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at:After reading the DIY in the thread mentioned above I am still a little confused. Has anyone else attempted this? Unfortunately the DIY is a cut and paste from another forum "HondaPartsDeals" and the poster "Avenger" has not attempted the mod, also the original writer of the how to "CivicMania" from the HOndaPartsDeals forum is unreachable. If anyone if familiar with this individual and knows a forum where they frequent please let me know.
OK I have an update on this. I have been doing a lot of searching and reading and thanks to dpnvektor who has a link to electrical diagrams in the automatic climate control thread I think I have an answer. To complete the steering wheel audio control mod you need to purchase the control assembly 36770-SNA-A11 (2006) or 36770-SNA-A12 (2007). I don't think there is a difference between the two parts but they have different numbers. Next you need to install the 2 wires missing from vehicles without steering wheel audio controls. Basically you need to run 2 wires from the connector at the steering wheel to the connector at the audio unit. Here are some pictures of the connectors in question.
Steering Wheel Connector
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Audio Unit Connector
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The view of these connectors is from the back. So following the DIY posted in the link above you would need to remove the upper portion of the steering column shroud and the portion of the dash surrounding the audio unit/climate controls. Instead of purchasing the EX wiring harness and cutting/splicing wires together you only need to run the 2 wires shown from one connector to the other. This is all in theory for now as I haven't had the time to attempt this yet but I see no reason why it won't work. If anyone attempts this before me let me know how you make out.
Steering Wheel Connector
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Audio Unit Connector
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The view of these connectors is from the back. So following the DIY posted in the link above you would need to remove the upper portion of the steering column shroud and the portion of the dash surrounding the audio unit/climate controls. Instead of purchasing the EX wiring harness and cutting/splicing wires together you only need to run the 2 wires shown from one connector to the other. This is all in theory for now as I haven't had the time to attempt this yet but I see no reason why it won't work. If anyone attempts this before me let me know how you make out.
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I would love to put this theory to the test but Canadian Honda dealers want a rediculous amount of money for the control switches, $125 up here compared to $50 in the US. Anyone want to buy a set of controls and ship them to me? I have tried all of the online dealers and there is no way to avoid all of the duties, taxes and brokerage fees involved with buying from them. However an individual could purchase them and ship them as a gift valued at less than $20, this would eliminate all of the fees involved with cross border shopping. I would be happy to pay for the part and shipping via paypal.
I'm looking to do it on my 07 LX sedan. I have ordered the part and it is being shipped to my uncle in Florida. He is returning to Canada (he spends the winters there) at the end of the month so I will do the install and "how to" guide at that time. If you do it before me shoot me a PM or report back here.
I will be picking up the new audio/cruise controls on Sunday. I should start on this either Sunday or Monday. I don't think the procedure is complicated but a few things will have to be removed to do the job. Don't worry I will document the procedure very well and take lots of pictures.:thumb:
Part # is in post #7 of page 1. It is the only part you need. I ordered mine from Majestic Honda online and had it shipped to a family member in Florida who brought it back last week. Most online parts places will not ship to Canada and if they do it is rediculously expensive for such a small part that you are better of buying it in Canada. Honda dealers in Canada sell it for $110.
Official How To
OK here we go. I'm not going to go into detail about how to take apart the dash . There is a great description with pictures found HERE. I will however emphasize that you must disconnect the battery negative, DO NOT attempt this mod without disconnecting the battery because you will be removing the driver's side airbag.
Once you have the dash apart the next thing to do is remove the steering wheel airbag. To do this you need to undo each of the Torx screws, one on each side of the steering wheel. While you are doing this remove the 2 Philips screws on each side that secure the audio/cruise control trim piece.
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Now that the screws are out the next thing to do is disconnect the electrical connections for the air bag and wiring harness. The connectors are found on the underside of the steering wheel behind a removable trim piece.
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Once these connections are undone you can pull the air bag forward and remove it. Now tou need to remove the remaining screws securing the trim piece as well as disconnecting the remaining connector.
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Here is the removed trim piece with the wiring from the existing cruise controls.
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This is the back side of the trim where the audio controls will be installed. First you need to remove the 2 Philips screws on each side that secure the existing cruise controls and the blank where the audio controls will go.
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Here is a picture of the old and new control harnesses
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And the new controls installed in the trim piece.
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Everything on the steering wheel put back together the reverse of how it came apart.
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Now on to the hard part JK:laughing:
Next you need to remove the upper steering colum shroud. I still have not figered a way to do this without breaking the little plastic snaps that holds it together but a bit of super glue puts them back together.
