has anyone been pulled over for having a "modified exhaust"......cuz i got pulled over last night and i live in tampa,fl n the cop told me its illegal to modify your exhaust in tha state of florida....so he gave me a 76 dollar ticket....wat do u guys think i should do go to court with it or pay tha ticket...let me kno.....
8thex
take it to court tell em your stock exhaust got ripped off, so you replaced it with a better one thats carb legal, and db legal, the cop probly wont show anyway
This seems to be the best choice among the rest of the responses. The stock exhaust alone looks pretty modified. +1 repbioevolve said:
thats from their websight:
Question: Are MagnaFlow Performance Exhaust systems legal?
Answer: YES, all of our Cat-Back Exhaust Systems comply with most state and federal laws with the exception of the Magnapacks. (Please note, local laws may vary. Contact your local law enforcement for specific guidelines.) Our products are designed and tested to meet legal sound level limits; however, when used in conjunction with other products (such as air intake systems or exhaust headers), the overall combined effect might cause particular vehicles to exceed the allowable limits.
A new law (27150.2 VC) does not require police to use a sound meter to test for excessive noise. A citation is now based upon the officers judgment. Cited violators may have testing done at a smog referee station.
If you didn't find the answers you needed on this page, please send your questions to us at: muffler@magnaflow.com, or call our Tech Line @ (800) 817-3930 and one of our MagnaFlow tech staff will help you.
Question: Are MagnaFlow Performance Exhaust systems legal?
Answer: YES, all of our Cat-Back Exhaust Systems comply with most state and federal laws with the exception of the Magnapacks. (Please note, local laws may vary. Contact your local law enforcement for specific guidelines.) Our products are designed and tested to meet legal sound level limits; however, when used in conjunction with other products (such as air intake systems or exhaust headers), the overall combined effect might cause particular vehicles to exceed the allowable limits.
A new law (27150.2 VC) does not require police to use a sound meter to test for excessive noise. A citation is now based upon the officers judgment. Cited violators may have testing done at a smog referee station.
If you didn't find the answers you needed on this page, please send your questions to us at: muffler@magnaflow.com, or call our Tech Line @ (800) 817-3930 and one of our MagnaFlow tech staff will help you.
Hope this helps, cuz I don't know if it will help:
The 2006 Florida Statutes
Title XXIII
MOTOR VEHICLES Chapter 316
STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL View Entire Chapter
316.293 Motor vehicle noise.--
(1) DEFINITIONS.--The following words and phrases, when used in this section, shall have the meanings respectively assigned to them in this subsection, except where the context otherwise requires:
(a) "dB A" means the composite abbreviation for the A-weighted sound level and the unit of sound level, the decibel.
(b) "Gross combination weight rating" or "GCWR" means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a combination vehicle.
(c) "Gross vehicle weight rating" or "GVWR" means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a single vehicle.
(d) "Sound level" means the A-weighted sound pressure level measured with fast response using an instrument complying with the specification for sound level meters of the American National Standards Institute, Inc., or its successor bodies, except that only A-weighting and fast dynamic response need be provided.
(e) "Department" means the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.
(2) OPERATING NOISE LIMITS.--No person shall operate or be permitted to operate a vehicle at any time or under any condition of roadway grade, load, acceleration, or deceleration in such a manner as to generate a sound level in excess of the following limit for the category of motor vehicle and applicable speed limit at a distance of 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel under measurement procedures established under subsection (3).
(a) For motorcycles other than motor-driven cycles: Sound level limit
Speed limit
35 mph or less Speed limit
over 35 mph
Before January 1, 1979 82 dB A 86 dB A
On or after January 1, 1979 78 dB A 82 dB A
(b) For any motor vehicle with a GVWR or GCWR of 10,000 pounds or more: Sound level limit
Speed limit
35 mph or less Speed limit
over 35 mph
On or after January 1, 1975 86 dB A 90 dB A
(c) For motor-driven cycles and any other motor vehicle not included in paragraph (a) or paragraph (b): Sound level limit
Speed limit
35 mph or less Speed limit
over 35 mph
Before January 1, 1979 76 dB A 82 dB A
On or after January 1, 1979 72 dB A 79 dB A
(3) MEASUREMENT PROCEDURES.--The measurement procedures for determining compliance with this section shall be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s. 403.415(9), in cooperation with the department. Such regulations shall include the selection of measurement sites and measurement procedures and shall take into consideration accepted scientific and professional methods for the measurement of vehicular sound levels. The measurement procedures may include adjustment factors to be applied to the noise limit for measurement distances of other than 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel.
(4) APPLICABILITY.--This section applies to the total noise from a vehicle and shall not be construed as limiting or precluding the enforcement of any other provisions of this chapter relating to motor vehicle mufflers for noise control.
