I'm looking to upgrade my sway bar this spring.
Was curious at what are some of the favorites setups for the FA5...
Was curious at what are some of the favorites setups for the FA5...
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Wow thank you for the great feedback! I will definitely look into the Eibach and possibly the Progress as well. I have an Si and already have Skunk2 Pro S2 coilovers as well as some nice sticky rubber, so the car is already stiff and handles very well. I am just looking for that modification that will improve it even more because I autocross my car and handling is very important when it comes to that. Thanks again!Canucklehead64,
I have the Eibach front and rear set on my 2008 Exl Sedan and I absolutely love the handling of it.HUGE improvement. If you have a Si Civic, you will feel also an improvement but probably not as much. You may want to upgrade to the 22mm Progress rear bar. Some would say that the Eibach 30mm front bar causes more understeer but I feel that the back (19mm) and front bar work better together as a pair rather than just upgrading the rear sway bar. The front sway bar certainly gives a very stable, sharp, and quicker turn in feeling when taking corners. Overall the car is much more stable even from high speed or fairly speedy driving during regular or windy conditions: e.g. car moves less, has less sway, and feels more stable and solid. Eventually a firmer suspension will be a further enhancement to the car's handling as you'll notice that the stock suspension actually feels pretty weak with bobbing up and down motion but the "lateral" side to side motion is clearly enhanced by the Eibach sway bar set. It will probably wear your tires down faster because now there is more traction to ground from tires and it's fun to drive :wink: BUT do careful from the weak non-sticky stock tires if you are still running them
As quoted from duthehustle93 to be prepared to have oversteer and "spin out with the 24mm", I would concur with his assessment. Even with only the 22mm Progress rear sway bar upgrade, it still warrants caution for spin out with oversteer especially if you have low tread or not very sticky tires. Spin out meaning that you're rear end will spin out and you're car can turn 180 degrees around. Unfortunately I've experienced this once with a different vehicle with upgraded sway bars , a very firm suspension, and low tread sport tires around a sharp exit turn on the highway and I have to say it's one of the most scariest things that can happen. Luckily no one was hurt and I didn't hit any cars but my car was wrecked as it hit the curb and embankment.
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Canucklehead64,
(Was out of town for a bit and internet wasn't that readily available to post)
If you have a Civic Si, you'll most likely want to go for the Progress 22mm rear sway bar. If memory serves me right, stock rear sway bar on Civic Si is 17mm rear so you'll not feel as much difference to upgrading to a 19mm Eibach sway bar. You can try Progress 22mm rear sway bar first and can also look into upgrading the front to a 30mm Eibach sway bar also (they sell rear and front separately also). Start with just the rear Progress sway bar first.
CAUTION: if you already didn't see it in the threads, the civic's lower control arm brackets (where sway bar links attach to) can tear if you don't have reinforcement brackets, such as Progress reinforcement brackets. It's been discussed in this forum already and better safe than sorry to have to deal with welding stuff later on. I just made my own reinforcement plates but it may be more convenient to just buy them precut and shaped. Not everyone has had this problem but it's something to be aware of.
Good luck, have fun and drive safe
(Was out of town for a bit and internet wasn't that readily available to post)
If you have a Civic Si, you'll most likely want to go for the Progress 22mm rear sway bar. If memory serves me right, stock rear sway bar on Civic Si is 17mm rear so you'll not feel as much difference to upgrading to a 19mm Eibach sway bar. You can try Progress 22mm rear sway bar first and can also look into upgrading the front to a 30mm Eibach sway bar also (they sell rear and front separately also). Start with just the rear Progress sway bar first.
CAUTION: if you already didn't see it in the threads, the civic's lower control arm brackets (where sway bar links attach to) can tear if you don't have reinforcement brackets, such as Progress reinforcement brackets. It's been discussed in this forum already and better safe than sorry to have to deal with welding stuff later on. I just made my own reinforcement plates but it may be more convenient to just buy them precut and shaped. Not everyone has had this problem but it's something to be aware of.
Good luck, have fun and drive safe
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Just to confirm the Si has 17mm solid rear, 28mm solid front. The 22mm solid on an Si can still cause oversteer but it's deal-able or if you know what your doing completely avoidable. I have a blox 21mm on my fg2 and it's very neutral but will still oversteer a tad if I'm an idiot.
