it's worth a try.
 

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I am from Canada and my wife and I own a 2008 Honda Civic. We are both in our seventies, retired and live on small pensions. When we bought our 2018 Honda Civic in 2012 with only 32,000 kms (18000 miles), we figured that it would be the last car that we would have to buy since we only put on 10,000 kms (6000 miles) a year. It now has 113,000 kms (67,800 miles). Ten days ago we found out it had a cracked block. We immediately went to a Honda dealership and they suggested that we call Honda's main office here in Canada. I talked to the girl and explained our problem and she could care less. She said the recall ended in 2016. It's hard to believe that Honda won't do anything to help us. We tell everybody we know not to buy a Honda. If we all do this, maybe it will affect Honda sales. Maybe, maybe not, but it's worth a try.
Cracked block just happened a week ago on my 2008 Civic at 94,000 miles. Coolant dripping out of car but fortunately engine didn't overheat. The hairline crack is on the block right behind the alternator. We had to use pressure to find the location of the crack. I called Honda NA and the customer service rep was very nice. She told me my car was out of warranty, but I could file a claim which would require that I take my car to a Honda dealership for a diagnosis which would cost around $150. She told me not to expect much as far as financial help from Honda because the car is out of warranty and said she is trying to set my expectations because many people pay for the diagnosis and then are told by Honda they will not cover repair costs and then the customers get angry with her and feel like she jerked them around. When I asked - she told me that Honda still receives many calls from Civic owners about the cracked engine block.
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry if this isn’t the right area to post but I am too grief stricken with the repair cost of 4.5k. I would like to start a thread to so we can document how many other people's engine blocks are cracking after the 10 year warranty expiration. I just had mine crack (after 102k) last week and brought it in. I am 2 months out of the warranty coverage.

I did a bit of research and saw that the engine normally fails at around 90k-110k miles.

Since there are people out there who dont drive more than 8k miles a year it would take about 11.25 years on average for their engine to fail.

I want to know from other owners do they think it is possible to get a class action put together to cover this issue indefinitely because 100k and buy a new engine is a bit ridiculous.

Again sorry if it isnt the right area maybe a moderator can help me. Again this is a 2.5k-4.5k issue. I feel that it should be addressed by the community.
Felt like posting here, since it's one of the last times I'd probably discuss it. 2007 FA5 Fiji Blue, but I suppose I was lucky and really kept up the maintenance; had 300239 miles on the car, and had the block crack on the way to work. 11 years of driving that car, and the KBB value was fractional compared to buying a replacement Si block and to get it installed at Mandalay Auto Repair--even with Wilbur handling the install personally, 6-7K would be a nice down on a new car. Still find it disappointing that it's a actual admitted error in the casting, but Honda is lawyered up so there wouldn't be a remedy for me.

Anyway, whatever value that could be gotten from the car, I donated it to a charity, and will write off any value on my taxes. Caveat emptor. If I had known this issue before I bought it--it was new at 22 miles, I definitely would have looked elsewhere, regardless of what I got out of the car.
 

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Hey guys,

Sorry if this isn’t the right area to post but I am too grief stricken with the repair cost of 4.5k. I would like to start a thread to so we can document how many other people's engine blocks are cracking after the 10 year warranty expiration. I just had mine crack (after 102k) last week and brought it in. I am 2 months out of the warranty coverage.

I did a bit of research and saw that the engine normally fails at around 90k-110k miles.

Since there are people out there who dont drive more than 8k miles a year it would take about 11.25 years on average for their engine to fail.

I want to know from other owners do they think it is possible to get a class action put together to cover this issue indefinitely because 100k and buy a new engine is a bit ridiculous.

Again sorry if it isnt the right area maybe a moderator can help me. Again this is a 2.5k-4.5k issue. I feel that it should be addressed by the community.


