[lessthanwise]

I'm wondering how much control we'll have over the i-vtec...

 

[lessthanwise]

 

[lessthanwise]

he probably works there...

the above picture is from Hondata's website

 

[lessthanwise]

Oh lawdy is dat some programmable ecu?

technically a user-definable reflashing system...but yeah, it pretty much looks to give you full control of the ECM...

Hondata, you mention features from k-pro which won't be available through the reflasher...which features would those be?

 

[lessthanwise]

That isn't true at all. People do tune AccessPorts. Two shops here in the Chicago area tune them. I know people that had them dyno-tuned.

I'm pretty sure you have to be a dealer to get access to their software. This is available to everyone for less than 1000$

 

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Ill stay with Cobb. Ive used there product before. And ive used kpro. Its funny the worpship of a company product, because its the only product available for the specific use. Cobb will have the same ability to tune your car fro ma laptop. its just a different method. Its like hp tuners for gm. Praise HP TUNERS! Oh godz. Its the only tuning we have! Blaaahaa! The handheld from whodata looks liek you have to have that plugged into a computer while using, which is lame. The accessport is all inclusive and prettier. I am also not a fan of Hondata's buisness ventures with other automotive developers. Just my .02

Wehn i hear, "lock it in" or "send ecu" its not a good time for me. I dunno. Even thoguh this little reflasher doesnt need to be sent back or locked... unless you want a discount from your reflash. lol

Cobb does not distribute the software to make reflashes for accessport to the general public. The accessport unit is just as unusable as flashpro without a laptop. Chances are the flashpro unit will not tune more than one car at once. Which is perfectly fair and understandable.

 

[lessthanwise]

somebody answer my question plz

that's what the big pretty picture is all about...

 

[lessthanwise]

more like now we can run a twin-charged k26 with a gt40r and a CTSC...

 

[lessthanwise]

This sucks for the guys with the Reflash. I still think the people with the Reflash should get a better discount than $150.

those people were perfectly happy with their purchases until they found out that something better had come along. they're just mad that they don't get to be the coolest kids on the road for very long....

 

[lessthanwise]

the maps will be saved on your laptop, the flashpro is just an orifice for data...and not just data...honda data...

 

[lessthanwise]

yeah, that's the deal...assumeably (hopefully without making an ass out of you or myself) when you load a non-stock flash from your laptop to the flashpro the flashpro won't write again to any other ECM until you reset the one you're working with to stock...

now if you wanted to be a sneaky bastard...you could flashpro your ECM, datalog everything, reset it to stock then buy a piggyback and mimic the settings...

I myself plan on running both a f/ic 8 and flashpro

 

[lessthanwise]

due to the lack of a display on the flashpro unit I'm guessing you'll need the laptop to switch maps...

 

[lessthanwise]

i wonder if it will control the bypass valve of my supercharger and allow boost by gear.

I have the sneaking suspicion that they're going to tell you to buy a f/ic 8 if you want reliable boost control...seeing as how the stock ECM has no provisions for a boost controller, you're going to need a device to communicate between any boost controlling apparatus you'd have and the stock ECM...

 

[lessthanwise]

the thing is...If you read the description on the flashpro and the discount for people that already have the reflash...What would be the point of sending your ecu in and locking it to your car if the flashpro already locks it to a car to begin with? explain that....thats why I think you can use on multiple cars....

so the FedEx guy can't steal your flashpro. the only people that are sending in their ECMs are people that already have hondata reflases. you can use the device on any car, but you won't be able to load maps from a single unit to more than one car at a time. otherwise they'd be struggling to sell them...

 

[lessthanwise]

See, my understanding is, you will be able to use it on multiple cars....And the reasoning behind sending your ecu in to lock it to one car is so people can't share the reflash...I mean there would be no point to send it in if it already locked to your car when you begin to use it...

you'll be able to use it on multiple cars, just not at the same time. as far as why they offer to lock the unit to your ECM while you're sending your ECM back I'm scratching my head as well. the only thing I can think of is that it's either time consuming to lock the unit or else it's just an anti-theft measure...?

 

[lessthanwise]

its 150 off the price...and the flashpro gets locked to your ecu only...

I don't know about the 'only' part...hondata hasn't said that anywhere...let's wait and see till we learn more about the locking process before we jump to more conclusions without a jump to conclusions mat.

 

[lessthanwise]

dood its just like cobb you can only use it on one ecu not on one car at a time.

I don't really see them making something you can't re-sell...although perhaps you may have to send your flashpro back in to be revirginized...we'll see...your guess is as good as mine

 

[lessthanwise]

^^^I was wondering what you meant as well zeuceone