So I have been considering swapping a k20A running on kpro off a 06+ FD2R and going with a S/C at a near point, I wanted to open this thread, just to see how the Si (stock or s-/c) would be compared against the listed cars, to have a better idea if it's worth the big cash i'm gonig to spend.
Here is all the cars that i frequently see on the track, all are the new model cars and are stock, except if I/H/E was mentioned.
-Toyota camry 6cyl A/T
-Toyota Aurion 6cyl A/T
-Nissan Altima v6 A/T
-Mustang GT v8 A/T
-Dodge charger A/T
-Nissan 350z I/H/E A/T and M/T
-Mazda6 6cyl A/T
-Golf GTI MKV
I would have looked at the TQ/HP numbers, but there is other factors that can play a rule here.
Important note: this is not your regular dreaming teenager thread, i have already started searching and calling shops and i'm almost decided on swapping during the summer vacation, your support and help are highly needed and appreciated, thank you.
I don't know how much help you're going to get here. Check out Car & Driver, or Mototrend for reviews and maybe comparisons of some of the vehicles. You could also try forums for the cars mentioned.
I will be doing that too, but I just though that some of you guys might have witnessed a race or heard something or can figure out the comparison from experience.
I'm absolutely searching and reading a lot before I attempt this and the thread is just a part of it.
Assuming those cars are all stock (except when otherwise noted) and your car would have the mods oyu mentioned... then I would think that the only ones you'd have ot worry about would be:
Seeing as you said you're going for a k20a swap + kpro, I honestly have no idea how much you're going to gain so I can't comment on how you'll do against these. My k20z3 has the ct stage 1, and it's fast enough for me heh.
Assuming your talking about the new generations Accords, Altima SER, Camry that are pushing over the 220+hp and not the old generations that are under the 200hp. They got tq, and run in the 14's consistantly stock autos.
still stifling that you are going to spend $20,000 to gain 100-125 whp. At best thats 160/hp.
if you want a supercharger definitely over a custom turbo
custom manifold, twin screw, haltech ecu. >>>>>>>>>>> k20z3 with ctsc.
you could have 2 boost settings, 1 that makes you run comparable to the ct kit and one that makes you laugh at any of the cars above among many, many faster cars.
I know people in straight jackets that have made better decisions. I'm not trying to be a ****, just trying to show you that there are farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr better ways to mod your car regardless.
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I really have no experience at all in turbos or internals modifications and no one here is going to help me with anything, I'm going to drive for like 4 hours to do the swap and the supercharger, also i'm not sure if I know anything about maintaing a turbo and I rather know everything about my car, not just ask to get the turbo installed and tuned with me only paying the cash.
Believe me, i would love to have a better setup, if you have some links or websites that would educate me about this better, then it would be a different thing, i know that learning can't be without actual experience, but knowing something is better than totally depending on someone who just wants to make money.
guy named andrew at my work has a modded charger with 305 to the wheels and 340tq. i still pull on him. prob is there 4200 pounds... now the srt8.s unless there stock we won't have a chance.
however i aggree with hondacare if your gonna spend all that cash why not just make a custom turbo kit and get double the power you would with the charger.
lol? you joking right? they have 0 chance. i have 8 less hp to my wheels then they have to the crank and i have hundreds of pounds less. accords are a joke.
i dunno i think from a roll a full bolt on stage 1 wouldn't lose by tooo much. maybe a car or 2. might even be a drivers race. i've seen anywhere from 13.2-13.8 for srt quarter mile times.. from a roll however its very hard to F up so you would have a 12 sec car rolling vs you everytime since theres no traction issues... but i've seen a bolt on stage 1 SI hit 13.1 too so i think it might be a drivers race.. i would think from a roll we could hang with 12.9 sec cars too since we dont worry about traction either.
still thats not bad considering the power diff. i might get flamed for saying this but i think once stage 3 is out you'd pull on the srt8. a stock one of course.
in all fairness the srt chargers weigh 600 pounds more then a mustang
although i agree the srt should win. it would be a drivers race imo. and a stage 3 blower once its out would eat it alive... now if the srt had any mods.. prob not gonna happen.
srt8's have around 360whp at 4300pounds.. vs our 260whp at 3000. its not THAT far off.
mustangs with full bolt ons are capable of 12'.s 240whp si's are not.
i doubt i could hit a 12 and i have 260whp. maybe with slicks. but the mustang could do it all day long with full bolt ons.. v8's gain a hell of a lot of power from a set of headers a true cat back and an intake with a chip.
ctr only makes 23hp more then us. lol. its nearly the same. and the same exact power can be made FI. i think our cars are more FI friendly imo due to compression and there cams are too aggressive for FI imo.
Also, could someone direct me to the thread that listed the needed parts and mounts for the swap? maybe there is something that I need to know in the replays, I can't find it anymore.
Hondacare, I have signed up in honda tech and started going through threads, however i cant find the threads that explain the basics that i need to know and the members dont seem very helpful.
I have searched before for superchargers for the fd2, looks like people are getting average of 270-275 with a stage 1, which is very impressive and that is without the kpro.
No one take my word for this, im not 100% sure about those dynos, since I am swapping, I would rather go with what would work better F/I, your statement made me thinking and it requires a lot of searching.
you need to find a shop/tuner and ask them for advice. if its 4 hours away, then it's 4 hours away. searching is not what you need. learning is what you need and that doesn't happen overnight.
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