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Old 02-02-2014, 01:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Innovative vs Hasport

Why does the Innovative kit include the front mount and the Hasport kit include the rear mount? Which kit gets the job done the best without transmitting harmonics into the cab. I know the Hasport kit cost more, but if it transmits less vibration then they might be worth it. I have done a ton of searches but haven't seen anyone talking about the different mount locations.

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Old 02-05-2014, 01:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So I called Hasport and Innovative and talked to them about their mounts. Innovative said they didn't make a rear mount because they found that it could lead to cracking the oil pan on the 8th gen so they just make the front three. They also said they didn't recommend anything softer than 75a for our cars due to the weight of the motor. Hasport said they didn't make a front mount because the rear mount does most of the work for holding the motor so the front mount wasn't necessary. They said that the 62a would do just fine for a street car. So now I guess I need to decide if I want to run the Innovative 75a or the Hasport 62a.

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Sounds like 2 different philosophies..what kind of power range u goin for? I lean towards hasports being the better choice. Innovative requires more durometer maybe cuz they didnt make a rear mount
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im thinking innovative 60a mmounts with 62a rear hasport dogbone, im only doing mild bolt ons, so i think that is ample stiffness for my set up that i am planning according to the research ive done.
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im thinking innovative 60a mmounts with 62a rear hasport dogbone, im only doing mild bolt ons, so i think that is ample stiffness for my set up that i am planning according to the research ive done.

Just so you know 60a isn't even as stiff as the stock motor mount rubber.

If you get 60a i'd get at least a 75a rear hasport mount if you're getting that too.
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Just so you know 60a isn't even as stiff as the stock motor mount rubber.

If you get 60a i'd get at least a 75a rear hasport mount if you're getting that too.
Sorry, but where do you get this information?

The stock rubber mounts have HOLES IN THEM. They are absolutely not as stiff as aftermarket 60a mounts.
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A good combo here...

ZERG Rear Motor Mount w/ Prothane Bushing 2006-2011 Honda Civic Si

Innovative Motor Mounts Kit 2006-2011 Civic Si Coupe & Sedan

You get all 4 mounts for around $400

My opinion is, to replace all 4, with a bushing you feel comfortable with.
75a bushing would be suitable for most DD, and track weekends, anything higher will result is vibration in the cab.

Plus to boot, these mounts have lifetime warranty.
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I don't understand why you would go with a knockoff of the Hasport rear mount, just to save $10.

If you're concerned about budget and vibrations, my $0.02 would be to go with the 62a Hasport rear mount only.

IMHO, it's noteworthy that HPD only replaces the dog bones. If the side mounts are good enough for them, they're good enough for me.

I would not even consider Innovative based upon their explanation of their product.

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I talked to a fella on this site for a while on the phone, he has built a bad ass civic and plenty of other cars before this, he said if he had to do it again he would go with the innovative mounts with the hasport rear. he said he had innovative mounts on everyone of his car builds and they held up great. This was a guy who would launch his car at 5500 rpms off the line. He tried hasports on his 8th and blew them out and started blowing out the bushings again after hasport replaced them once, so hasport sent him new bushings again. The innovatives never blew out.

I have yet to get mounts, but I am going off of this.
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I'm getting innovative 75A with a Hasport rear, there are many threads talking about this set up and it seems like a good choice
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I think om going to sample just the hasport dog bone and write a review on it, there is a rate you mount thread, but I dont see it as a very through review of those mounts, can anyone verify what that guy said about the 60a being softer than stock?
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I don't understand why you would go with a knockoff of the Hasport rear mount, just to save $10.
Too each his own..

In my opinion the ZERG rear mount offers an authentic Prothane 75a Bushing with Lifetime Warranty and is a BIG PLUS in my book.

Who makes the Hsport bushing? Just a point I wanted to make.
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I read a good thread on an rsx forum

Some information about Hasport mounts from Brian at Hasport - Club RSX Message Board

I am going to go with the Hasport 62a kit after everything I have read. I know they cost more, but I think it will be worth it. Read through that link I posted and let me know what you think. I am shooting for around 230-250whp in the end. Just bolt ons and cams.

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Well I just pulled the trigger on a set of Hasport 62a mounts. I will let you know how they are once they are in.
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Well I just pulled the trigger on a set of Hasport 62a mounts. I will let you know how they are once they are in.
sounds good, did you get the rear dogbone also?
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Yeah. I got the three piece kit. I am hopeful so wish me luck
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Nice. U will love the hasports. Im running the full 70a kit and it barely vibrates more than 3 injected stock dogbones. Install was a beezy when it came to that one bolt on the inside frame, next to the transmission. I would recommend a ratcheting wrench, 17mm i believe??. You will see
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My 70a hasport mounts are great. Hardly any vibrations at all. I've had boomba mounts, stock injected mounts and now these. They are by far the best I've had. Also I'm using an injected front mount.
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What durometer did you inject with and did you inject old oem or new oem?
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Sorry, but where do you get this information?

The stock rubber mounts have HOLES IN THEM. They are absolutely not as stiff as aftermarket 60a mounts.
They might have holes in them but the rubber that is there is stiffer than 60 durometer.

This is why people get 60 or 62a mounts and have issues in the future with wheelhop coming back, or with the mounts starting to actually sag.

If you're getting motor mounts, get motor mounts and don't compromise. Otherwise fill your stock mounts and **** off.


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