(5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.--
(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified.
(6) EXEMPT VEHICLES.--The following are exempt from the operation of this act:
(a) Emergency vehicles operating as specified in s. 316.072(5)(a).
(b) Any motor vehicle engaged in a professional or amateur sanctioned, competitive sports event for which admission or entry fee is charged, or practice or time trials for such event.
(c) Any motor vehicle engaged in a manufacturer's engineering, design, or equipment test.
(d) Construction or agricultural equipment either on a job site or traveling on the highways.
(7) VIOLATIONS.--A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.
History.--s. 4, ch. 74-110; s. 32, ch. 76-31; s. 2, ch. 78-280; s. 28, ch. 79-65; s. 136, ch. 94-356; s. 16, ch. 97-300; s. 205, ch. 99-248.
The 2006 Florida Statutes
Title XXIII
MOTOR VEHICLES Chapter 316
STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL View Entire Chapter
316.293 Motor vehicle noise.--
(1) DEFINITIONS.--The following words and phrases, when used in this section, shall have the meanings respectively assigned to them in this subsection, except where the context otherwise requires:
(a) "dB A" means the composite abbreviation for the A-weighted sound level and the unit of sound level, the decibel.
(b) "Gross combination weight rating" or "GCWR" means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a combination vehicle.
(c) "Gross vehicle weight rating" or "GVWR" means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a single vehicle.
(d) "Sound level" means the A-weighted sound pressure level measured with fast response using an instrument complying with the specification for sound level meters of the American National Standards Institute, Inc., or its successor bodies, except that only A-weighting and fast dynamic response need be provided.
(e) "Department" means the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.
(2) OPERATING NOISE LIMITS.--No person shall operate or be permitted to operate a vehicle at any time or under any condition of roadway grade, load, acceleration, or deceleration in such a manner as to generate a sound level in excess of the following limit for the category of motor vehicle and applicable speed limit at a distance of 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel under measurement procedures established under subsection (3).
(a) For motorcycles other than motor-driven cycles: Sound level limit
Speed limit
35 mph or less Speed limit
over 35 mph
Before January 1, 1979 82 dB A 86 dB A
On or after January 1, 1979 78 dB A 82 dB A
(b) For any motor vehicle with a GVWR or GCWR of 10,000 pounds or more: Sound level limit
Speed limit
35 mph or less Speed limit
over 35 mph
On or after January 1, 1975 86 dB A 90 dB A
(c) For motor-driven cycles and any other motor vehicle not included in paragraph (a) or paragraph (b): Sound level limit
Speed limit
35 mph or less Speed limit
over 35 mph
Before January 1, 1979 76 dB A 82 dB A
On or after January 1, 1979 72 dB A 79 dB A
(3) MEASUREMENT PROCEDURES.--The measurement procedures for determining compliance with this section shall be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s. 403.415(9), in cooperation with the department. Such regulations shall include the selection of measurement sites and measurement procedures and shall take into consideration accepted scientific and professional methods for the measurement of vehicular sound levels. The measurement procedures may include adjustment factors to be applied to the noise limit for measurement distances of other than 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel.
(4) APPLICABILITY.--This section applies to the total noise from a vehicle and shall not be construed as limiting or precluding the enforcement of any other provisions of this chapter relating to motor vehicle mufflers for noise control.
(5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.--
(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified.
(6) EXEMPT VEHICLES.--The following are exempt from the operation of this act:
(a) Emergency vehicles operating as specified in s. 316.072(5)(a).
(b) Any motor vehicle engaged in a professional or amateur sanctioned, competitive sports event for which admission or entry fee is charged, or practice or time trials for such event.
(c) Any motor vehicle engaged in a manufacturer's engineering, design, or equipment test.
(d) Construction or agricultural equipment either on a job site or traveling on the highways.
(7) VIOLATIONS.--A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.
History.--s. 4, ch. 74-110; s. 32, ch. 76-31; s. 2, ch. 78-280; s. 28, ch. 79-65; s. 136, ch. 94-356; s. 16, ch. 97-300; s. 205, ch. 99-248.
8thex said:
there's a saying.. money talks and bullsh** walks... anyone who wants to make a dollar will sell whatever they want.. to who ever they want, where ever they want.. they're not responsible for what happens after you buy it as far as law enforcement goes.. if its illegal, and you tell them its illegal in your state, they'll probably just say that's your responsibility as a citizen in the state in which you live..
Im guessing that the state of Florida may have a law worded like NY's. It is illegal to have a Modified exhaust here in NY. What falls under that category? Basically anything that is not completely OEM. The companies can say they are 50 state legal blah blah blah........these companies cannot control what each municipality in the USA has for a set of laws regarding vehicles
See heres what I was talking about:
(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
So basically the DB level does not matter since it is clearly stated anything louder than what originally came on the vehicle is illegal.
