[gregonweb]

You should be covered as you are under 10 years and I believe it is unlimited miles. If they do replace it for free that would be sweet since you have 339k miles! Let us know what they say.

Replaced - no questions asked. Very happy. I thought it was odd that they wouldn't reset the odometer, but whatever. I wrote it all down and have receipts... Doesn't matter because I'll be driving it to the day it gets junked.

 

[gregonweb]

Replaced - no questions asked. Very happy. I thought it was odd that they wouldn't reset the odometer, but whatever. I wrote it all down and have receipts... Doesn't matter because I'll be driving it to the day it gets junked.

FOLLOWUP: Driving to work today. Really the first day I've got it on the highway. Car jerks slightly, immediate loss of engine power. Check engine light blinking yellow. Haven't ever seen it blink before!! Ran the OBD check - P0300, P0302, P0303. Cylinders 2 and 3 are misfiring. Well, that explains the symptoms I was having! Back to Honda with the Civic. Update to come.

 

[CatParty]

Another Cracked Block Experience

Thank you for this community, otherwise I would be lost. I wanted to share my experience with the cracked engine block on a 2007 Honda Civic.

Two years ago my car started emitting a sweet smelling white smoke from the exhaust pipe. I took it to the dealer and they said it was all good.

Recently at 120,000 miles, the car's AC started blowing hot air, after a few more miles the temperature gauge was all the way up. I immediately pulled of to the side of the road and popped the hood. Sure enough it was cracked. I was towed 100 miles back home to the dealership and immediately claimed TSB 10-048.

This happened over the weekend so I had to wait until Monday to get a rental, which wasn't offered to me I had to request one at $35/day.

With the help from this forum, since they had the engine out, I had my clutch replaced. This included the friction disk, pressure plate, bushings, and bearings. This totaled $750, so I was up to $1050 already with the tow and $35/day more for 10 days.

I called Honda America and received a claim number. I'm still going to pursue the rest of the rental and tow costs to be covered.

I have not had good experienced with dealerships, but the service manager was easy to work with and I was nothing but on my best behavior. At first I wasn't getting much information from them and then near the end of the repair I was able to get discounts on the parts, labor, rental and tow. So what could've been a $1500 ordeal was about $700 with tax. Having not overheat the engine might have made a difference because I have a feeling they would've charged me for a new head.

Got a new engine and clutch for cheap, basically a brand new car. I can tell a big difference in the performance of the car already, no problems the first day back and there was no break in period for the new engine because apparently they're made differently now?

Maybe if your nice to the dealership staff but stand your ground and ask for as many discount as you can get it might work to your benefit. I know I tend to not want to deal with someone who complains or argues with me at my job. Your experience may differ.

 

[69cuda340s]

I just bought an '06 EX with Nav and was not aware of this defect until after I bought the car. The car was originally purchased April 2006 so it is out of the 10 year window. Car has 153k miles. After buying the car I was seeing coolant level drop from overflow tank 4 ounces a day after driving maybe 30 miles multiple short trips in 90 degree plus weather. No smell and no visible leaks when car up on my lift. Car runs excellent otherwise. I believe seller was a flipper even though CarFax says one owner car. I paid cash so I am stuck with it now. But I got it cheap. After google search I found this thread. Mine is cracked in the front driver side in the known defect location and seeps out. Going through my options and doing extensive research online I decide to put some K-seal in the radiator. Generally I am against additive band aide approaches. Anyway, after putting k-seal in it stopped losing coolant right way. For a few days afterwards some seepage could be seen around the crack. So I cleaned the block and now it appears dry. Coolant does not have a sludgy dirty look to it and engine runs nice and cool, heat still works etc. Hundreds of positive reviews online a lot of people have had good luck with this product but do your own research and don't add unless your coolant is nice and clean. Anyway I'll run it around a couple of weeks and flush it out. If it does not hold up then I will be swapping in a 2010 or 2011 used engine since repairing/restoring cars is my hobby and I have all the tools. The car is for my 16 year old son so we'll see how it goes.