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If you choose to you can remove the bottom piece as well, it is held on by 3 Philips screws. If you are like me you will have to do this to glue the broken pieces back together. With the shroud removed you now have easy access to the steering wheel wiring connector which I forgot to take a picture of prior to installing my wiring harness. Speaking of which it is now time to destroy one wiring harness and make another. From the old cruise control harness you need to steal 4 female pins. They look like this when removed.
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The old wiring harness will look like this. Notice the plastic is peeled back. The pins lock into position when installed so they are hard to remove. You can either peel the plastic back or use a small screw driver (eyeglass) and hammer them out from the front.
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The pins will be used to make the new connections at the steerig wheel connector and the radio connector like this. You can refer to my diagram on the fist page of this thread for pinout locations but steering wheel is 3&4 radio is 6&7. For ease of installation I use red/pink and green/green wires from the old harness to make it easier to remember which wire went were, I also labeled everything. They can be hard to push into the new slots and may require the help of a screw driver pushing them to get them all the way in. Notice that they should only go in one way, make sure to install them the right side up, just mimic the existing ones.
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Next you need to make a wiring harness to connect the new plugs. This harness needs to be at least 24" long 30" would be better. This allows enough slack when putting everything back together.
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Wiring harness installed.
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Now you are ready to test. Reconnect the radio and all harness connections, have your security code ready. Reconnect the battery negative and turn the ignition to the accessory position II. You shoul now have to turn the radio on by pressing the power button, enter your code and test the steering wheel controls. If everthing is fine start to put everything back together and enjoy.
OK here we go. I'm not going to go into detail about how to take apart the dash . There is a great description with pictures found HERE. I will however emphasize that you must disconnect the battery negative, DO NOT attempt this mod without disconnecting the battery because you will be removing the driver's side airbag.
Once you have the dash apart the next thing to do is remove the steering wheel airbag. To do this you need to undo each of the Torx screws, one on each side of the steering wheel. While you are doing this remove the 2 Philips screws on each side that secure the audio/cruise control trim piece.
Now that the screws are out the next thing to do is disconnect the electrical connections for the air bag and wiring harness. The connectors are found on the underside of the steering wheel behind a removable trim piece.
Once these connections are undone you can pull the air bag forward and remove it. Now tou need to remove the remaining screws securing the trim piece as well as disconnecting the remaining connector.
Here is the removed trim piece with the wiring from the existing cruise controls.
This is the back side of the trim where the audio controls will be installed. First you need to remove the 2 Philips screws on each side that secure the existing cruise controls and the blank where the audio controls will go.
Here is a picture of the old and new control harnesses
And the new controls installed in the trim piece.
Everything on the steering wheel put back together the reverse of how it came apart.
Now on to the hard part JK:laughing:
Next you need to remove the upper steering colum shroud. I still have not figered a way to do this without breaking the little plastic snaps that holds it together but a bit of super glue puts them back together.
If you choose to you can remove the bottom piece as well, it is held on by 3 Philips screws. If you are like me you will have to do this to glue the broken pieces back together. With the shroud removed you now have easy access to the steering wheel wiring connector which I forgot to take a picture of prior to installing my wiring harness. Speaking of which it is now time to destroy one wiring harness and make another. From the old cruise control harness you need to steal 4 female pins. They look like this when removed.
The old wiring harness will look like this. Notice the plastic is peeled back. The pins lock into position when installed so they are hard to remove. You can either peel the plastic back or use a small screw driver (eyeglass) and hammer them out from the front.
The pins will be used to make the new connections at the steerig wheel connector and the radio connector like this. You can refer to my diagram on the fist page of this thread for pinout locations but steering wheel is 3&4 radio is 6&7. For ease of installation I use red/pink and green/green wires from the old harness to make it easier to remember which wire went were, I also labeled everything. They can be hard to push into the new slots and may require the help of a screw driver pushing them to get them all the way in. Notice that they should only go in one way, make sure to install them the right side up, just mimic the existing ones.
Next you need to make a wiring harness to connect the new plugs. This harness needs to be at least 24" long 30" would be better. This allows enough slack when putting everything back together.
Wiring harness installed.
Now you are ready to test. Reconnect the radio and all harness connections, have your security code ready. Reconnect the battery negative and turn the ignition to the accessory position II. You shoul now have to turn the radio on by pressing the power button, enter your code and test the steering wheel controls. If everthing is fine start to put everything back together and enjoy.
Easy for me may not be easy for you but on a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say this is a 4. It only requires minimal electrical skill i.e. strip wires and crimp fittings, doesn't get much easier than that. BTW I can see the pics fine they are 800 x 600.ct20 said:
I don't see any difference in the wiring harnesses from the schematics that I have but someone may want to go to a dealer that has each part in stock and compare them.bridugcox said:
The schematics that I have only show that they are for EX and Si they don't say 2 or 4 door, but if I'm correct the Si is only a 2 door.
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