See heres what I was talking about:
(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
So basically the DB level does not matter since it is clearly stated anything louder than what originally came on the vehicle is illegal.
This is why I will not be selling my stock exhaust.....case closed first problem I have with my Geady Ti-C and it's gone!
I have a personal major beef with noise ordinance laws to begin with...simply because they are not enforced equally. Tell me that the aftermarket muffler you have on that Civic is louder than a Harley...and that Harley usually does not come that loud from the factory. Last thing I need at 11:00pm at night (even out partying) is to listen to some ball bag go open throttle his Harley so everyone can hear it and he can feel like a bad ass. Does [he get a ticket...no!
It's BS and until law enforcement starts treating noise ordinances equally we need to fight this crap in court. Do they pull over every fart bomb I hear going down the street...no. Do they pull over every ride that has the bass bumping...no. It's total and complete spur-of-the-moment do it cause I don't like it thing. He probably wouldn't pull the Harley over because he likes Harleys. It's BS.
Sorry...I know this is a rant but tell me I'm wrong...I am sick and tired of noise ordinances...when they get CONSISTENT about stopping EVERYONE that violates it...I can agree with them. Until then...I'll see you in court.
Sorry for your luck bro...but I'd be fighting that in court...and I live in Florida. I watch modified exhausts pass me all day long here in Palm Beach and I don't see them stopped. And if he doesn't plan to show...then again this is a stupid waste of YOUR time that's all he's accomplished here. If it truly is as stupid as he says...he could have given you a written warning and no harm-no foul. But no...he didn't do that did he? I smell a quota.
Ok...time for a cold shower....sorry all.
It's BS and until law enforcement starts treating noise ordinances equally we need to fight this crap in court. Do they pull over every fart bomb I hear going down the street...no. Do they pull over every ride that has the bass bumping...no. It's total and complete spur-of-the-moment do it cause I don't like it thing. He probably wouldn't pull the Harley over because he likes Harleys. It's BS.
Sorry...I know this is a rant but tell me I'm wrong...I am sick and tired of noise ordinances...when they get CONSISTENT about stopping EVERYONE that violates it...I can agree with them. Until then...I'll see you in court.
Sorry for your luck bro...but I'd be fighting that in court...and I live in Florida. I watch modified exhausts pass me all day long here in Palm Beach and I don't see them stopped. And if he doesn't plan to show...then again this is a stupid waste of YOUR time that's all he's accomplished here. If it truly is as stupid as he says...he could have given you a written warning and no harm-no foul. But no...he didn't do that did he? I smell a quota.
Ok...time for a cold shower....sorry all.
It was probably a young cop with a banana up his a$$ and a chip on his shoulder. Is that the only reason he pulled you over? In this state (Indiana) they can't pull you over for Exhaust or tint unless they have another reason. Like Speeding, running a light etc...8thex said:
Also I never heard that a factory manufactured Catback is illegal. Maybe if you modify your stock exhaust and it no longer meets the pollution or sound levels of that state than Yes I can see him giving you a ticket.
Did you explain that this was an exhaust system especially manufactured for your vehicle which meets all state laws? He probably thought you just popped in a muffler than some larger pipes and maybe even dropped the Cat. I mean the Magnaflow Catback isn't that loud is it?
I would fight it and bring in the receipt showing it is legal in all 50 states :thumb:
Real quick guys...we are getting a little too hung up on this 50 state legal thing. 50 state legal simply means it passes FEDERAL government NHTSA standards for being legal in all 50 states. As we all know California is the frontrunner on having stricter than federal pollution etc... standards.Tom1222 said:
Bottom line is this...YES it has passed NHTSA compliance and is legal to be sold in all 50 states by the federal government; however, state and local laws may be more strict or spell out certain laws at their respective level. Because it says 50 state legal does not mean it is legal in your neighborhood, county, city, or locality.
It is up to you to know what your local laws are - state and local. If you don't like the state and local laws...do what you should be doing already...GET OUT AND VOTE.
Ok off the soapbox...but seriously the exhaust could be illegal locally and may have been passed simply because some other ball bag decided they didn't like the sound...so they petitioned their councilperson and had a local law invoked that states thou shalt not have loud (modified) exhaust. And you are in turn screwed because his rights contradict yours and you didn't do anything about it. Unless you go to council meetings or watch that cable public access channel you wouldn't even know these forces are plotting against you.
Guess we all need to get more boring lives so we can attend council meetings and get more involved in government, right? Naw, I can't go without my ocho.
**ocho is a trademark of nomar06 and is used solely by implied permission.
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Figures...... out being punks trying out do each other in the most tickets....8thex said:
I've gotten more tickets from young cops then any other cop....:Mad:
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