My car had just over 96,000 miles on it. After I noticed that the engine block was cracked, I called Honda and was also just 2 months out of the 10 year warranty. They wouldn't even budge an inch.

I work at an Apple service provider and their customer service is a lot better in this circumstance. I've had a customer come in and their computer had an issue with the logic board, which was covered under a quality program. We found out that the computer was just past the extended warranty and the customer bought the computer used, They called Apple customer support and they extended their coverage no big deal and we covered it under the quality program (The logic board is one of the most expensive parts in the computer as well). The reason why they do this is because they back their products, they want everyone that uses an Apple computer to recognize that the product is top quality as well as the customer service, where as Honda cared more about how much money i've paid them in the past and not about backing their vehicles or even offering good service.

It was rough for me as this was my first car I ever purchased and now i'm stuck with a broken car and a $6k loan that I can't pay off because Honda wouldn't extend it or back their vehicles.

Anyways, there are my frustrations. Glad to help with the experiences. I really would love for Honda to take a little bit of action and help us out as it wasn't our fault the engine blocks are cracking, but a poorly built engine that they should take a hit on.

 

My car had just over 96,000 miles on it. After I noticed that the engine block was cracked, I called Honda and was also just 2 months out of the 10 year warranty. They wouldn't even budge an inch.

I work at an Apple service provider and their customer service is a lot better in this circumstance. I've had a customer come in and their computer had an issue with the logic board, which was covered under a quality program. We found out that the computer was just past the extended warranty and the customer bought the computer used, They called Apple customer support and they extended their coverage no big deal and we covered it under the quality program (The logic board is one of the most expensive parts in the computer as well). The reason why they do this is because they back their products, they want everyone that uses an Apple computer to recognize that the product is top quality as well as the customer service, where as Honda cared more about how much money i've paid them in the past and not about backing their vehicles or even offering good service.

It was rough for me as this was my first car I ever purchased and now i'm stuck with a broken car and a $6k loan that I can't pay off because Honda wouldn't extend it or back their vehicles.

Anyways, there are my frustrations. Glad to help with the experiences. I really would love for Honda to take a little bit of action and help us out as it wasn't our fault the engine blocks are cracking, but a poorly built engine that they should take a hit on.

A thousand dollar laptop is not the same at a 5k+ motor and labor costs though. So something to consider.

 

Saw a '06 for sale today with a cracked block that missed the cut off by a month. Honda telling him to pound sand apparently.

 

The customer service rep, actually I talked with two of them, both told me that even if I missed the 10 year mark by just a day, then I was out of luck and it was then my responsibility.

 

I was JUST about to make a new thread asking about this, glad I searched first!

My 2006 Civic was just diagnosed with this problem yesterday. Independent mechanic quoted $5800 for a new engine, more than the car's value. I was briefly elated when I found out about TSB 10-048...until I read a bit closer and saw the 10-year cutoff.

I already called the local dealer yesterday and they confirmed that since the car was originally sold in July 2006 (not to me), the cutoff was July 2016. I also sent a Twitter DM to Honda customer service last night (yeah I'm in denial) to ask if there's any possibility of leeway. Based on responses here, I guess that will be a big NO when they get to work on Monday.

*sigh* So my next question for the Civic experts here: can I expect to get ANYTHING for trade-in on this car? I know how to find KBB value and such if it's in good running order, but I really don't know if I have anything to bargain with given the major repairs required. (It ALSO has a pending recall for the passenger side airbag since they haven't gotten those Takata parts yet. >.< )

I'm looking for a newer used car under about $12,000, so even $1000 or so for the trade-in would help. Or would I be better off selling it to a junkyard? I don't even know how to go about doing that. (I can learn, just venting frustration at this whole situation!)

 

Im so worried now... Im supposed to buy one with 93k miles on it next week...

 

I know double post, but this is needed and this thread should be locked on this subject and stickied.

NO ONE should be buying a 2006 Civic. Avoid it like the plague. Its a first year release of the then 'new' model. This is why the engine has issues. This is why the transmission will have issues.

Look at 2008 and newer. But do NOT buy the 2006 civic unless you have verifiable proof that the engine has been replaced.

 

I've been doing more research on this and found several people who've filed complaints with NHTSA. Others who are in the same boat (or rather car) may want to do that too. The forum won't let me post a direct link because I'm a newb, so just copy & paste this:

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/

If they get enough complaints filed on this issue, it could turn into a full recall. Since NHTSA exists to investigate safety hazards, emphasize that aspect in your complaint instead of just your dissatisfaction with a defective product. I was lucky that I noticed the coolant leaking before it was depleted altogether, but other people have had their engines overheat on the highway because of this.

