I dunno about that one, speak for yourself buddy. =)King Bob said:
-Freq
Skunk2 Stage 1 Camshafts
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.procivic.com/pages-product_car_part_info/category-70_135/product-311/index.html
On Skunk2's site, they only show cams for the k20a, not our k20z...
has anyone installed these yet? Or is this just an error on procivic's part?
-Freq
http://www.procivic.com/pages-product_car_part_info/category-70_135/product-311/index.html
On Skunk2's site, they only show cams for the k20a, not our k20z...
has anyone installed these yet? Or is this just an error on procivic's part?
-Freq
41 - 60 of 68 Posts
-Freq
Hey guys, came across this thread and thought I might be able to offer some info and be of some help.
First off, this is my first post to the board. Hello to everyone! This is Tony Shagday, one of the race car drivers for Skunk and the Sales Manager here. Skunk2 is going to be taking a more proactive approach to being involved in message boards and public discussions in the next few months and 8thcivic.com is one of the boards that im pushing to advertise on and get involved with. These days, message boards provide a great tool to be in direct contact with the consumer masses and its kind of a shame that more manufacturers arent more involved with these boards and the end consumer. Being able to see your feedback and opinions can help us shape our customer service and future products. Im hoping that our involvement with this site will be a good decision and that the direct support that we can offer will be received with open arms.
That being said, seeing as how everyone on this board is still real hesitant on cams (understandably so, without full tuning capabilites available), I have a shop that is currently in the process of doing a back to back dyno comparison with basic bolt ons and a Hondata reflash with stock cams vs stage 1 cams. Doug @ Hondata seems to think that the reflash will be enough to work with a stage 1 cam to show modest gains. We havent been able to test that theory out, so this shop wanted to end any speculation and see for themself. Of course, FULL gains will not be able to be utilized until a full Kpro becomes available, but we will see how much the reflash and cams will do. They will be paying close attention to AF ratios and will post up that info once there done.
I figure letting all of you know that a test is being done might help end some of the questions that are in the "grey area".
Thanks, that is all for now. Ill keep you guys updated when i hear anything. Im just as curious to know the results.
**btw this is a great site!! :thumb:
First off, this is my first post to the board. Hello to everyone! This is Tony Shagday, one of the race car drivers for Skunk and the Sales Manager here. Skunk2 is going to be taking a more proactive approach to being involved in message boards and public discussions in the next few months and 8thcivic.com is one of the boards that im pushing to advertise on and get involved with. These days, message boards provide a great tool to be in direct contact with the consumer masses and its kind of a shame that more manufacturers arent more involved with these boards and the end consumer. Being able to see your feedback and opinions can help us shape our customer service and future products. Im hoping that our involvement with this site will be a good decision and that the direct support that we can offer will be received with open arms.
That being said, seeing as how everyone on this board is still real hesitant on cams (understandably so, without full tuning capabilites available), I have a shop that is currently in the process of doing a back to back dyno comparison with basic bolt ons and a Hondata reflash with stock cams vs stage 1 cams. Doug @ Hondata seems to think that the reflash will be enough to work with a stage 1 cam to show modest gains. We havent been able to test that theory out, so this shop wanted to end any speculation and see for themself. Of course, FULL gains will not be able to be utilized until a full Kpro becomes available, but we will see how much the reflash and cams will do. They will be paying close attention to AF ratios and will post up that info once there done.
I figure letting all of you know that a test is being done might help end some of the questions that are in the "grey area".
Thanks, that is all for now. Ill keep you guys updated when i hear anything. Im just as curious to know the results.
**btw this is a great site!! :thumb:
Oh good! Finally you guys showed up. Few things...Skunk2TS said:Hey guys, came across this thread and thought I might be able to offer some info and be of some help.
First off, this is my first post to the board. Hello to everyone! This is Tony Shagday, one of the race car drivers for Skunk and the Sales Manager here. Skunk2 is going to be taking a more proactive approach to being involved in message boards and public discussions in the next few months and 8thcivic.com is one of the boards that im pushing to advertise on and get involved with. These days, message boards provide a great tool to be in direct contact with the consumer masses and its kind of a shame that more manufacturers arent more involved with these boards and the end consumer. Being able to see your feedback and opinions can help us shape our customer service and future products. Im hoping that our involvement with this site will be a good decision and that the direct support that we can offer will be received with open arms.
That being said, seeing as how everyone on this board is still real hesitant on cams (understandably so, without full tuning capabilites available), I have a shop that is currently in the process of doing a back to back dyno comparison with basic bolt ons and a Hondata reflash with stock cams vs stage 1 cams. Doug @ Hondata seems to think that the reflash will be enough to work with a stage 1 cam to show modest gains. We havent been able to test that theory out, so this shop wanted to end any speculation and see for themself. Of course, FULL gains will not be able to be utilized until a full Kpro becomes available, but we will see how much the reflash and cams will do. They will be paying close attention to AF ratios and will post up that info once there done.
I figure letting all of you know that a test is being done might help end some of the questions that are in the "grey area".
Thanks, that is all for now. Ill keep you guys updated when i hear anything. Im just as curious to know the results.
**btw this is a great site!! :thumb:
1) When are you guys gonna complete the composite fuel rail and intake manifold for us to buy?
2) What intake do you guys run. Just curious since everyone has debates about it all the time.
3) Are you guys ever gonna sell a race header?
I love the 70mm megapower btw. Thanks.
ive always been led to think that tuning isnt as important on a stage 1 cam as it is for anything more than that.... Civic... Mustang.. Corvette.. whatever.. stage 1 cams i thought were to be a very safe power adder without any additional tuning. although you could see more gains from tuning.
