Some idiot lost the key to my wheel locks...

civsnake · 08-29-2007, 11:00 AM

...yeah, it was me.

I was installing the HFP suspension kit this weekend and misplaced the key to my Rays lugs. I spent about an hour yesterday after work looking for it in the garage and can't find it.

So what are my options? Has anyone else here done this? I no longer have the packaging the nuts came in, so if Rays makes more than one key shape I don't know if I'll be able to order a replacement. I don't even know if I can order a replacement. The nut is seven sided with a channel recessed into one of the sides. I know tools exist to get them off, but is that my only option? Input would be appreciated.

hoanger · 08-29-2007, 12:04 PM

I'm sure you can order another one.. have you tried ebay or googling it?
companies aren't dumb enough to not make extras for those who lose theirs
unless they do it on purpose so you have to buy another set of lugs just to get the key...
try searching around (not on 8th)

civsnake · 08-29-2007, 12:42 PM

I know in a lot of cases you can order a replacement, but you need a serial number to do it. I think I may have tossed the packaging with the serial number. I doubt the keys are universal for all Rays lugs, that wouldn't really make sense. The other annoying part is that these nuts come from Japan, so I would in all likelyhood have to have a replacement key shipped from Japan, taking time and costing mucho dinero...

Nate99 · 08-29-2007, 12:56 PM

There are other methods of getting them off, you might talk to someone at a tire shop, they have to see these all the time.

Rolow · 08-29-2007, 01:23 PM

from what i can tell my key and lugs have the same number on them but that number is not on the package that i can tell anyway.

thedamaja · 08-29-2007, 01:28 PM

If all else fails you can pound a large socket on to it as a last resort.

I Vtec, do you? · 08-29-2007, 01:38 PM

Can't key-holes be replicated at a key shop? Or maybe I'm watching too much t.v :S

RiceBowL54 · 08-29-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

Can't key-holes be replicated at a key shop? Or maybe I'm watching too much t.v :S

wha?!

TommyD · 08-29-2007, 01:53 PM

You are screwed. If they are Honda wheel locks they won't get you another without that piece of paper that came with them.

Any tire shop can use a socket and slowly get it off with the gun. You'll need to buy a new set at that point.

asdf0123 · 08-29-2007, 01:54 PM

rays keys..im pretty sure you would be able to get another one..just depending on timely is the how soon you'll need it.

Rolow · 08-29-2007, 02:02 PM

I'd post in the regional forum and try to meet up with people with rays keys so you can figure out which one you need then contact mackin and try order a new one.

Any one know how many different keys rays have?

civsnake · 08-29-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

Can't key-holes be replicated at a key shop? Or maybe I'm watching too much t.v :S

The key I'm talking about is similar to a 19mm hex nut, except it's 7-sided and has a recessed channel in one side. It's not a key for a traditional tumbler-style lock.

civsnake · 08-29-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolow

I'd post in the regional forum and try to meet up with people with rays keys so you can figure out which one you need then contact mackin and try order a new one.

Any one know how many different keys rays have?

I don't think Mackin will be able to help because I don't think they officially import the Rays Lugs. I could be wrong about that.

SiFGtwo · 08-29-2007, 02:13 PM

Pepboys sells emergency wheel lock removed but u do need an impact wrench.... had the same thing happen last week with my HFP wheels and stock honda wheel locks... but u do have to buy new locks... thats prolli the last thing you want to do. my key was broken i had no other choice

***GeezerSi*** · 08-29-2007, 02:28 PM

Contact the wheel lock mfr.

I Vtec, do you? · 08-29-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiFGtwo

Pepboys sells emergency wheel lock removed but u do need an impact wrench.... had the same thing happen last week with my HFP wheels and stock honda wheel locks... but u do have to buy new locks... thats prolli the last thing you want to do. my key was broken i had no other choice

Doesn't that completely go against the purpose of the wheel locks? Lol

NIGHTHAWKSI · 08-29-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyD

You are screwed. If they are Honda wheel locks they won't get you another without that piece of paper that came with them.