Hi guys,
The engine block on my 2008 civic just cracked. I'm at 183k miles and she has been taken care of perfectly since it was brand new. I have been putting up a fight with Honda to have them cover the cost of this. They know it is their fault, the placed the warranty for a reason, but I have been getting no where. They told me if I wanted to open a case with them I had to have the car diagnosed from a Honda dealership... so now I have to pay $200 to honda to tell me what I already knew was wrong with it. I know it is a year after the extension but ??? looks very poor on their behalf.
Did anyone end up having any luck? If so any advise? and if not, what did you guys do with your cars? How much do you think I could get for it?
 

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Really sucks to hear folks having a cracked block. I'm not defending Honda, but they did extend the warranty to 10 years and unlimited mileage. Being 2019, the last batch of 2009 Civics are being (should be) worked on. If you car is 2008 or older, you are out of luck. However, the bright side is that this block isn't affected after the 2010 model year, meaning you can get an engine at a yard (low mileage hopefully), a 2010 engine and have it installed for cheap. All engines (R18) from 06-11 are compatible supposedly. I live in PA and can (in theory) buy an engine for about $2-3K and have it installed for about half that. So, $3-4K for a trouble free car isn't too bad. Having this done through the dealership is insane. We all know how much they charge (gouge) customers, so forget that idea. I've managed to get 278,000 miles out of mine so far. The car is in very good shape, I'm actually entertaining the idea of just replacing the engine as mentioned keep driving it if the block starts to leak. I figure, I got about 300K out of mine, I'll be happy with that.

I wish everyone luck on this.

Here is a link with info on the recall

 

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I thought I'd chime in on this one.

There is a "fix" for this problem, for those with some mechanical skills or a friend so inclined.

Disclaimer, I'm not a professional mechanic, just a knowledgeable amateur. I have rebuilt engines myself (they run fine), and I do all my own work on older cars (2004 or so).

I just bought a 2006 Civic from a friend (long, long time friend) - precisely because she learned about the cracked block issue and stopped trusting the car, after 130K miles and 13 years. I'm going in with eyes open.

First, a clear understanding of the problem. A crack sounds awful, even frightening. It impacts around 1% of the casts from 2006 through late 2008. Chances are most Civics won't have the problem.

If you have any R18 engine, though, you should approach the issue of driving this older car (any older car, really) with diligence and...well, not exactly suspicion but extremely watchful eyes. If that's not a style you can handle, you are probably going to find driving an older car disconcerting.

The crack in the civic always occurs in 1 (or 2, or all of) 4 places. It doesn't impact the geometry of the engine. Nothing is going to fall apart. Just about everyone who discovered a crack probably had it for weeks before they realized it. The issue is that it leaks coolant, and cooling an aluminum engine is absolutely paramount.

At first you'll see no symptom. The cooling system operates normally. The "trick" is the position of the water pump. It is around 1/3 to half way down from the very top of the cooling system (which is at the radiator cap). As long as the coolant is above the water pump, you won't notice any problem, but that is the problem. The moment the coolant drops below the level of the top of the water pump, it can't move fluid. By then, too, the water isn't filling the cylinder head (the top 1/3 of the engine, approximately). Moments, maybe a few minutes later, the engine overheats very rapidly, and is destroyed.

Honda replaced engines, probably as a public relations decision as much as a genuine repair. It sounds wonderful to get a new engine. They were replacing the R18 with a newer design that doesn't crack.

To ensure your engine lasts, you must watch. Every day, whether it is 10 miles or 50 miles, whenever the engine cools after being used, check the coolant level. Do this the way they tell you not to, thinking more like a mechanic than a consumer. Make certain the engine has cooled, then open the radiator cap. Look to see fluid is right at the top. It should be the same level every time you check. If it is, you're good. Add an ounce or two (keep some handy) so the fluid is flush with the lip of the opening, the re-apply the cap (so you don't put air into the system). Don't open the radiator when it's hot - the fluid is under some pressure, and is over 160 F.

The fluid should always be at the top. If it isn't, there is a problem. A new Civic is designed to run with the same fluid put in at manufacture for 100K miles. It is supposed to be a sealed system. This is why they tell you never to open the radiator cap. Now that is older, though, you must know if the fluid level is dropping. There's no meter or gauge. You can't tell by looking into the reserve bottle. You must look into the radiator, because now that it is older and you suspect a leak or crack could appear, you must check.

