Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR)

mrbill · 04-12-2008, 10:47 AM

Transmission Grinds When Shifting Into 3rd Gear, Pops Out of 3rd Gear, or
Is Hard to Shift Into 3rd Gear

SYMPTOM
The 6-speed manual transmission grinds when shifting
into 3rd gear, pops out of 3rd gear, or is hard to shift
into 3rd gear.
NOTE: These symptoms can be intermittent and
sometimes more noticeable in colder climates.

PROBABLE CAUSE
The transmission has a faulty 3rd gear synchronizer or
3-4 shift sleeve.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Replace the 3rd gear set.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
2003–07 Accord V6 with M/T: ALL
2008 Accord V6 with M/T 2-Door:
From VIN 1HGCS218.8A000001
thru 1HGCS218.8A003478
2006–07 Civic Si 2-Door: ALL
2008 Civic Si 2-Door:
From VIN 2HGFG215.8H700001
thru 2HGFG215.8H701973
2007 Civic Si 4-Door: ALL
2008 Civic Si 4-Door:
From VIN 2HGFA555.8H700001
thru 2HGFA555.8H702465

-mr. bill

update -

Dealerships Fixing 3rd Gear
List of Dealerships fixing 3rd gear problems
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***stock?*** · 04-12-2008, 10:49 AM

This legit?

rickhilbert · 04-12-2008, 10:50 AM

I had this done on my car about 2 weeks ago. Felt great for a few days and now is notchy as hell again. On the other hand, it hasn't popped out of third yet!

rickhilbert · 04-12-2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock?

This legit?

Yes, my dealership found this a month ago.

mrbill · 04-12-2008, 10:51 AM

It's legit. (Information wants to be free.)

-mr. bill

***SiAzul*** · 04-12-2008, 10:52 AM

awsome

***stock?*** · 04-12-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickhilbert

I had this done on my car about 2 weeks ago. Felt great for a few days and now is notchy as hell again. On the other hand, it hasn't popped out of third yet!

hmm back to the stealership...

z4k · 04-12-2008, 10:54 AM

Nice! When I pick up my 08 I'll look at the VIN before I leave with the car!

rickhilbert · 04-12-2008, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock?

hmm back to the stealership...

I think its a lost cause at this point, but can hurt to go back. To tell you the truth 2nd has always been more of a problem for me. It gives an audible grind at almost any rpm while shifting.

***stock?*** · 04-12-2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickhilbert

I think its a lost cause at this point, but can hurt to go back. To tell you the truth 2nd has always been more of a problem for me. It gives an audible grind at almost any rpm while shifting.

yea i was driving yesterday and 3rd popped out and it grinded 2nd...

Xenin · 04-12-2008, 11:15 AM

your dealership found this a month ago? wtf?

rickhilbert · 04-12-2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenin

your dealership found this a month ago? wtf?

Yeh I had the third gear set replaced a little over two weeks ago. I can post pictures of the shop ticket later. Need to get my camera back. Either way, this fix is a crock.

mitsukaiSI · 04-12-2008, 11:18 AM

They have had a TSb to replace syncros for a while but this just replaces the faulty syncros with identical ones which doesn't fix the issue of bad design

Xenin · 04-12-2008, 11:19 AM

i was at Honda last week and the guy there didnt see anything.

No.11 · 04-12-2008, 11:19 AM

So for the 08s they caught it at some point and fixed it in all models after that? Can we safely assume that the 09s won't have the same problem?

rickhilbert · 04-12-2008, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenin

i was at Honda last week and the guy there didnt see anything.

Yeh, I had that with two out of three dealerships. The third one found it no problem. Ill have my ticket posted in about an hour.

***stock?*** · 04-12-2008, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickhilbert

Yeh I had the third gear set replaced a little over two weeks ago. I can post pictures of the shop ticket later. Need to get my camera back. Either way, this fix is a crock.

how long did they keep your car?

rickhilbert · 04-12-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stock?

how long did they keep your car?

This is the odd part. I dropped my car off early in the morning before work. They called my at about 6:00 pm and said that they found a TSB for my car. She mentioned that the parts had to come from Davenport. The parts came in the next morning and the car was done later that afternoon.

They washed my car but there was still some grease in various places around my front bumper, so I assumed they did in fact replace the third gear set. But like I mentioned the problems are back again, so I wonder what they actually did to the car.

mrbill · 04-12-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitsukaiSI

They have had a TSb to replace syncros for a while but this just replaces the faulty syncros with identical ones which doesn't fix the issue of bad design

Wrong! This TSB replaces the old third gear set 23444-PNS-306 with a new third gear set 23444-PNS-316.

-mr. bill

FUXX · 04-12-2008, 11:38 AM

Is this official??

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04-12-2008, 10:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
rickhilbert Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,185 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I had this done on my car about 2 weeks ago. Felt great for a few days and now is notchy as hell again. On the other hand, it hasn't popped out of third yet!

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mrbill Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MA Posts: 486 iTrader: 1 / 100%	It's legit. (Information wants to be free.) -mr. bill

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*SiAzul* VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Durham, NC Age: 21 Posts: 4,035 Mario iTrader: 2 / 100%	awsome

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z4k Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 75 Zak Prell iTrader: -1 / 0%	Nice! When I pick up my 08 I'll look at the VIN before I leave with the car!

04-12-2008, 11:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
Xenin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brampton Age: 26 Posts: 4,064 K.C. -- Captain Projectors iTrader: 2 / 100%	your dealership found this a month ago? wtf?

04-12-2008, 11:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
mitsukaiSI Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,208 Mike iTrader: 1 / 100%	They have had a TSb to replace syncros for a while but this just replaces the faulty syncros with identical ones which doesn't fix the issue of bad design

04-12-2008, 11:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Xenin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brampton Age: 26 Posts: 4,064 K.C. -- Captain Projectors iTrader: 2 / 100%	i was at Honda last week and the guy there didnt see anything.

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No.11 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 267 iTrader: 0 / 0%	So for the 08s they caught it at some point and fixed it in all models after that? Can we safely assume that the 09s won't have the same problem?

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FUXX Junior Member Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Is this official??