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Old 04-12-2008, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Honda TSB 08-020 April 12, 2008 (3RD GEAR)

Transmission Grinds When Shifting Into 3rd Gear, Pops Out of 3rd Gear, or
Is Hard to Shift Into 3rd Gear


SYMPTOM
The 6-speed manual transmission grinds when shifting
into 3rd gear, pops out of 3rd gear, or is hard to shift
into 3rd gear.
NOTE: These symptoms can be intermittent and
sometimes more noticeable in colder climates.

PROBABLE CAUSE
The transmission has a faulty 3rd gear synchronizer or
3-4 shift sleeve.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Replace the 3rd gear set.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
2003–07 Accord V6 with M/T: ALL
2008 Accord V6 with M/T 2-Door:
From VIN 1HGCS218.8A000001
thru 1HGCS218.8A003478
2006–07 Civic Si 2-Door: ALL
2008 Civic Si 2-Door:
From VIN 2HGFG215.8H700001
thru 2HGFG215.8H701973
2007 Civic Si 4-Door: ALL
2008 Civic Si 4-Door:
From VIN 2HGFA555.8H700001
thru 2HGFA555.8H702465

-mr. bill

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Dealerships Fixing 3rd Gear

List of Dealerships fixing 3rd gear problems

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rickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivic
I had this done on my car about 2 weeks ago. Felt great for a few days and now is notchy as hell again. On the other hand, it hasn't popped out of third yet!
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rickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivic
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This legit?
Yes, my dealership found this a month ago.
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I had this done on my car about 2 weeks ago. Felt great for a few days and now is notchy as hell again. On the other hand, it hasn't popped out of third yet!
hmm back to the stealership...
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Nice! When I pick up my 08 I'll look at the VIN before I leave with the car!
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rickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivic
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hmm back to the stealership...
I think its a lost cause at this point, but can hurt to go back. To tell you the truth 2nd has always been more of a problem for me. It gives an audible grind at almost any rpm while shifting.
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I think its a lost cause at this point, but can hurt to go back. To tell you the truth 2nd has always been more of a problem for me. It gives an audible grind at almost any rpm while shifting.
yea i was driving yesterday and 3rd popped out and it grinded 2nd...
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Xenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivic
your dealership found this a month ago? wtf?
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rickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivic
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your dealership found this a month ago? wtf?
Yeh I had the third gear set replaced a little over two weeks ago. I can post pictures of the shop ticket later. Need to get my camera back. Either way, this fix is a crock.
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They have had a TSb to replace syncros for a while but this just replaces the faulty syncros with identical ones which doesn't fix the issue of bad design
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Xenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivicXenin just put it into 4th gear on 8thcivic
i was at Honda last week and the guy there didnt see anything.
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So for the 08s they caught it at some point and fixed it in all models after that? Can we safely assume that the 09s won't have the same problem?
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rickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivicrickhilbert just put it into 3rd gear on 8thcivic
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i was at Honda last week and the guy there didnt see anything.
Yeh, I had that with two out of three dealerships. The third one found it no problem. Ill have my ticket posted in about an hour.
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Yeh I had the third gear set replaced a little over two weeks ago. I can post pictures of the shop ticket later. Need to get my camera back. Either way, this fix is a crock.
how long did they keep your car?
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how long did they keep your car?
This is the odd part. I dropped my car off early in the morning before work. They called my at about 6:00 pm and said that they found a TSB for my car. She mentioned that the parts had to come from Davenport. The parts came in the next morning and the car was done later that afternoon.

They washed my car but there was still some grease in various places around my front bumper, so I assumed they did in fact replace the third gear set. But like I mentioned the problems are back again, so I wonder what they actually did to the car.
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They have had a TSb to replace syncros for a while but this just replaces the faulty syncros with identical ones which doesn't fix the issue of bad design
Wrong! This TSB replaces the old third gear set 23444-PNS-306 with a new third gear set 23444-PNS-316.

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