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I bought the Progress Rear Sway Bar. Probably 22mm because I don't remember there being two options...idk
But I love the way the car handled after it. It really stiffened up the rear end, which made the car slightly more prone to oversteer, but also more fun to drive and dramatically reduced body roll :thumb:
But I love the way the car handled after it. It really stiffened up the rear end, which made the car slightly more prone to oversteer, but also more fun to drive and dramatically reduced body roll :thumb:
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22mm bar is best for street. 19mm rear bar is a waste of money I think. 24mm is for track. If you buy the 24mm bar and kill someone on the street, you are being stupid.
The 24mm rear bar is the first mod I put on my new-to-me 07 Civic DX Coupe; and it's also my daily driver. But I'm 45 and smart behind the wheel. I can kick the back of the car out almost at will. Requires a different driving style than stock. The stock car is very good at 9/10ths but becomes a pig at 10/10ths. You really have to throw it around to get it to run fast at the limit. But with the big rear bar on it, it's more of a slow-in, fast-out setup and much faster. So, be smart entering corners and you will be rewarded.... but if you are stupid, go into the corner a little fast, and god forbid have to lift, you will get spanked HARD! Not the good kind of spank either.
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The 24mm rear bar is the first mod I put on my new-to-me 07 Civic DX Coupe; and it's also my daily driver. But I'm 45 and smart behind the wheel. I can kick the back of the car out almost at will. Requires a different driving style than stock. The stock car is very good at 9/10ths but becomes a pig at 10/10ths. You really have to throw it around to get it to run fast at the limit. But with the big rear bar on it, it's more of a slow-in, fast-out setup and much faster. So, be smart entering corners and you will be rewarded.... but if you are stupid, go into the corner a little fast, and god forbid have to lift, you will get spanked HARD! Not the good kind of spank either.
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Would you guys recommend a first time suspension modifier to start with a 22mm or would the prices 24mm adjustable be okay for a first timer? I can always adapt to a driving style when necessary.
What's the difference in control/handling of the different adjustability levels in reference to a 24mm bar that's non adjustable? What does each level of adjustability provide is what I mean.
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What's the difference in control/handling of the different adjustability levels in reference to a 24mm bar that's non adjustable? What does each level of adjustability provide is what I mean.
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right.... if you don't know for sure which one you want, then you should use the 22mm one. It's already aggressive for the street compared to the 19mm Eibach one.
Leave the 24mm ones to the track or for people who know enough about this to make an informed decision on their own. I would never tell a first time suspension modder to run a 24mm rear bar.... that should answer your question.
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Leave the 24mm ones to the track or for people who know enough about this to make an informed decision on their own. I would never tell a first time suspension modder to run a 24mm rear bar.... that should answer your question.
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Installed my 22mm Progress RSB and I am blown away with the results. Thanks for the suggestions guys. The car corners very flat now along with my skunk2 pros2 coils and -1 camber set up and I have almost no body roll. I can't believe what a difference this upgrade has made and it should be fun taking it out to the autocross event and pushing it to the limit soon!
I second this. I'm running the 24mm bar with the koni/neuspeed setup and it is definitely aggressive. Took a few autocross weekends to get confident attacking off ramps. That being said i've spun the car one or twice at the autocross getting the hang of it all.
Its a fast setup, you just need to respect it.
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haha... a good suspension setup is one that makes you say "holy **** woooooohhhoooooooo" in the middle of the turn..... hahah..... so much fun!
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So if the 19 mm is a waste then is the 9th gens sway a waste too to put on a fa5?
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For the price, the 19mm Eibach rear sway bar isn't worth it. The 20mm 2013 Si rear sway bar is the best bang for the buck since it only costs about $50. And keep in mind, The cross sectional area matters, not overall diameter...
19mm = 1133mm^2
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20mm = 1256mm^2
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22mm = 1519mm^2
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24mm = 1808mm^2
19mm = 1133mm^2
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20mm = 1256mm^2
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22mm = 1519mm^2
vs
24mm = 1808mm^2
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