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Ok so i've been wanting to buy an HID conversion kit for my 07 si sedan, and i was looking around for what color i stumbled upon new acronyms and new words. Now i'm more stuck than ever could somebody give me some idea what these things are, pnp, cutoff, retrofits, and i think im missing some. just add it on to the response if you think i am. Also some advice on hid conversion kits. Thanks in advance
 

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Regarding to the context about automobile lighting.....

PnP - Plug-and-Play. Different people may interpret it differently, but for me, as long as you don't need to cut/splice any OEM wires, and you don't need to fabricate anything to get it fit, it is PnP. When talking about PnP HID kit, we usually referring to the kit which come with a pair of ballasts which can be connected to the OEM wire directly, then the bulb can just put into the OEM headlight bulb hole (9006 in out case for low beam).

Cutoff - The horizontal divider between full intensity light below and complete darkness above. The cutoff from OEM reflector is very soft, with a lot of light bleeding above it. The cutoff from a proper setup projector with clear projection lens will be very sharp, which give you all the usable light below that cutoff line, and almost complete darkness above that line. It is important because you want to have most of the light from your headlight on the road with far distance, but at the same time it won't shine on the face of the driver coming from opposite direction, and whoever driving in front of you and blind by your light reflected in their mirror.

Retrofit - A process to put something into your headlight/foglight, usually is projectors, but it can also referring to other stuff like LEDs. Usually it involve some cutting and drilling, and used to require exceptional skills to get it right, but there is a new breed of projectors appear recently which allow inexperienced people to get high quality retrofit job done with a lot higher chance to success.

Definitely not everything about your questions, but I guess this is a good start and other peoples will tell you more.
 

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So in order not to have alot of glare I need a good cutoff? If so how does one manage to get a good cutoff?
 

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If all your looking for is yellow 3k, white 43k-5K, blue 6k-8K, purple 10k+ headlights they you want a pnp (plug-n-play) HID kit and they are sold all over the place.


But if your concerned about cutoff then your looking at a retrofit alot more expensive then just a pnp hid kit but they are worth it.

This is a photo of a headlight with a plug and play hid kit thanks to (truflip)


This is a photo of a retrofitted headlights thanks to me


There is a big difference when it comes to cutoff when comparing between a stock headlight with a pnp hid kit and a headlight thats been retrofitted with projectors and a pnp hid kit.

Hope that sort of clears up some confusion.
 

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These guys just about answered all my questions im sure what youre lookign for can be found here. I do however have one more question, where do i buy projectors from? any good websites? oh and also if I get the pnp hid kit i can just buy the projectors later and put the same pnp kit on the projectors? or how does that work?
 

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I do however have one more question, where do i buy projectors from? any good websites?
TheRetrofitSource.com is one of the famous website, but for most items they are a bit pricey. Well, their customer support is excellent though.

Ebay is another channel, usually they are overprice, but if you are lucky you may able to found someone price an item wrong and found a bargain.

The best way I think is looking into various forums and see what peoples selling there. usually the price on items selling by forum members are more reasonable.

But no matter what, you need to be pretty dedicate and spend a lot of time to found the best items for your money, or pay premium if you are the type of person who want to get something now, or lazy. :)

oh and also if I get the pnp hid kit i can just buy the projectors later and put the same pnp kit on the projectors? or how does that work?
Usually you can reuse the ballasts from the PnP kit. If you choose OEM projectors, most of the time they are using D2S bulb and you will need to purchase a AMP to D2S adapter in order to connect the ballasts to the D2S bulb. If you choose something like the mini H1 projector, which using H1 HID bulb, then you can plug the bulb directly to the PnP ballasts.
 

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The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications
You can buy parts here and do the work yourself. But from the questions you've been asking it doesn't sound like you would know how. Not saying you couldn't learn....Its just the parts are pretty expensive if you mess up.

As for a pnp hid kit they all come with 3 main parts (1)Bulbs, (2)Ballasts, and the (3)pnp wires. The only part that you would need to buy if you have already purchased a hid kit are replacement bulbs to fit whatever projector you buy.

example1: I had an old hid kit in my fogs the bulbs were H11's when I had them retrofitted with es300 projectors i had to get a different size bulb but but reused the ballast, and wires.

example2: With my headlights I went with a quad setup (or projectors in both my high and low beam areas). I used fx35-r projector which use the d2s bulbs so what I had to do is purchase new d2s bulbs, adapters (for attaching the bulbs to the ballasts because the d2s bulbs are OEM bulbs not universal pnp hid kit bulbs) and because the fx35-r projectors are Bixenon Projectors I also had to buy a new wiring harness. But was still able to reuse the ballasts.

If your serious about getting a retrofit then you want to talk to someone how really knows there stuff so go here.
Contact - Custom Lightz - The HID Headlight Projector Retrofit & Parts Specialist

This is were I had my lights retrofitted. A++ work and he carries all the parts you could ask for. When I got my headlights retrofitted all I had to do is send him my headlights and he did everything else.
 

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alright so i got a tricky question. Lets say i get a hold of projectors from a tsx, BMW, Mercedes, or any car that has projectors can is it just the same as ordering retrofits?
 

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The projectors would be what's needed for a retrofit along with a shroud. But, you need to retrofit your headlamp to fit the projector and its not plug n play
 

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alright so i got a tricky question. Lets say i get a hold of projectors from a tsx, BMW, Mercedes, or any car that has projectors can is it just the same as ordering retrofits?

no cause if you just have projectors your missing pieces. Plus you still gotta retrofit your stock headlights to get them fit and look good.

Your gonna need

Ballasts:

Bulbs:

Projectors:

Shrouds:

Wire Harness:

If you buy all these parts you can get started tearing into you stock headlights. I think that answers your questions if not ask this guy -Bionic- just look him up.
 

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Ok I shouldve elaborated some, what I meant to say was if I got ahold of all the parts from those said cars will they work on the civic? Because I haven't seen specific parts for vehicles. Like the ballasts, shrouds, wire harness, etc.
 

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alright so i got a tricky question. Lets say i get a hold of projectors from a tsx, BMW, Mercedes, or any car that has projectors can is it just the same as ordering retrofits?
Ok I shouldve elaborated some, what I meant to say was if I got ahold of all the parts from those said cars will they work on the civic? Because I haven't seen specific parts for vehicles. Like the ballasts, shrouds, wire harness, etc.
yes and no. the tsx and s2000 projectors are best due to their size(2.5",fit inside civic headlights) and output. beemers are 3" and may not fit. i'm not sure about benzs.
 

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Even you brought all the parts from one car (not a 8th gen civic), you still need someone (or yourself) to put those parts into the headlight of your civic, and make all the electronic connections. So, to answer your question, yes, the parts will work, but you will need to do some work to make it work inside your car.
 
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