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going to be doing my own this week... i have too many issues. i always stay at the place and watch to make sure they put the oil i brought in.. one time i dropped my car off somewhere and they told me my FG1 had called for a synthetic blend and it was gonna be $65. lets rip this 20 year old girl off they said, that'll be easy they said. the higher the heel, the more pathetic the attempts to take my money are and i'm fed up with watching them through the glass
 

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What did you say when they told you that you had to have synthetic?
 

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o m g... the most retarded oil filter location lol i have a accord with a k24 and the oil filter is right under the car. so i was under my si for the first time looking for the filter and was like whaaaa.... where the hell is this thing! lol makes me want to get a filter relocation kit.
WOW!!!!!!!!! I totally agree. I have owned 8 Hondas and this will be my last. Absolutely the worst design engineering I have seen. I have been changing my own oil for 30 years on a few dozen cars, sometimes I take it in and have others do it when I don't have time. Its not that I don't trust them like some people, I just have always preferred to do it myself. Now, I will have to take it in because this is just too damn stupid to get to. And now, when I take it in a really am going to question whether or not they change the filter and will have to ask for it back because it is so hard to access I could easily see them saying F this, he'll never know.

I tried to get to it without taking the wheel off, but gave up and took the damn wheel off for an oil change. You should not have to remove a wheel to change an oil filter. Even then, and up in the air, it is flat out hard to get to (I call Triple BS on everyone here that says it is easy to get to). And forget about hand tight, you can't get your hand in the right spot to turn it.

Honda engineers should have to work on these things in their home garage. If they did, I don't think this type of crap would happen. Honda really blew it here. Who doesn't love oil splashing everywhere when they remove the filter. I tried the baggie trick, helps a little but there is still oil all over the frame due to such a bad location. I have the same problem with my 2010 Pilot, better access but still splashes everywhere. Speaking of my Pilot, who puts an oil dipstick in a place that you can't get to? Honda, that's who. You actually have to reach around the fan shroud and engine cover to bend the dipstick into the right hole that you can't see. Insane!!!!!!!!!!!!! All they would have had to do is make the dipstick tube 3" longer (or 75 mm if you prefer). I am now thinking it would just be nice if Honda engineers actually drove their own vehicles.

They really are trying to sabotage us when it comes to keeping the oil clean. If you look at the cute recesses they put for the dipstick handle and oil cap it is impossible to clean these off before removing, which is the fist rule in proper lubrication procedures (keep dirt out). Great idea to make the engine compartment look good but I am more interested in it lasting forever. Contamination in the oil is the number one reason engines go to an early grave. And then they don't even change the oil filter on the first oil change, which is absolutely the most important time to change the filter and get rid of the break in contamination.

I am done. Thanks for letting me vent. But I have given up on Honda. I think I will go out and find 1979 Mazda RX7 that had the filter sticking up in the engine bay, simple on and off with no mess. Even my stupid BMW 325 with over engineered everything and impossible to reach anything had a filter that could be changed by your average owner.
 

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Great DIY! Although I've read this several times just for clarification, I increasingly read people skip replacing the crush washer during oil changes. I always replace it, BUT WHY THOUGH?

If its purpose is to further seal the oil plug from the oil pan, then I think an O-Ring would better suited to do this job. I may be wrong but its just an assumption!
 

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Great DIY. I just did the first oil change on my civic and the job was simple, but if I didn't read about the AL crush washer I never would have known it was there. The old one was practically fused onto the drain plug and they looked like one piece. It was a battle to separate them.
 

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Great DIY. I just did the first oil change on my civic and the job was simple, but if I didn't read about the AL crush washer I never would have known it was there. The old one was practically fused onto the drain plug and they looked like one piece. It was a battle to separate them.
Meh, just get a flat head screw driver and a hammer (or mallet, doesn't matter), set the flat head up against the crush washer and give it a wack. should come right off.
 

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Meh, just get a flat head screw driver and a hammer (or mallet, doesn't matter), set the flat head up against the crush washer and give it a wack. should come right off.
I dont know how many times the previous owners mechanic reused the same washer, but it was definitely not that easy. I used a flathead and hammer, but the washer did not come free all at once, each small section I pried on just bent up and the rest of the washer stayed in place. Eventually after the washer was looking mushroom-like, it was finally able to rotate and I backed the bolt out of it with the rachet. It didn't really take that long, but still longer than it should have.
 

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Thanks for the DIY. Just picked up an 06 Si and this helped. The oil filter was definitely a lot more of a pain to get to on the Si but not too bad if you turn your steering wheel all the way to the right. If you remove the two clips and pull back the access panel there's plenty of room to work with.
 

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So unscrew bolt and filter let drain. Put bolt and new filter back on and put oil in! Got it. I forgot to put the oil in, now it's got this upnoxious knocking noise..hopefully it goes away with the oil back in it.
 

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So unscrew bolt and filter let drain. Put bolt and new filter back on and put oil in! Got it. I forgot to put the oil in, now it's got this upnoxious knocking noise..hopefully it goes away with the oil back in it.
:facepalm::facepalm: You're joking right?
 

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So unscrew bolt and filter let drain. Put bolt and new filter back on and put oil in! Got it. I forgot to put the oil in, now it's got this upnoxious knocking noise..hopefully it goes away with the oil back in it.
Curious to see if any long term damage was done.
 
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