Any tire shop can use a socket and slowly get it off with the gun. You'll need to buy a new set at that point.

luckily he has rays lugs/locks as he said in his first post.

lightlypurified · 08-29-2007, 05:04 PM

hmm i took my wheel locks off i know its good for protection reasons but it gets hard sometimes taking it out and it dents or makes marks on the key just take it off.

kuad · 12-31-2007, 09:44 PM

same here! i just got a "certified used" honda and realized that they did not give me the key. they said they would "resolve" the problem. how do you fix that?

kuad · 01-01-2008, 10:01 AM

08-29-2007, 11:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
civsnake Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pasadena. South of the 210. Age: 26 Posts: 2,337 English Classassin iTrader: 1 / 100%	Some idiot lost the key to my wheel locks... ...yeah, it was me. I was installing the HFP suspension kit this weekend and misplaced the key to my Rays lugs. I spent about an hour yesterday after work looking for it in the garage and can't find it. So what are my options? Has anyone else here done this? I no longer have the packaging the nuts came in, so if Rays makes more than one key shape I don't know if I'll be able to order a replacement. I don't even know if I can order a replacement. The nut is seven sided with a channel recessed into one of the sides. I know tools exist to get them off, but is that my only option? Input would be appreciated.

08-29-2007, 02:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
*GeezerSi* Hidy ho neighbor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Palm, PA Posts: 12,903 -> Ken iTrader: 5 / 100%	Contact the wheel lock mfr. __________________

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hoanger Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 4,763 Jason iTrader: 1 / 100%	I'm sure you can order another one.. have you tried ebay or googling it? companies aren't dumb enough to not make extras for those who lose theirs unless they do it on purpose so you have to buy another set of lugs just to get the key... try searching around (not on 8th)

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civsnake Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pasadena. South of the 210. Age: 26 Posts: 2,337 English Classassin iTrader: 1 / 100%	I know in a lot of cases you can order a replacement, but you need a serial number to do it. I think I may have tossed the packaging with the serial number. I doubt the keys are universal for all Rays lugs, that wouldn't really make sense. The other annoying part is that these nuts come from Japan, so I would in all likelyhood have to have a replacement key shipped from Japan, taking time and costing mucho dinero...

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Nate99 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston Age: 31 Posts: 33 iTrader: 0 / 0%	There are other methods of getting them off, you might talk to someone at a tire shop, they have to see these all the time.

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Rolow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 / 0%	from what i can tell my key and lugs have the same number on them but that number is not on the package that i can tell anyway.

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thedamaja Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SBN Age: 30 Posts: 353 Respect my authoritah! iTrader: 0 / 0%	If all else fails you can pound a large socket on to it as a last resort.

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I Vtec, do you? Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: mn Posts: 7,646 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Can't key-holes be replicated at a key shop? Or maybe I'm watching too much t.v :S

08-29-2007, 01:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
TommyD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,358 iTrader: 0 / 0%	You are screwed. If they are Honda wheel locks they won't get you another without that piece of paper that came with them. Any tire shop can use a socket and slowly get it off with the gun. You'll need to buy a new set at that point.

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asdf0123 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: weRk-N-progr3ss Posts: 4,075 JamEs iTrader: 4 / 100%	rays keys..im pretty sure you would be able to get another one..just depending on timely is the how soon you'll need it.

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Rolow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'd post in the regional forum and try to meet up with people with rays keys so you can figure out which one you need then contact mackin and try order a new one. Any one know how many different keys rays have?

08-29-2007, 02:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
SiFGtwo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 148 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Pepboys sells emergency wheel lock removed but u do need an impact wrench.... had the same thing happen last week with my HFP wheels and stock honda wheel locks... but u do have to buy new locks... thats prolli the last thing you want to do. my key was broken i had no other choice

08-29-2007, 05:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
lightlypurified Senior Member Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,163 iTrader: 0 / 0%	hmm i took my wheel locks off i know its good for protection reasons but it gets hard sometimes taking it out and it dents or makes marks on the key just take it off.

12-31-2007, 09:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
kuad Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 145 iTrader: 0 / 0%	same here! i just got a "certified used" honda and realized that they did not give me the key. they said they would "resolve" the problem. how do you fix that?

01-01-2008, 10:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
kuad Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 145 iTrader: 0 / 0%