 

$5k+ for those who don't know.... if you knew it would be less than $1k and at most a day.

 

Honestly I wouldn't even bother with Honda they are getting stiff on their warrantee especially out here in VA Westbroad Honda is ****. They wanted to charge me 5000 to buy a next motor and another 3 grand to put it in.

I left and this was for my 2008 Honda civic si mind you. Then they had the nerve to call me back asking me would I like to have the takata airbag changed out I replied hell no you guys are not touching my.

 

First of all Honda has no engine warranty or recall past the original 3yr/36k on the k20z3. Also, refusing an airbag warranty is foolhardy, and I hope you understand the consequences of the takata airbag.

Second, these cars are 10 years old. When you have a 10 year old car, even without a generous extension of a powertrain warranty, stuff fails. Usually around 10 years you get engine failures and transmission failures. Its a tough situation to be in, but Honda had already made it very clear that they remedied the situation far beyond the manufacturers normal responsibility point.

The car is not worth the engine replacement past the 10 year point per a manufacturer standpoint. Honda puts a new engine in your 10 year old 110k civic and in 2 weeks you come back because the transmission died. Its not worth it.

Your only hope is to contact a lawyer and expect to pay more in legal fees before you get any judgement in your favor than if you had simply replaced the engine or purchased a new vehicle. The truth hurts.

 

I must of been one of the lucky ones because my 2006 si has lasted 200k plus

 

'07 Civic cracked block

Hello,
New member here.

My '07 Civic (118,000 miles, purchased in March 2007) is about 5 months past the 10 year extended warranty period and Honda is replacing the cracked block, which they originally priced at $6000! for what they say is the labor cost, about $1600. They are paying for parts. I was hoping they would pay the whole thing but I'm glad they offered this to me.

I originally contacted them through Twitter and then I called Honda in California. It took awhile, but they were courteous and helpful.

I'll add, however, at the risk of being called an ingrate, that for a manufacturing defect like this I do not believe there should be any time limit on Honda's culpability. But, as I said, I'm happy with the resolution and I hope it works out. The car will be ready next week.

If there are any questions, please feel free to reply to this post.

Thanks,
Richard Garcia

 

Hello,
New member here.

My '07 Civic (118,000 miles, purchased in March 2007) is about 5 months past the 10 year extended warranty period and Honda is replacing the cracked block, which they originally priced at $6000! for what they say is the labor cost, about $1600. They are paying for parts. I was hoping they would pay the whole thing but I'm glad they offered this to me.

I originally contacted them through Twitter and then I called Honda in California. It took awhile, but they were courteous and helpful.

I'll add, however, at the risk of being called an ingrate, that for a manufacturing defect like this I do not believe there should be any time limit on Honda's culpability. But, as I said, I'm happy with the resolution and I hope it works out. The car will be ready next week.

If there are any questions, please feel free to reply to this post.

Thanks,
Richard Garcia

Hello Richard Garcia,

Could you please provide the name of the representative that help you from HONDA CORP? and also the dealership? I am going through the same process here but they do not want to honor anything of the warranty.

 

This just happened to my car a couple of days ago. It smelled like antifreeze, so I took it to my brother-in-law last night (who is a mechanic), and he did a pressure test and said the engine block is cracked. I bought this car used last year from a little old lady who took really good care of the car. I also have taken really good care of this car. It is an 06 Civic and it has ~120k miles on it. I am taking it to Honda today to see what they say. Hopefully they will be helpful and willing to take fix it since there was a recall, even though it has "expired." This happened through no fault of my own, and had I been aware of this issue I wouldn't have bought this car.

 

It is a WARRANTY EXTENSION not a recall. There's a huge difference.

Don't expect much, if anything, from Honda. And don't use the excuse of it happening through no fault of your own and you wouldn't have bought it had you known. Had you done your due diligence, you'd have known because it's very well documented.

 

Just what percent of these engines are failing? I have a 2008 with only 57 K miles and I am debating whether to keep it beyond the 10 year mark.

As for Honda taking care of customers DON'T COUNT ON IT! My transaxle and clutch came apart at 26K miles (and no, I didn't do anything wrong - it was actually during a gentler than normal shift from 1st to 2nd when it all came apart). I had it towed to the dealer, logically assuming it wold be covered under warranty. They declined to honor the warranty. Their official response (Honda USA, not just the dealer) was, "We don't see any defects." I guess being in pieces doesn't count. Too new to have aftermarket parts, and at the dealer to boot. They had me over a barrel since it was already apart. Big $.