OH perfect! i was just planning to pick up the stage 1 cams and work from there on my own.
i have the TSX cams and i definately felt gains... i also have hondata
Curious, I was on the skunk2 website looking around and I saw the compoist and the regular skunk2 intake manifolds. One says 8% from better airflow and the other 3% from just being cooler, does the composite one also provide as good airflow as the other and the 8% or is it just a bit better airflow and just runs cooler?
Interesting.. subscribed...
skunk2 product whore
skunk2 product whore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reliant K20Z3
Yeah, although even with that 12HP, it would be running kinda funky, rough idle and just weird. I would rather wait and run them the way they should be, with a good tune.
(posted by adamhound)
When did I say this????
With very aggressive aftermarket cams, you might have a slightly rough idle, but from what Church told me, should run ok.
Originally Posted by Reliant K20Z3
Yeah, although even with that 12HP, it would be running kinda funky, rough idle and just weird. I would rather wait and run them the way they should be, with a good tune.
(posted by adamhound)
When did I say this????
With very aggressive aftermarket cams, you might have a slightly rough idle, but from what Church told me, should run ok.
adamhoud said:I wasn't arguing, just agreeing with prior statement. I somehow think nobody will go out of their way to provide us with A/F/dyno gains of cams with just a reflash.
actually if Church auto is going to dyno the Skunk2 Cams for Skunk2, then yes, you will see an A/F ratio.
3
:smile:
1) Now that the B series fuel rails are done, we are working on getting the K ones out as soon as possible. Should be soon. The material that both the fuel rails and manifolds are being made out of is fairly hard to work with. The production process for the fuel rails has been ironed out finalized and now the larger intake manifolds are being worked on.
2) On our Time Attack FG (see pics below) we run a custom cold air intake.
3)Yes, we are going to be releasing a line of B and K headers close to the end of this year.
Thanks for the compliments on the exhaust
![]()
![]()
![]()
Better late then never right? :smile:Excalibur said:Oh good! Finally you guys showed up. Few things...
1) When are you guys gonna complete the composite fuel rail and intake manifold for us to buy?
2) What intake do you guys run. Just curious since everyone has debates about it all the time.
3) Are you guys ever gonna sell a race header?
I love the 70mm megapower btw. Thanks.
1) Now that the B series fuel rails are done, we are working on getting the K ones out as soon as possible. Should be soon. The material that both the fuel rails and manifolds are being made out of is fairly hard to work with. The production process for the fuel rails has been ironed out finalized and now the larger intake manifolds are being worked on.
2) On our Time Attack FG (see pics below) we run a custom cold air intake.
3)Yes, we are going to be releasing a line of B and K headers close to the end of this year.
Thanks for the compliments on the exhaust
Tuning is important on any cam. Yes, there have been cams out there that require a little less tuning with a "stage 1" cam. But like you said, there is always more gains with tuning. Honda has gifted these K motors with VTC which makes tuning on any stage cam vital to optimum performance.Nathen said:ive always been led to think that tuning isnt as important on a stage 1 cam as it is for anything more than that.... Civic... Mustang.. Corvette.. whatever.. stage 1 cams i thought were to be a very safe power adder without any additional tuning. although you could see more gains from tuning.
We'll see how some stage 1's do with just a reflash hopefully soon.
The Composite Manifold flows better than the current aluminum B manifold offered. The insides on the two is different, not to mention the difference in surface finish.Jandonian said:Curious, I was on the skunk2 website looking around and I saw the compoist and the regular skunk2 intake manifolds. One says 8% from better airflow and the other 3% from just being cooler, does the composite one also provide as good airflow as the other and the 8% or is it just a bit better airflow and just runs cooler?
Church is correct. Even a stage 3 cam will idle like stock for daily driving purposes.Reliant K20Z3 said:With very aggressive aftermarket cams, you might have a slightly rough idle
I may be wrong but if you do cams and everything else is stock...And something happens, how would they know? I mean unless it's like a head related problem, they really wouldn't know would they? Or do they like plug something into the ECU and check it all over
Thanks for the updates. By the way, care to comment/defend what happened in Modified Mag? Would our lovely Si have done better without that malfunction? Total guess, instead of 10th, where do you think we would have landed, hypothetically speaking, if things went well?
Thanks!
Thanks!
man it would be great if you guys would make a plug for the sunroof for all of us that want to lower the center of gravity in our cars and dump the weight.
Thanks for the quick responses man, that manifold sounds amazing cant wait for it
thats actually not ment for cars, just electrical appliances like pc's iirc. it has been used to defend car modders though. if they can prove that the cams or its installation damaged what ur trying to warrantee then ur screwed.NighHawk8Gen said:Search "moss munguson act" or something like that.
olice:This is wat you do find some HONDA K SERIES CAMS THE BEST ONE I THINK THE TYPE R ONES FROM JAPAN ARE THE BEST AND PUT THEM ON. THAT WAY U HAVE THE OEM BUT BIGGER LOBES SO MORE HP.. CAMS ARE THE BEST WAY TO ADD H.P ANY K SERIERS CAM WITH FIT ANY K SERIES MOTORS
41 - 60 of 68 Posts
- This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
8th Generation Honda Civic Forum
We’re a community for 8th Gen 2006 - 2011 Civic owners to discuss performance mods, body kits, Si models, turbo kits and accessories. Come Join the club!
Full Forum Listing
Explore Our Forums
Top Contributors this Month
View All
fraser386
28 Replies
Megaman X
18 Replies
StaticRRFA5
17 Replies
Recommended Communities
