[wel4wop707]

I was wondering if someone could help chime in and compare the Kelford stg1 cams vs. 06-08 TSX camshafts.
I am leaning towards the kelford stg1. upgrading my valve train is NOT an option.

Thanx 8th Gen

 

[ScivicI]

I believe the Kelford cams are relatively new, so finding a comparison is going to be difficult. I know someone around here is testing the Kelford stg2 cams....

But that is all I've heard about Kelford around here so far. Awesome company though!

 

[wel4wop707]

I would like helping comparing the two cams specs, im not looking for any actual trials conducted.

2008 TSX K24a2
Intake Lobes
PRI: 33.42mm
SEC: 33.42mm
VTEC: 35.52mm

Exhaust Lobes
PRI: 33.09mm
SEC: 33.09mm
VTEC: 35.09mm

Kelford Stage 1 cams
Int, 272/274 @ 0.1mm, 202/210 @ 1.00mm 7.55/8.30mm Valve lift

Exh, 272/276 @ 0.1mm, 202/212 @ 1.00mm, 7.55/7.55mm Valve lift

 

[wel4wop707]

I suppose since no information is being added to this post I just take a chance and try the Kelford stg1 cams down the road.

 

[wel4wop707]

Can you shut this thread please?

 

[2xSi]

I would like helping comparing the two cams specs, im not looking for any actual trials conducted.

2008 TSX K24a2
Intake Lobes
PRI: 33.42mm
SEC: 33.42mm
VTEC: 35.52mm

Exhaust Lobes
PRI: 33.09mm
SEC: 33.09mm
VTEC: 35.09mm

Kelford Stage 1 cams
Int, 272/274 @ 0.1mm, 202/210 @ 1.00mm 7.55/8.30mm Valve lift

Exh, 272/276 @ 0.1mm, 202/212 @ 1.00mm, 7.55/7.55mm Valve lift

The Tsx numbers are just caliper measurements of the lobes. You can't use them to compare. The Stg 1 numbers you posted must be the lower lobes only and are about the same as OEM k20z3. If you are interested in cams that do not require valvetrain upgade RedFG2 just dynoed @ 231hp with GoPower drop in cams.

 

[wel4wop707]

Cool thanx for the info. I want to go with go power but 895 for drop ins seems a little much. I will definetly consider this option though. As far as I know, no one has anything negative to say about Go Power. Maybe I should just say F it and wait til I have the dough for the GP drop in cams. I guess you gotta pay to play in this field.

 

[Kenny311]

imo tsx cams are a good option at less than 1/3 of the price of go-pwr drop ins

i wouldn't pay $900 for cams and not have upgraded valvetrain, but thats just me. you could try to find a set of used stage 1 or drop in cams. theres a set of toruku cams on k20a right now for $400.

edit>>> http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=70693&highlight=toruku im sure you could talk him down a little bit too

 

[2xSi]

I sold that guy those Toruku cams. They are brand new.They will work on the k20z3, but they have 12.5 mm lift. That is pushing it without valvetrain upgrade on a k20z3. The lower lobes on the Toruku are about the same as stock. Toruku is out of business. TSX is definately the best bang for the buck especially if you can get them used.

 

[wel4wop707]

I'll have to keep searching the other forums until I can find a pair of used 06-08 TSX cams then.

 

[skinsfn36]

bumping this thread, import tuner stuck the kelfords in the k20z3 and with an RRC manifold netted 30+hp IIRC. This was the gains over stock tune with DCRH, magnaflow exhaust and stock intake

 

[sivtecboi80]

There is a writeup in Import tuner right now on the Kelford stage 1 cams and rrc manifold. It made an additional 30plus horsepower i forget the actual but they said the cam is drop in and makes good power. RRC manifold impressed the hell out of me to the point its my next purchase.

 

[Kenny311]

i am surprised to see how much valvetrain noise there is with those drop in cams

 

[honda_racer07]

Go get yourself the September issue of import tuner their is a write up on these cams also using the type r manifold. (incredible gains) :dance:
Whoop should of keep reading sorry for the triple post.

 

[honda_racer07]

There is a writeup in Import tuner right now on the Kelford stage 1 cams and rrc manifold. It made an additional 30plus horsepower i forget the actual but they said the cam is drop in and makes good power. RRC manifold impressed the hell out of me to the point its my next purchase.

Same here! :wavey:

 

[honda_racer07]

I'll have to keep searching the other forums until I can find a pair of used 06-08 TSX cams then.

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/engine-transmission-fs/219429-07-tsx-cams-sale-trade-what-ya-got.html
:wheee:

 

[JDM_DOHC_SiR]

Hmmmmm

 

[skinsfn36]

yes, import tuner not honda tuning thank you

 

[ruloSI]

I wish they would have done the RRC then cams (or vice-versa) to compare gains with each mod. From the last "test" of the Kelford Cams (albeit stage 2) the gains were "bad" (they never posted the results). So, I would say take these gains with a grain of salt.

Best regards,

Rulo

 

[jdizzle37]

The Kelford 179-A have primary and secondary lobes that are slightly larger than the TSX cams and are designed for basic bolt-ons and stock compression ratio. However the cams will require tuning and the only "drop-in" part is that the stock valvetrain and timing chain components will work with them. After reading the Import Tuner article, the cams actually lost power past baseline once they were installed. After tuning, they made more power than the RRC manifold tune.

Also, I don't know if ruloSI and I are thinking of the same person, but the person who did the stage 2 cams and had the thread locked here on 8th Civic (still is open at K20a.org [here's the thread]) didn't have the proper setup for what his cams were designed for (the 179-B). Those cams are for extensively build motors. That includes higher compression ratios (probably at least 12.0:1 on stock displacement), increased displacement, head work, free flowing intakes and exhaust among other things.

Can't rule out a set of cams if they weren't put in the right setup. Plus, Import Tuner is the only place I've seen that actually has a damn dyno chart on any Kelford cams, so I say eff all this hearsay.