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1/4 mile time with I, h, e, cams?

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So im lookin I to get some drag cartel 2.2 cams/ported manifold and port match it to a j37 throttle body

My question is what time you guys with cams are running? My goal is 12's with these mods on slicks and some weight reduction

I already have hybrid racing intake, skunk2 header, full-race exhaust tuned at 223whp

Ive seen 13.4 with full bolt ons and slicks so I think 12.9 with cams, ported mani and j37 tb is possible
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I have 2.2's, ZDX 70mm - 78mm throttle body, ported RBC, ASP 4-1, etc. ,etc. My best was a 13.6 w/245-40 R888 proxy's. Had to thrash the engine/ride clutch out. Drag isn't my thing, don't wanna break anything, I just had to know what it could do not relying on dyno numbers.
West Wisco. Where you at?

12's are going to be tough.
So im lookin I to get some drag cartel 2.2 cams/ported manifold and port match it to a j37 throttle body

My question is what time you guys with cams are running? My goal is 12's with these mods on slicks and some weight reduction

I already have hybrid racing intake, skunk2 header, full-race exhaust tuned at 223whp

Ive seen 13.4 with full bolt ons and slicks so I think 12.9 with cams, ported mani and j37 tb is possible
lol thought you were going to be apart of the skunk2 crew... (JOKING).

To hit 12s on a 8th chassis you need SERIOUS weight reduction, cams and gears i.e. ITR 4th/5th and 5.0 FD. I recall K20Z3ALLMOTOR (emann) did it before he became the fastest all motor 8th gen. I would ask him on how to hit 12s but I'm positive you need gears as well.

Gears make a world of difference...
lol thought you were going to be apart of the skunk2 crew... (JOKING).

To hit 12s on a 8th chassis you need SERIOUS weight reduction, cams and gears i.e. ITR 4th/5th and 5.0 FD. I recall K20Z3ALLMOTOR (emann) did it before he became the fastest all motor 8th gen. I would ask him on how to hit 12s but I'm positive you need gears as well.

Gears make a world of difference...
those are still on my mind but vit and others are convincing me to go cartel !
Get Drag Cartel 2.2's and a Rotrex supercharger. You'll hit 12's even if you are a bad driver.
So im lookin I to get some drag cartel 2.2 cams/ported manifold and port match it to a j37 throttle body

My question is what time you guys with cams are running? My goal is 12's with these mods on slicks and some weight reduction

I already have hybrid racing intake, skunk2 header, full-race exhaust tuned at 223whp

Ive seen 13.4 with full bolt ons and slicks so I think 12.9 with cams, ported mani and j37 tb is possible
What do you plan on doing with the car? Will you be doing the work or having it done? What kind of budget do you have or plan on spending?
For you to hit 12 in general you are going to need to touch the bottom end or unless you want to completely gut your car and run skinnys in the rear and 23 inch slicks.

here is my setup.
Hondata Flashpro (Tuned By W00T692)
Hybrid-Racing intake
Skunk2 Megapower Header Ceramic Coated
3in Full Race Exhaust
Ported RBC (Ported by Kris @ Hybrid-Racing)
ZDX Thorttle Body(J37)
RDX 410 Injectors
Drag Cartel 2.2 Camshafts
Go-Power 100lb Valvetrain
P113 P2R Thermal IMG
P149 P2R thermal tb gasket
P384 P2R Throttle body adapter for RBC/RRC

i know my car has mid to low 13s. i just need more seat time. ive came close on radials and street tire.
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What do you plan on doing with the car? Will you be doing the work or having it done? What kind of budget do you have or plan on spending?
it's just a weekend car, i plan to do the work will the help of my brother and another friend.... not hitting 12's is not a big deal i was just wondering if it's possible with the setup i listed but i would be very happy will low 13's as my setup now (i,h,e) ran 14.3 with street tires and a bad 60ft

i will be buying the cams and valve train during the winter and the rest of what i need (rsx-s oil pump, ported mani, j37 tb) throughout the year with no rush getting all the parts i need till after next winter
it's just a weekend car, i plan to do the work will the help of my brother and another friend.... not hitting 12's is not a big deal i was just wondering if it's possible with the setup i listed but i would be very happy will low 13's as my setup now (i,h,e) ran 14.3 with street tires and a bad 60ft

i will be buying the cams and valve train during the winter and the rest of what i need (rsx-s oil pump, ported mani, j37 tb) throughout the year with no rush getting all the parts i need till after next winter
Well, that is what I was getting at. Since your not doing this for class racing and for about the same money and way easier of an install, why not get a SC. It's a bolt item as well. It will definitely get you in the 12's with a DR or a slick. Low 13's on a street tire. It will do better against a lot more cars on the street. You will gain around 60+ hp over the best k20 cam set up you can do.
For you to hit 12 in general you are going to need to touch the bottom end or unless you want to completely gut your car and run skinnys in the rear and 23 inch slicks.

