[blue1]

Does anyone know if Dart has a K20 block? If so, how much and where can it be purchased?

 

[vtecmike1]

not sure about k20's but if they did :hitit: dart makes nice stuff.

:thumb:

maybe shoot these guys an email and see? http://www.tunerschoice.com/product.aspx?display_id=55&dept_id=187

just came up on google and i see they have b20's so maybe they would at least know about a k set up. not sayin i'd buy from these guys cuz i dont know anything about them.

 

[k20beast]

idk but yes thatd be nice..it would be a lot but it would be nice!

 

[TeamValorRacing]

They do, you just have to send yours in or pay the core charge for one.

- i would personally go with AEBS over dart though. i have seen some strange things from dart including un-seated sleeves, and crooked sleeves that were so outta whack the bore and hone couldnt even save them.

- i had a b20 block from AEBS with integrated block guard and the sleeves were ridiculous. rated for 1,000 hp all day.

 

[rbsjnh]

- i would personally go with AEBS over dart though. i have seen some strange things from dart including un-seated sleeves, and crooked sleeves that were so outta whack the bore and hone couldnt even save them.

I think the op was talking about the full custom dart blocks not just sleeving his block...I believe you are talking about just a sleeved bloc...

where did you see those blocks? Wouldn't have been the fault of whoever installed the sleeves?

I have an H22 that I need to sleeve and was looking into Dart...Thats why I'm asking...it just has big scrapes and I dont believe in the frm sleeves...very mild motor...

I have also been looking into JE Sleeves just for there affordability...

Can We get some feedback, I definitely dont want to make a bad decision...

 

[RedShiftChris]

you guys are mixing dart with darton. darton makes sleeves. dart makes the whole block, but dart only makes B series blocks, right?

AEBS is good too. There are lots of good sleeves. The trick is to have them installed correctly. There are only a few places in the whole country that I would recommend. ERL is on the top of my list. And they use a block guard style aluminum support as well. It's a very nice setup and they do a good job.... so no sinking sleeves or other bad experiences.

Chris

 

[chullen]

blue you should try ERL performance I have heard nothing but good things about them

http://www.erlperformance.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114&Itemid=97

here is there superdeck 1 which includes just sleeves and there superdeck setup. you can also get short blocks done by engine builders.

 

[blue1]

Already planning on using the ERL block. I was just wanting to get feedback to see if Dart had a K20 block available. :thumb:

 

[rcracin13]

u guys are crazy. dart blocks are a waste of money imo. fill your block and nice sleeves will get you something just as good as a dart block or better for a lot less. i cant remember which magazine did a b20/vtec build with a dart block and the build was either 13k or 19k. waste of money. they wasted a lot of extra money because the dart block wasnt perfect...

 

[rbsjnh]

ht just did one with endyn something like 320 hp Na off a 2.0l...they swore buy it...

 

[07CivicMD]

Looks like Dart is out of the running! Only a B series and no future plans for a K20 series.

 

[blue1]

ERL it is then. :lildevil:

 

[07CivicMD]

Let me know what they say.. Be very interesting to found out if they can mat there K20 block to the Z head. Have you called them?

 

[07CivicMD]

There's another company called exospeed that builds a K20 race block.

1. ARIAS forged pistons, with piston ring set, wrist pins, and locks. .
2. Eagle performance connecting Rods.
3. Exospeed Sleeved Block: Iron Ductile Open Deck Sleeve.
4. Precision bore, hone, hot tank, and step deck.
5. New Genuine OEM Factory main and rod bearings, with new OEM thrust washers.
6. New Genuine OEM Factory Oil Pump
7. New Genuine OEM Factory Oil Filter
8. New Genuine OEM Factory bottom end gasket kit. Includes: Oil pan gasket, main seal, oil pickup gasket, and more.

 

[rbsjnh]

Let me know what they say.. Be very interesting to found out if they can mat there K20 block to the Z head. Have you called them?

If you look around other forums they are mounting everything to the z heads...cant see why this would be any different

 

[07CivicMD]

I would think they would be able to mount it but wonder how much custom milling is required.

 

[rbsjnh]

I bet if you look around someone is making custom dowels, like they do for ls/vtec...for the amount of them that are supposedly out there it cant be to hard....are heads are the same as tsx's so that swap must be pretty straight forward....so maybe minimal amout of work for elements/accords..

 

[07CivicMD]

Call several shop and mention possible milling to help align the head. Need to find something soon though. Once the engine is decided on then the shop can work on other items on the car.. turbo.. ECM management.. etc

 

[chullen]

you can also get a modified oil pump from erl performance that uses the s2000 oil pump as a basis to start