 

[Azazel]

I just bought an '06 EX with Nav and was not aware of this defect until after I bought the car. The car was originally purchased April 2006 so it is out of the 10 year window. Car has 153k miles. After buying the car I was seeing coolant level drop from overflow tank 4 ounces a day after driving maybe 30 miles multiple short trips in 90 degree plus weather. No smell and no visible leaks when car up on my lift. Car runs excellent otherwise. I believe seller was a flipper even though CarFax says one owner car. I paid cash so I am stuck with it now. But I got it cheap. After google search I found this thread. Mine is cracked in the front driver side in the known defect location and seeps out. Going through my options and doing extensive research online I decide to put some K-seal in the radiator. Generally I am against additive band aide approaches. Anyway, after putting k-seal in it stopped losing coolant right way. For a few days afterwards some seepage could be seen around the crack. So I cleaned the block and now it appears dry. Coolant does not have a sludgy dirty look to it and engine runs nice and cool, heat still works etc. Hundreds of positive reviews online a lot of people have had good luck with this product but do your own research and don't add unless your coolant is nice and clean. Anyway I'll run it around a couple of weeks and flush it out. If it does not hold up then I will be swapping in a 2010 or 2011 used engine since repairing/restoring cars is my hobby and I have all the tools. The car is for my 16 year old son so we'll see how it goes.

Dang this sucks I feel your pain. If you get another engine make sure you get something above 08. Lkq seems to have a lot of good low mileage motors. As when I hit 200k miles I was planning on swapping in a low mileage engine.

 

[No longer honda]

I hate to necro an old thread. I also made a report to NHTSA. I suggest all do the same. Force Honda to do a recall.

The Blocks are still cracking. Honda is still doing what it takes to avoid repairs. My local dealership Leith Honda of Raleigh is conspiring.



"2006 Honda Civic “Engine Block Crack”

Technical Service Bulletin 10-048: The problem: The engine block may leak coolant, resulting in engine overheating.

Corrective action: Dealers will replace the engine block free of charge.
Warranty info: Repairs will be done under an extended warranty (10 years from the original date of purchase, no mileage limits).

My 2006 Honda Civic was purchased August 14, 2006.

On the date of August 12, 2016 (Friday) at or around 5:40 pm EST. the vehicle broke down in motion and was unable to drive due to something involving the engine.

The vehicle was towed by AAA to our local repair facility. On Monday morning August 15, 2016 the vehicle was diagnosed as having a cracked engine block.

With the information I had on hand I contacted American Honda as Consumer Reports advised.

Aug 15, 2006: I spoke with a couple friendly reps. I received a case number and was told the vehicle was under warranty and contact the local dealership and inform them of the break down date and tow records. The rep did tell me the warranty had expired on Sunday the day before my call.

I immediately called the dealership (Leith Honda-Raleigh) Service Dept. I spoke with a Service Advisor who asked for the Vin#. He initially stated that the Honda’s Vin did not show any recalls/warranty for Cracked Engine Blocks. I informed him that I just got off the phone with American Honda and they stated “yes”. However, expired yesterday and to inform him of the mechanical breakdown date. Long story short not covered.

I called American Honda back and was informed to have the Honda towed to Leith Honda for diagnoses. The next morning Tuesday Aug 16, 2016 the Honda was towed to Leith Honda.

One week and a day later (Aug 24, 2016) the Service Advisor called and left a message that it was a Cracked Engine Block. They spoke with some District person and offered us 90% of the cost of repair. I am to pay 10% of the repair. My estimated cost $375.00

I spoke with the Service Advisor and tried to explain to him the warranty was for 100% and the breakdown date.

He stated that the warranty would have been in effect if it was originally towed to Leith Honda. Leith Honda did not want to see the AAA tow records.

I called back to American Honda (Aug 24, 2016) and informed them of same. American Honda assigned a Case Manager. The case Manager called the next day and asked me to fax him copies of the tow records. The tow records were faxed within an hour.

On Tuesday (Aug 30, 2016) I called the Case Manager to be only informed that American Honda is accepting Leith Honda’s views on the repair cost and warranty date. Even though there was proof of Mechanical Breakdown during the warranty period.

Thursday (Sept 01, 2016) Leith Honda Service has called and informed us that we need a Head Cylinder @$2840.00 we are to pay 50%. I asked how was that damaged. I was told the damage was due to overheating. He agreed it was because of the faulty Engine Block. We are also to pay 10% for Coils at $391.42. The Motor mount and bracket was damaged but does not have to be repaired right now.

TSB: States to replace the coils if damaged. We should not have to pay for this.
TSN: States to check the Cylinder Head for damage. If damage is found (Online, enter keywords HEAD INSPECT, and select CYLINDER HEAD INSPECTION for Warpage. [R18A1 and R18A4] from the list and do steps 2 and 3).
We should also not be paying for the replacement of the Cylinder Head.
The case manager at American Honda is supposed to call tomorrow.
Case manager called he is still agreeing with American Honda. Case Manager stated there is no appeal and no else I can talk to above him.
Sept 06, 2016 Spoke with a rep and Case Manager at American Honda that stated if the vehicle was towed to Leith Honda I would be covered for 100%.
Sept 07, 2016 Service advisor at Leith Honda also stated if the vehicle was towed to Honda dealership we would be covered at 100%.
The Warranty is for 10 years/unlimited miles and the Engine Block Mechanical Failure happened in the warranty period.