If the level drops, before you assume a leak, check the reserve bottle. The system is supposed to push fluid into the reserve bottle when heat expands the coolant (to avoid over-pressure). When the system cools, it creates a slight vacuum which draws fluid from the reserve bottle back into the cooling system. If you let the reserve bottle run dry that will draw air into the system. There should always be a little fluid in the reserve bottle on a cold engine, but not much.

Otherwise, you have to check for leaks (and, of course, that crack). I won't detail how one pressurizes a cooling system to check for leaks. You'll find such tutorials all over the web. Use that method to find where a leak is happening. It could be a hose, but check the 4 places known for the crack to see if you have it. Two are on the front, facing you as you stand in front of the car, and are known to be the most common places. The other two are on the side of the engine facing the cab and are much harder to see, but you have to check. Find the leak before driving the car.

If you find there is a crack, you can fix it as long as you've been diligent so that coolant was never lost to the point the engine overheated. If the engine overheated, the block is likely warped and there's no chance to repair that. This fix applies if you've been diligent, caught the crack early, kept fluid in the car, and once you know you have a crack you stopped driving the car.

There are videos detailing how to repair cracks. Many (maybe most) are genuinely real tutorials - some are, like me, from amateurs (or even less) who may not have genuine expertise, but learned of this like you are now reading here.

To repair the crack (and according to the various online videos for any engine/crack), remove whatever components are in the way (likely the exhaust manifold, some wires and/or hoses - depending on the location, maybe even the intake manifold for those on the rear).

Use a Dremel (or similar rotary tool) with a grinding tool (I've used the green stone tool with good results). Some only "clean" the area, but I follow the wisdom of "digging a canal" into the crack. I like about 1/8th inch or more, digging a "trench" over where the crack appeared. At the ends of the crack, I carve out a margin of material beyond the crack, and dig in a little deeper. These "ends" of the canal stop the crack from spreading (when it is sealed). I've gone so far as to dig all the way into the water jacket, but that's not required. Some only bother with the surface, just roughing it up, but you are going to seal this crack, and the idea of digging a canal is in line with similar repairs on cracks in cylinder heads.

Some mechanics will weld in new aluminum with brazing rods. If you're a welder, have at it. It isn't required, but that's a fine, well tested way of sealing such a crack.

I don't, and it isn't necessary. I use a "cold weld" approach, using JB Weld or any number of similar products. These are "epoxy" compounds with metal particles. They bond so well that it is actually stronger than the block's metal. A version of this "epoxy" is used to "glue" wings to aircraft. The bond is so strong the metal will break before the JB Weld does. It works to about 500 F or higher, but your engine should never get above 225 F (or it's ruined).

I uses the "standard" or "quick" version in the tube. There is a version (quick steel) that is like modeling clay, which I've used in other contexts, but the "standard" and "quick" versions are like a thick syrup, and can be painted in place with a cheap paint brush (the small ones, for kids - $1 for 8 of them). The brush is trash afterwards. You have about 5 minutes or so once the two compounds are mixed. I often need to use a second and third "coat" to fill in the canal, and I generously "paint" the compound all around the area to "latch" onto the block's surface.

That will seal the water jacket and stop the crack from expanding. If you get one crack, it is hard to say you won't have another in one of the other 3 locations, but the crack repaired in this fashion is not likely to be an issue ongoing.

Then, re-fill the system (watch tutorials - there's a technique to get out all the bubbles) with coolant, and drive on.

Keep watch. I'd guess you can only "let go" of such diligence if you found and repaired all 4 known crack locations on an R18 engine - but then, there are hoses and other seals that can let go, too - including the water pump itself. Never let coolant drop a couple of ounces without checking into why. That is the only warning you can have before overheating, though you might catch the scent of coolant dripping onto a hot engine if the wind doesn't carry it away before you notice.

I run this "new" 2006 Civic with green dye in the coolant. I'll see it on the block when I check daily.

Then, too, before I put this "new" (old) Civic on the road, I put in a new timing chain, water pump, all the hoses, the main belt, the spark plugs, the oil.....
 
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