 

Happened to my 158,000 2007 Civic Ex 2 weeks ago. Curiously a year ago I took it to Honda Of Manhattan for something unrelated and the guy mentioned the tsb. But stated that if the vehicle was over 100,000 is unlikely to happen. Fast forward November 2017 it happens and the warranty had expired March 2017. Called Honda of America corporate and various dealers and they were unable to help. Ended up purchasing a 2011 Engine.

 

probably best not to go to Honda Dealerships for anything other than another safety recall with these cars?

 

Just happened to my 07 at 94000 miles. Cracked behind the oil/air separator cover. What year motors did they fix this issue on? 09, 10 and 11?

 

^^ Was thinking 06-09.

Did you contact Honda ?

 

I agree with you OP.

My 2007 EX has 87K miles. Just got new tires from Costco as my old one blew out recently and tires were close to being replaced anyhow.

My 10 years ended since car was bought in April 2007. So far it has been running fine.

Whoever claims that a 10 year old car will have problems etc has no understanding of usage patterns of cars specially for people living in or close to metro areas. Honda should cover engine as long as people own the cars, at least 'original owners' and/or people who've had the car serviced at dealerships.

I'd completely forgotten about this issue till now and it seems the car is living on borrowed time.

Does the engine crack all of a sudden or is there some symptom before it cracks?

What does it cost to get the engine replaced in case this happens in the near future? Reason is, being an original owner, I know the service history of the car and can easily run it for another 5-6 years without any issue. 3k-5k for engine is still cheaper than 20K for a new car. At least that is what I'm thinking right now but definitely am open to alternatives.

Also, is there something one can do to preempt this issue from occurring in the first place? Perhaps testing the head/block and replacing something now at a cheaper price compared to engine replacement later?

Thanks,

 

My Mothers car just started leaking at the engine block. It is a 2007 with 97,000 miles and is out of warranty. Have not contacted Honda yet but you can bet I will. They dident even send out a recall for this. They will do something or I will for sure hire a lawyer!!

 

Have you looked at small claims court route? I think that could be the best way to proceed unless Honda does something.

As mentioned elsewhere, now that cars are passing the 10 year mark, we're going to see more and more of this issue coming up.

 

Claims about TEN YEAR OLD car, Look a

https://www.cars.com/articles/your-car-is-so-old-1420694584395/

Average Age of cars is 11.6 ins 2016 and generally people keep Hondas/Toyotas longer than average.

From the same article:
"IHS Markit predicts that by 2021, the number of vehicles 16 years old or more will grow by 30 percent to 81 million, with 20 million of those more than 25 years old".

 

From carcomplaints forum seems the most affected is 2006. Not sure why, since theoretically the engine casting wasn't changed until second half of 2009 since even some 2009 are affected.

2006 - 162
2007 - 67
2008 - 47
2009 - only 1

2008 vs 2007 makes sense since it's 1 extra year where problems can appear.

But 2006 vs 2007/2008 is a bit weird isn't it? Almost triple in numbers, and it's only 1 year older.

 

Thank you for posting these numbers from carcomplaints.com.

For those of you in this thread with cracked engines, are you among those numbers, or are you in addition? Rookie mistake, I just purchased a 2008 Civic, and it only has 80,000 miles. Trying to decide whether to abandon ship and re-sell, or to take the risk and hope it doesn't crack. It's in great shape otherwise...

 

I am having oil leak problem and I suspect a blown gasket or crack somewhere behind the engine on top. Only reason is because the top engine is covered in old burnt oil and underside has oil residue from it dripping down and getting slung by the belts on the side of engine.

 

Mine stranded me on a south Texas Interstate last summer. Traffic was backed up due to a wreck and it was over 100 degrees outside when it quit on my wife and I. I had heat stroke and almost died from it. Honda did nothing for me.

 

Small Claims court, Small claims court.

If enough people file claims then it might force Honda to address this issue "appropriately".

 

What is the newest year engine that will work as a replacement for the 2007 1.8 model?

 

2011, I believe. It was the last year of 8th gens. The 9th gen r18 is a different part number.

 

What CLimate were you in?

Ooops - started thread,

 

2008 Honda Civic Engine Block Cracked

I have a 2008 (mf date is Nov. 2007) Honda Civic with 156,000 miles. Engine block is cracked. I am just 3 months outside of the 10 year warranty on the engine block.

Dealership quoted me $6,500 for the repair. After some arguing they knocked it down to $4,300. Still not acceptable.

I opened a claim with Honda America and after sending them documentation of my oil change history they have decided they will cover all but $1,300.

While I am not happy to pay ANYTHING because of a known defect, $1,300 is A LOT better than $6,500.