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This is a f_cking Retarded Business ethic.. Sure we will 'drop' the price for an unreasonable upgrade in Price. Oh but it doesnt matter still comes out to 300$ shipped we dropped the price of the traction balls, but now it cost more to ship... YEAH Awesome guys over @ FULL-RAPE not to mention ******* shitty customer service WHERE IS MY TRACKING NUMBER since you'd like not to respond to email.

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Your order was shipped out the same day of purchase. We are not open on Saturdays which is why I didnt respond to you until this morning. Check your email. I apologize but have zero access to our software over the weekend to check for your tracking info.


This is a f_cking Retarded Business ethic.. Sure we will 'drop' the price for an unreasonable upgrade in Price. Oh but it doesnt matter still comes out to 300$ shipped we dropped the price of the traction balls, but now it cost more to ship... YEAH Awesome guys over @ FULL-RAPE not to mention ******* shitty customer service WHERE IS MY TRACKING NUMBER since you'd like not to respond to email.

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my *only* issue is that the early adopters really didnt come out ahead at all.
We (the early adopters) are paying the full price even after the finalized change in product, and actually in a sense behind now due to some of us having to install/reinstall the new product. Most of us dont have a 8+ ton hydraulic press handy to use, so we're having to pay for labor TWICE. Now I'm not saying that Full race is responsible for labor costs, because they aren't. But as an early adopter, and customer loyalty/faith in FR bringing good products to the bench, this is where customer service shines/wanes in a big way. The early adopters are your most hardcore/loyal customers. You (FR) keep selling your brand as a top of the line brand. If you sell a sub-par product to your most loyal/excited customers, wouldn't you want to satisfy them since they will be the ones that speak about your product the most? Good reviews = FREE advertising. Bad reviews is still advertising, but customer service can make up for that.

TY for the tips on managing the traction balls. it's definitely appreciated, but see above comments for a happier experience.
 

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my *only* issue is that the early adopters really didnt come out ahead at all.
We (the early adopters) are paying the full price even after the finalized change in product, and actually in a sense behind now due to some of us having to install/reinstall the new product. Most of us dont have a 8+ ton hydraulic press handy to use, so we're having to pay for labor TWICE. Now I'm not saying that Full race is responsible for labor costs, because they aren't. But as an early adopter, and customer loyalty/faith in FR bringing good products to the bench, this is where customer service shines/wanes in a big way. The early adopters are your most hardcore/loyal customers. You (FR) keep selling your brand as a top of the line brand. If you sell a sub-par product to your most loyal/excited customers, wouldn't you want to satisfy them since they will be the ones that speak about your product the most? Good reviews = FREE advertising. Bad reviews is still advertising, but customer service can make up for that.

TY for the tips on managing the traction balls. it's definitely appreciated, but see above comments for a happier experience.
Agree with this statement %100
 

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Last I'll make mention of this in this thread, ...


... Chris and my issue IS NOT related to the motor mounts.

I checked every motor mount, and everything was how it should be. However, when I moved each front wheel, with the car in neutral, I did however feel a decent gap (or "play") between moving the wheel forwards and backwards. Which makes me think me and Chris' issue is transmission related. :shrug:

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if it isnt a mechanical issue as in, motor mounts its in the tune... it has to be...

whenl i was getting some tuning done i asked jay about everytime i let off the throttle in gears 1-3 it bucks like crazy... he did something in the tune and when i let off in those gears now i dont get any bucking.. in first its still there a little, but barely at all.... but before when i was fully bolted on with a base map it was like i was haveing a seizure my car bucked so bad, if i was light throttle in 1st and 2nd gear lmao
 

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First run with Traction balls at Mid Ohio was a good one. On turn in the car definately feels more stable and predictable. I keep mine pretty clean by blowing them out and blasting with wd 40 once a month or so. Easier to do when you have your wheels off at the track once a month. Reason to track your Auto#12...gives you a chance to clean and inspect parts!

here, check my lines, lol

http://youtu.be/YkKm4ncth0U
 

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Can anyone that has had these installed for a while chime in on how they're holding up. Either the old ones or new version but would prefer to hear from some people that have had the newer ones installed.

I'm looking to put these on my DD. It sees a fair share of rough roads on a daily basis and a few places with unavoidable jolting hits. Are these going to hold up with little maintenance, like a shot of wd-40 every oil change?

Any General feedback on this item would be much appreciated.
 

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I've had mine on my car since the first batch was released and mine are NOT the SS ones. The bearing is SS and is working 100% perfectly. Mine is rusted like everyone else but that's only the frame and bushings. They have no effect on the operation of the bearing at all. As long as the bearing itself is Stainless you should not have an issue. Mine still work perfectly. Not really sure why everyone is all bent because of a little cosmetic rust. Try living in MA near the ocean. Every single steel part on my car is rusted to hell. I need an an air hammer and 3 lb sledge just to remove my brake rotors every year. LOL!! You have to expect rust on some parts of you car guys. And it's not like your LCA bushing is in plain sight or is a show piece.

