Kelford Cams

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aLmk

Discussion Starter · Feb 16, 2011

Anyone have experience with these? Particularly on an NA platform. I was thinking about getting these stage 1 or 2. My idea is to get these, probably stage 2 to run as I am now with i/h/e/fp, and eventually I will run a turbo setup. Will these cams do well for both of these setups? And what other items would I need to get them installed and running correctly?

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Strate L O S S

· #221 · Dec 30, 2011

personally I say keep your limit to what they say it is safely tested too.

I know that on an otherwise stock engine my TSX are safe to 8800 rev cut with highest rpm 8950.

also stock oil pump I wouldnt go passed 8k sustained rpms. cavitation ftl.

jsocks014

· #222 · Dec 31, 2011

aLmk said:
You might be better off with some tsx cams

reasons? other than they are cheaper. To my understanding the Kelford's are more aggressive, almost a stage 2. While they are more expensive it may be worth it offering more mid range and if I decide to upgrade valve train some day the Kelfords will respond better to that than TSX cams

Strate L O S S said:
personally I say keep your limit to what they say it is safely tested too.

I know that on an otherwise stock engine my TSX are safe to 8800 rev cut with highest rpm 8950.

also stock oil pump I wouldnt go passed 8k sustained rpms. cavitation ftl.

My rev limit right now is 8600 but I normally shift right after 8K because I am close and my power curve goes flat at about 8K anyway. I haven't heard anything about needing a new oil pump with DIC's but I can get an rsx pump I'm guessing?
Supporting mods are:
Rick spec'd intake
invidia header
q300 exhaust
soon to be j35 TB and RRC manifold
Flashpro of course

aLmk

Discussion Starter · #223 · Dec 31, 2011

jsocks014 said:
reasons? other than they are cheaper. To my understanding the Kelford's are more aggressive, almost a stage 2. While they are more expensive it may be worth it offering more mid range and if I decide to upgrade valve train some day the Kelfords will respond better to that than TSX cams

My rev limit right now is 8600 but I normally shift right after 8K because I am close and my power curve goes flat at about 8K anyway. I haven't heard anything about needing a new oil pump with DIC's but I can get an rsx pump I'm guessing?
Supporting mods are:
Rick spec'd intake
invidia header
q300 exhaust
soon to be j35 TB and RRC manifold
Flashpro of course

I only suggested TSX for ease. But if you plan to upgrade later in the future go with these.

jsocks014

· #224 · Dec 31, 2011

kinda what I was figuring but I didn't specify that in my other post. I just can't justify/spend 2k for cams/valvetrain upgrade. At that point I would just S/C. But I figured if I went with a more aggressive DIC like these and decided to upgrade valvetrain someday they would still respond. I wish there were more dyno and power making info on this site. If I am missing it, someone please refer me to that info haha

aLmk

Discussion Starter · #225 · Dec 31, 2011

IIRC I saw the TSX cams on a nice, other wise stock motor, n/a setup make right around 240whp. Thats a good amount for an essentially stock motor with just bolt ons. Also you have OEM reliability and you definitely won't have any issues that might arise from getting after market cams. Just my .02

jsocks014

· #226 · Dec 31, 2011

I kinda wanna hit 250 whp if I get that close though haha. I do like reliability as it is my only car right now and for the next few years so I can't afford down time. I'm just kind of torn between if the extra $300ish is worth it over TSX cams

Strate L O S S

· #227 · Dec 31, 2011

you won't hit 250

jsocks014

· #228 · Dec 31, 2011

I know but if I did get that close I would want to do something to get to 250 is what I'm saying. Of course the car would get around pretty quick at that point so I would satisfy myself for a while

aLmk

Discussion Starter · #229 · Dec 31, 2011

IDK, but I'd say get the tsx cams since its your only car.

Steveocivcisi

· #230 · Dec 31, 2011

I have so much to learn before I go get cams. Civic Si's have 3 right?

J/K I know we have 4. hehehe

But seriously
Thanks for all the information everyone. This thread was a good start. Now to look up all these acronyms. :/

aLmk

Discussion Starter · #231 · Dec 31, 2011

We have 2....

08Sivic

· #232 · Dec 31, 2011

Mmmm kelford 179-a's. Cant wait to see how much a supercharger loves them

jsocks014

· #233 · Jan 1, 2012

another ?, do you use the stock cam gears for TSX or any aftermarket cams?

fid3L

· #234 · Jan 1, 2012

yup

Strate L O S S

· #235 · Jan 1, 2012

jsocks014 said:
I know but if I did get that close I would want to do something to get to 250 is what I'm saying. Of course the car would get around pretty quick at that point so I would satisfy myself for a while

like what ?

what is there to do after cams and boltons ?

you wont hit 250 with those cams.

jsocks014

· #236 · Jan 1, 2012 (Edited)

port the IM and TB more? k24 bottom end? I dunno, I haven't gotten that far yet but if I can see really good gains from the cams, RRC, and j35 then I will most likely be happy with the power and feel of the car. Whatever those numbers end up being I will be happy as the car should run what mid 13's? with a good run once I get into dragging/tracking the car if I want

Strate L O S S

· #237 · Jan 1, 2012

if you're going to drag the car you need more revs not less.

get rsx oil pump and the oem spring combo for the same money and set flashpro for 9000rpm.

IDK man

you can also skip the rrc j35 combo and just use that to fund the springs to go with these cams and rev high

jsocks014

· #238 · Jan 1, 2012

what OEM spring combo are you referring too? After getting the manifold, cams, and injectors my next purchase was going to be a rsx oil pump

It's not going to be a religious track car or anything, just if a group of friends go or something and I can actually compete with some of their cars now haha

0720Steve

· #239 · Jan 1, 2012

the dual spring setup. i believe these are the numbers.

Dished retainer - 14765-PRB-A01
Yellow outer spring - 14761-PCX-003
Red inner spring - 14752-PRB-A01

and then i have seen something else about jdm green valve seals.....tryin to find that number too. i am looking to do the valvetrain combo for myself as well on top of my boltons/tsx cams. i have an oem parts upgrade package with the rrc, tsx cams, tsx tb, etc. all the oem stuff. i like it.

jsocks014

· #240 · Jan 1, 2012

so they are a OEM Honda/Acura spring set up just more durable than stock SI's to safely rev higher?

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