I see. I will have to check that out then!! Thanks for the info!TBH, I'd love to, if I had more time away from work, and had the connections that Webby & Stu had/have.
Personally, I'm already planning on attending with Webby (the previous admin of 8thcivic, before AutoGuide bought it) and his 9thcivic's group. I usually can only financially support a couple trips a year up there, so that would be my second this year. If you're interested in joining many of the "O.G." 8thcivic heads who now tend to visit the dragon with the 9thcivic group (who, from my experience, tend to be a friendlier bunch), the details are on 9thcivic's forum.
(... We'll see if my post gets edited/deleted.)