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alot lol
HONDATA RELEASES full tuning!!
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What sucks about the eManage and why doesn't this suck?
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This may sound like a dumb question but am I going to really need to get the flashpro from Hondata if I get the stage 2 reflash with the kit? How much better could it get since Hondata will have already worked there magic on my ecu specifically for the CT-E stage 2?
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emanage is a piggy back and pretty much fights with the stock ECU over control of the car, this will flash your stock ECU with a custom tune, no extra wires in the engine bay, and access to more feature like cam angles and things like that
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eManage does not allow you to alter vtec, vtc, rev limit etc...
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Let's see what the first couple of cars running this go, then I'll decide to make the jump.
Seems like this is what we've been waiting for, but cheaper than what K-Pro costs? I'm guessing it will not be as good as K-Pro (maybe I'm wrong) but as long as this provides and help us have a more reasonable tune than what we can get from the E-Manage, I will be very happy!
Seems like this is what we've been waiting for, but cheaper than what K-Pro costs? I'm guessing it will not be as good as K-Pro (maybe I'm wrong) but as long as this provides and help us have a more reasonable tune than what we can get from the E-Manage, I will be very happy!
you could expect another 10-15whp with no other changes other then getting a professional tune with the flashpro vs the reflash.
it will be set up 100% for your car at your altitude and be able to change more factors then the reflash.
IF it can do what i think it can. llike kpro does.
only hondata could answer that correctly though.
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a lot of people are talking about this...
the reflash is optimized for the CT stgII...I suspect if you bought the flashpro on top of everything you had you probably wouldn't be able to get much more power out of your setup without compromising reliability...
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one main reason it is cheaper is that with KPro they had to modify your stock ECU to accept the changes, with this nothing is done to your stock ECU, hell you never even have to remove it
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Think of it this way. with the CT-E stage 2 it comes with just a reflash so that your car runs fine without problems which is done to your stock ECU Flash pro is a plug and play systems where you will be able to Tune your car adjusting different features. This is why if you want to get Flash Pro to further max out the performance of your car they are going to credit you $150 dollars to upgrade from the Reflash ---->>>Flash Pro. :thumb:
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Yeah, but why didn't they do that with the RSX? There has to be a reason behind it, maybe less features?
Oh well, we will see what happens when this is realeased!
rsx guys are running the 3.15 pulley just like us only there making 300whp and above. with just kpro as the difference. and many of them choose rc 650's instead of the ct injectors.
stage 2 was hitting around 287 if i remember hondata's website dynos.
thats a big difference. the reflash can't control cam angles and ignition as well as kpro or the flashpro so there is more power to be made imo.
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yes they said it does lose some features, but with the Si the ECU controls so much of the car, with the dash and other things that this was simply the best way
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on their site hondata says there are certain k-pro features that will not be available through the reflashpro...I'm still trying to figure out what they are
as far as why this didn't come out for the RSX, the r&d for k-pro was essentially finding a way to make the S-series methodology work inside a k motor's ECM
once the new CAN protocols came out a new system had to be developed...
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Thanks for the discussion guy's!
I think I'll just go ahead with the stg 2 and the reflash for it and then if later on peeps are finding out the flashpro is adding significant increases in performance above and beyond the reflash then I can always get it.
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"Hondata:
If I answered in the thread it would get lost.
The reason for the setting of the date for the CT stage 2 upgrade for next week was for us to prepare for this release.
This was to allow you the choice of the reflash upgrade or waiting for the FlashPro.
Doug"
i totally understand this and i and many otheres would have chosen the Flashpro
but we were part of a presale that started a month ago before any release dates were official for either stage 2 OR the flashpro.
i tried to pm this back to you but your pms are disabled. sorry.
i just want to divert the 475 i spent on the presale for the reflash only towards the flashpro and i'll happily pay the difference.
i think thats fair since i havent even sent you guys my ecu yet. and this would be my 3rd reflash i've paid for already anyway.
If I answered in the thread it would get lost.
The reason for the setting of the date for the CT stage 2 upgrade for next week was for us to prepare for this release.
This was to allow you the choice of the reflash upgrade or waiting for the FlashPro.
Doug"
i totally understand this and i and many otheres would have chosen the Flashpro
but we were part of a presale that started a month ago before any release dates were official for either stage 2 OR the flashpro.
i tried to pm this back to you but your pms are disabled. sorry.
i just want to divert the 475 i spent on the presale for the reflash only towards the flashpro and i'll happily pay the difference.
i think thats fair since i havent even sent you guys my ecu yet. and this would be my 3rd reflash i've paid for already anyway.
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