I made a BBB dispute against American Honda. They responded on Sept 21, 2016 the vehicle was out of warranty.

Honda keeps stating the vehicle was out of warranty.

Clearly they know the vehicle was under warranty at the breakdown. Facts of the breakdown was faxed to them. Records from AAA were sent about the tow.

Their national number to call for warranties issues reference to Engine Block Crack failure were closed over the weekend."

 

[jsanchezzz]

Engine cracked

So i was driving on the highway and smoke started to come out of my car, engine light was flashing and then my engine died! I got it towed to Honda and thankfully i was under warranty to have this fixed.

I have a 2008 Honda Civic, with roughly 250k on it. They advised me they will only be replacing the engine block, not the entire engine.

My question is, does replacing the engine block make the car feel new at all, or even drive better? I was hoping for a new engine but they mentioned it is only the block they are replacing. And what is involved in a block replacement? Which parts within or around the block get replaced?

Hoping the car feels smoother after the repair.

Bringing back an old thread from last year!

Thank You!

 

[Messerschmitt]

So i was driving on the highway and smoke started to come out of my car, engine light was flashing and then my engine died! I got it towed to Honda and thankfully i was under warranty to have this fixed.

I have a 2008 Honda Civic, with roughly 250k on it. They advised me they will only be replacing the engine block, not the entire engine.

My question is, does replacing the engine block make the car feel new at all, or even drive better? I was hoping for a new engine but they mentioned it is only the block they are replacing. And what is involved in a block replacement? Which parts within or around the block get replaced?

Hoping the car feels smoother after the repair.

Bringing back an old thread from last year!

Thank You!

Lucky you. My car just expired at the end of last month. Time to play the gamble now I guess

I hate Honda for doing this. I understand that only cracked blocks are only feasible to be replaced, but don't limit to 10 years. If it's a manufacturer fault, cover it for the life of the car.

 

[RedCoupe]

Whats involved? This PDF lists all the parts and some of the procedures, note the time 12.5 hours of labour.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/attac...x-sedan-service-bulletin-10-048-honda-service-bulletin-10-048-cracked-block.pdf

It will not make you car feel new or drive new, however you may be expected to follow the original break-in recommendations, they may advise that other parts are replaced as well which are not covered under the warranty and you will have to pay out of pocket.

 

[NKaufman]

So what are people whose 10 year have expired and who have not faced this crack yet, supposed to do now?

What are our options? My 2007 EX has only 86K on it, runs great, serviced at dealer (only with specials/coupons ).

Is there anything that I can do to avoid facing this issue? What would it cost?

What does replacing engine block cost if this issue happens in future?

Thanks

 

[bobnn]

ooops

 

[thunderquan]

So what are people whose 10 year have expired and who have not faced this crack yet, supposed to do now?

What are our options? My 2007 EX has only 86K on it, runs great, serviced at dealer (only with specials/coupons ).

Is there anything that I can do to avoid facing this issue? What would it cost?

What does replacing engine block cost if this issue happens in future?

Thanks

I guess there's nothing you can do to prevent this problem. Check your coolant level often and if it's low kind of suddenly that means there may be a crack developing and leaking coolant. Stop immediately if the temperature gauge shows any sign of overheating, to avoid further damage to other parts of the engine such as the cylinder head.

Call Honda US customer service and open a case and argue with them. See if they can cover at least partial of the part of a new engine block and labor. Do not expect too much but no harm to try.

If they don't help or just cover a small part, you probably need to replace with an used engine and pay by yourself.(probably $4000+ with dealer and $2000-3000 with a local repair store.) If you don't care about the leaking, search on Youtube how to glue the crack. Hope this helps.

 

[whatsamattaU]

engine block cracked

engine cracked just like honda's web picture, car wasn't driven but honda corp said up yours in any compensation. since it was past their "extended time" I should of known it was the same response when i contacted them about the paint job. They wouldn't even have the decency to call me back. I left several messages over two weeks all very polite, said that they would call me back on x day, no call.... customer service from corp center sucks.

 

[MaXpeedingRods]

In many cold-climate or cold weather cases, an engine’s cracked block is caused by freezing. The coolant strength isn’t up to par. When the coolant in the engine freezes, it expands. The frozen coolant pushes against the metal surrounding it, cracking the block, and will also soon cause the antifreeze to leak and the cooling system to fail.