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Oil Pan Threads Stripped...few questions

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#1 ·
FG2 06

I have changed the oil on my coupe the better part of 20 times with no incident or issue.

I always use a crush washer, I torque to spec (31 ft lbs) and in consideration of my obnoxious neighbors I even stopped pouring my spent motor oil in their jacuzzi filter.

Today after finger tightening the drain bolt with crush washer, I put my torque on to finish...and it kept spinning (with only light resistance). I freaked for a minute....looking for any signs of cracks in the pan, then backed the drain bolt out.

Looking at the bolt...I could visibly see the threads of the pain clinging lightly to the bolt. Soft aluminum filings, that I would say accounted for about %50 of the pan threads. Now I was torqued.

I tried to clean and remove any remaining loose filings...and went out and grabbed a 14-1.5 single oversized drain bolt. I finger tightened, and then gave about a 90° turn and felt moderate resistance. I did not want try and torque to spec....fearing further damage.

My Questions:

1. Is this a viable temporary solution... avoiding my k20 seizing would be super

2. Is tapping a slightly large hole a viable permanent solution?

3. Dropping the sub frame (with only jack stands) to swap out the pan is not the most attractive alternative, but is this my best bet?

I have not had to pay the stealership a single dime in my 6 years of ownership and have done all service, mods and maintenance myself. I just don't know if I have the time right now to actually put in a new pan...and if its not necessary, would ideally like to avoid it.

Thanks. Yes, I know...I suck.
 
#2 ·
can you drop the subframe with the car on ramps?

the reason i ask is because tapping aluminum is almost always a lost cause. its too soft a metal to hold the new tapping. Plus you can't effectively remove metal shavings from the inside of the pan. With how cheap a used or even a new pan can be i would front for a new pan. its much cheaper to get that replaced by a shop than an engine from loss of oil or metal contamination.

honda sucks with these pans. i think you would be fine torqing by hand until its snug then a whole turn with a wrench. 31 seems high its not 25?
 
#4 ·
I caved and am sitting at stealership waiting to see if insert is possible.

Thoroughly bummed...but honestly 80k deep and no mechanical issues besides reg maintenance and a starter (though that was evily placed like the oil filter...having to yank intake manifold to swap starter...cmon!)...I suppose I should suck it up.
 
#8 ·
Are you sure you have consulted the civic manual when torqueing this drain plug, its 29 ft-lb for mine. But it could be your torque wrench is not that accurate.


quote poser wrote:
I torque to spec (31 ft lbs) and in consideration of my obnoxious neighbors I even stopped pouring my spent motor oil in their jacuzzi filter.
 
#9 · (Edited)
Update: Tried a time sert...but due to the aluminum, it was a no go. Sucked it up, brought it to the stealership that my friend works at, got a pleasant surprise. $400 for new pan and labor (charged actual time, not "proscribed" time) and got me pan at "cost" (sans markup). Honestly can't complain...it would have taken me 6 hours in my driveway.

Also...we both agreed the SO 14-1.5 probably would have held till next change, but, probably as a single use. Would have had to try time sert or new pan at next change.