here is my setup.
Hondata Flashpro (Tuned By W00T692)
Hybrid-Racing intake
Skunk2 Megapower Header Ceramic Coated
3in Full Race Exhaust
Ported RBC (Ported by Kris @ Hybrid-Racing)
ZDX Thorttle Body(J37)
RDX 410 Injectors
Drag Cartel 2.2 Camshafts
Go-Power 100lb Valvetrain
P113 P2R Thermal IMG
P149 P2R thermal tb gasket
P384 P2R Throttle body adapter for RBC/RRC

i know my car has mid to low 13s. i just need more seat time. ive came close on radials and street tire.
You can get 12.9-13.0, just gotta drive that bish. Haven't tracked my setup yet but with some minor weight reduction I am on par with this.
Well, that is what I was getting at. Since your not doing this for class racing and for about the same money and way easier of an install, why not get a SC. It's a bolt item as well. It will definitely get you in the 12's with a DR or a slick. Low 13's on a street tire. It will do better against a lot more cars on the street. You will gain around 60+ hp over the best k20 cam set up you can do.
not really a fan of superchargers, i've always been an all motor guy :badger:
but i guess most cant rev to 8k with still staying in speed limits lol
it sucks we hve to put 4-6k to hit 12s
you can hit 12s with 150shot

The real issue is this is a HEAVY 4cyl with no turbo --- lots of factors against it running 12s in the first place

I did the Type R Final drive and it helps quite a bit --- I think cams/inake mods/good exhaust + slicks should be high 12s

Tongman ran 13.20s with bolt-ons -- with cams and final drive I would say 12s for sure (on slicks)

Throw the motor in an EG hatch and run deep 11s :woowoo:

For 6k-8k you can have this car running deep 11s reliably with an FI setup
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you can hit 12s with 150shot

The real issue is this is a HEAVY 4cyl with no turbo --- lots of factors against it running 12s in the first place

I did the Type R Final drive and it helps quite a bit --- I think cams/inake mods/good exhaust + slicks should be high 12s

Tongman ran 13.20s with bolt-ons -- with cams and final drive I would say 12s for sure (on slicks)

Throw the motor in an EG hatch and run deep 11s :woowoo:

For 6k-8k you can have this car running deep 11s reliably with an FI setup
Tong ran 13.2 with bolt ons, Vit tune, weight reduction, 15 or 16inch wheels and was on slicks..

For 12s you need cams, 5.0 final drive, ITR 4th and 5th gear set, weight reduction, slicks and possibly ported head and or intake manifold. The 8th chassis is a pig, let alone FWD FTL.
^ which i believe is a fast track of what he went on.... cammed cars with stock gearing can probably hit high 12s. with the weight reduction like tongman.
Tong ran 13.2 with bolt ons, Vit tune, weight reduction, 15 or 16inch wheels and was on slicks..

For 12s you need cams, 5.0 final drive, ITR 4th and 5th gear set, weight reduction, slicks and possibly ported head and or intake manifold. The 8th chassis is a pig, let alone FWD FTL.
He had his passenger seat out and the spare out -- thats about as much "weight reduction" as he does at the strip IIRC

My point is the FD and cams alone will put the car into the 105-108mph territory which is enough power for the 12s --- the traction will be the deciding factor and with a decent set of slicks 12.90s woudnt be a problem with 20-25 more whp and 700 more revs per gear with cams

I think DC-R gears could help with cams given the extra rpm you get but depending on the next mods they might be too short with a blower if drag racing is the goal

stock gearing + CTR FD + cams (9000rpm) = 116mph 4th gear = 330-350whp sweet spot at the strip running a blower

For a purely NA setup the DC-R 4th would cut down the mph to 100 without cams and 110 with cams. Adding the 5th cuts it down to 124 without cams and 137 with cams which makes it the optimum OEM gearing for max accel.

If your setup is going to need 5th gear the 0.972 certainly helps shorten it to be useful for drag racing with it but preferably you could re-gear the car to end in 4th so you dont have to add a shift into the mix

Consider if your making 450whp and trap 120-124mph with a big blower or medium turbo setup you need to be in 5th gear with the CTR final ....but if you use the 4.389 FD you can hit 126 (DC-R 4th) or 133 (stock 4th) with cams and not have to shift into 5th - less to go wrong and easier to make a clean pass -

Special note - if your making that kind of power (450+) and dont want to run the DC-R gears or cams (9000rpm) the stock gears and stock redline (8200) with the 4.389 FD will get you to 122mph in 4th (25.09 overall tire height) .....just running out of gear for that power level but a cheaper way to go. If you leave the stock FD in you will have to grab 5th probably around the 1000 mark.

Also I think the 4.389 FD will make wheelspin less of an issue in the lower gears in boost -- just saying, something to think about the overall setup and tuning when your planning your build to reduce headaches and being able to enjoy the first couple gears on the street.
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