This type of crap is why I never really come on this site anymore. So many people whining about crap they really shouldn't be whining about and not having real expectations for stuff and just plain not knowing anything. If Geoff made these all out of SS from the start and the price was $500 everyone would be screaming that FR is a rip off. So ridiculous!!! But he made them as cost efficient as possible and now everyone is all bent that there is some cosmetic rust?? GET REAL!!
 

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I've had mine on my car since the first batch was released and mine are NOT the SS ones. The bearing is SS and is working 100% perfectly. Mine is rusted like everyone else but that's only the frame and bushings. They have no effect on the operation of the bearing at all. As long as the bearing itself is Stainless you should not have an issue. Mine still work perfectly. Not really sure why everyone is all bent because of a little cosmetic rust. Try living in MA near the ocean. Every single steel part on my car is rusted to hell. I need an an air hammer and 3 lb sledge just to remove my brake rotors every year. LOL!! You have to expect rust on some parts of you car guys. And it's not like your LCA bushing is in plain sight or is a show piece.

This type of crap is why I never really come on this site anymore. So many people whining about crap they really shouldn't be whining about and not having real expectations for stuff and just plain not knowing anything. If Geoff made these all out of SS from the start and the price was $500 everyone would be screaming that FR is a rip off. So ridiculous!!! But he made them as cost efficient as possible and now everyone is all bent that there is some cosmetic rust?? GET REAL!!
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Thanks for the replies. I'm going to pick these up as soon as funds are available. Might end up selling my GP exhaust to fund this part. The steering on my FA5 has been getting sloppy lately and I think the LCA bushing is suspect. Going to check those out asap.
 

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I've had mine on my car since the first batch was released and mine are NOT the SS ones. The bearing is SS and is working 100% perfectly. Mine is rusted like everyone else but that's only the frame and bushings. They have no effect on the operation of the bearing at all. As long as the bearing itself is Stainless you should not have an issue. Mine still work perfectly. Not really sure why everyone is all bent because of a little cosmetic rust. Try living in MA near the ocean. Every single steel part on my car is rusted to hell. I need an an air hammer and 3 lb sledge just to remove my brake rotors every year. LOL!! You have to expect rust on some parts of you car guys. And it's not like your LCA bushing is in plain sight or is a show piece.

This type of crap is why I never really come on this site anymore. So many people whining about crap they really shouldn't be whining about and not having real expectations for stuff and just plain not knowing anything. If Geoff made these all out of SS from the start and the price was $500 everyone would be screaming that FR is a rip off. So ridiculous!!! But he made them as cost efficient as possible and now everyone is all bent that there is some cosmetic rust?? GET REAL!!
Dude, people are going to get upset when they see their new part rusting away. Deal with it. We aren't all car techs (yeah, believe it or not, some of us would rather specialize in something else - do I get on you for not knowing the Krebs Cycle? No, of course not, that'd be ridiculous). When you throw down $200+ on a part and start seeing it rusting right away, the natural reaction is to get upset. People have since chilled out - what's your deal?
 

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I'm more worried about the bearing. Even some stainless rusts. We also haven't fully investigated the seal option that was presented to us.
 

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Glad to hear you are Enjoying them! You are correct that the bearing assembly is stainless and should have no issues with rust. Regardless, the newer version is stainless and won't have the issues that the first generation did.


I've had mine on my car since the first batch was released and mine are NOT the SS ones. The bearing is SS and is working 100% perfectly. Mine is rusted like everyone else but that's only the frame and bushings. They have no effect on the operation of the bearing at all. As long as the bearing itself is Stainless you should not have an issue. Mine still work perfectly. Not really sure why everyone is all bent because of a little cosmetic rust. Try living in MA near the ocean. Every single steel part on my car is rusted to hell. I need an an air hammer and 3 lb sledge just to remove my brake rotors every year. LOL!! You have to expect rust on some parts of you car guys. And it's not like your LCA bushing is in plain sight or is a show piece.

This type of crap is why I never really come on this site anymore. So many people whining about crap they really shouldn't be whining about and not having real expectations for stuff and just plain not knowing anything. If Geoff made these all out of SS from the start and the price was $500 everyone would be screaming that FR is a rip off. So ridiculous!!! But he made them as cost efficient as possible and now everyone is all bent that there is some cosmetic rust?? GET REAL!!
 

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Mine are working perfectly. The 0 wheel hop from these + Hasport mounts allowed me to smash on new 5.0 mustang from a dig. Worth the money imo.
 

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LOL I've got the full Hasport kit :facepalm:
check your rear hasport mount very well this is what i ended up with ..





the rear hasport mounts can fail .. i learned the hard way .. they replaced mine ( under warranty ) along with the motor / trans mount bushings that self destructed after the rear failed .. you could feel the buck worst on decel under light load ..
 
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