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Old 09-10-2007, 12:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We are all prisoners...

I just wanted to type this out before I lost my train of thought. It's gonna get pretty deep and out there but bear with me if you care to read.

I just had a re-awakening after a night of stimulation to the brain. I can't explain what I felt or saw, and if I did I would seem like a lunatic. It was weird.

To explain breifly what I experienced. Odd but familiar... I had a vision of a completly different dimension, a dimension far greater than this that seemed to make no sense to me but I was aware of this dimension all along. It felt as if I was not me in this reality, but i was something else, and this now is nothing more than a figment of something else's imagination that plays out like a movie.

And during this, from what little I can actually remember, seemed like this life im living now is "late". Like I have to rush to keep up with this other reality that is leaving me behind. I don't know what to make of it... Short life span for me? Maybe.

Now after sharing that, which will make no sense to anyone else but me, I will seem like I crazy ass druggie. So be it. One thing I do want to mention is that during this, well, after this experience... The radio I had playing, 102.1 the Edge, in the background for ambience seemed to be mocking me.

Anyway... I told you that to tell you this.

After that experience it caused me to re-think about my views of the life and go in-depth with my perception.

During that experience, I felt as all this now, life, is nothing more that us living in vain. For nothing...

There is no reason or meaning of our lives. But people can't accept that. As intelligent beings, we are cursed with the ability to reason and logic. We have to have meaning in everything, we have to be able to explain why things are and for what reason. Religion?

But I don't think there is any reason to life. Other than live. For what, who knows. Why should we even care?

Alright, since this is going to get long I'll leave a numbered sentence that captures the main idea of each topic to help you guys.

1.) Life has no meaning, create your own meaning and live for yourself.



Now. On to this reality..

What is the point of all this we have now that we created? Furniture, computers, or any material possesions? Why are we so consumed in having something better than everyone else? Why is it important to seem better than the next guy when in the grand scheme of things, means nothing but a pile of shit. What we own doesn't make who we are. The guy with a BMW down the street is no better or on any higher level than the guy that can't afford a car and has trouble making end meet to live in his structurally unsound trailer home. Because over time, we all die. Death is the great equalizer, but we were always equals since the beginning.

Having an ego and putting up the image of being far greater than any one else is extremely pointless and a waste of energy that you could have been exerted to do something for the better of yourself.

2. Loose your ego. What you think you are from the perspective of others is irrelevant to what really is important. What that importance is is up to you, create your own reality. Cause in the end, everything else you believed in doesn't mean a damn.



Why is this society so fixated on materialism? Why are we forced to believe that what we have now is what we really need? Do we need all this?

We are the only species of animals, what we really are, that has created this false world that we believe to be reality. Sure it's great to have things like this to make life more enjoyable and easier, but in turn it has us to have a distorted and more complicated view and perception on what it actually means to live. Life isn't about what you own or have. Just live without meaning, thats the meaning of life.

But since this is the "reality" we live in now, what are we to do?

In order to have the things that society tells us we need to have we have to work our entire life time to reach this goal only to feel empty and short-handed when we don't reach it. And even those that do reach the goal still feel the same.

So is what we believe to be necessities even that?

People like you and me and told from day one that if you work hard enough you can become anything you want in life.. Bullshit.

People that tell you that are the one's that control this manufactured reality.

We work meaningless jobs that we hate only in hope that someday we might become the rich boss that we despise but truly long to be. We think that with enough time and energy wasted into our job that we can rise up and reach the "American" dream. That dream is a lie.

We are nothing more than part of a system created by the wealthy to keep them so. They give us false hope that with hard work they will become where he is. So we sheepishly follow along and become slaves in hope of attaining what he has and what society has us to believe what is the good life, when none of that is even attainable.

The system we have now is nothing more then a system to keep the middle class and lower their, forever. The wealthy regulate and manipulate everything thing in this world. Governments, politics, propaganda, society, technology, and our rights are all in the control of the rich.

We live lives that are made to seem promising and worth-while when in reality we are slaves to who controls us reality. We are being lied to, and we continue to follow. Cause we know nothing else than this created reality.

3.) We are prisoners of society. Everything promised to us for the expense of our lives is nothing than a lie fabricated to benefit those in power.



In order to beat the system, what is it we have to do?

Like all the others that have become the richest and most powerful people in the world, they found a way to work around the system. By exploiting people and manipulating things in their world to create the world they want.

We are all in control of our world. This world we live in doesn't and shouldn't mean a thing to you. In order to become the richest and most powerful we have to exploit and manipulate the things around us. And by doing that we take away others chance at life. So is it even worth it?

Is money the meaning of life?

Depends on what life's meaning means to you.

4.) To become the one's that dictate and create "reality" through this system, you have be the one who doesn't follow the system. Exploit the world and people, and create your own reality. But is doing this the meaning of life. No. Everything we do in hope of reaching and living the meaning of life isn't. There is no meaning.



Im sorry for any grammatical errors or incoherent and uncohesive ramblings, I don't have the time or energy to fix it at the moment. I just wanted to have these thoughts down in hard form rather than floating chaoticaly in my mind. Which is the reason probably for the inconsistent and aimless typing.

Everything I have said is not based on any facts other than my own observation and meandering thoughts through my perception.

Feel free to critisize and share your own thoughts on the subject.
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You need better pot, that doesn;t sound like fun at all
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"Stimulation of the brain."

That really does sound like you were under the influence. But I appreciate you posting this
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We dont buy things to compete with the possessions of others. We buy shit because we have jobs, money, and we want toys. I dont know anybody who has a job and refuses to use money in any way. Defeats the purpose of your job. Be a bum!
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We dont buy things to compete with the possessions of others. We buy shit because we have jobs, money, and we want toys. I dont know anybody who has a job and refuses to use money in any way. Defeats the purpose of your job. Be a bum!
You might not think you personally do, but you do to an extent.

You buy the shit and you work the hours because you assume that is what life is about. TV, newspapers, magazines, and radio are all mediums for propaganda. And they tell you that you have to have this.

You bought the high-end PC because you were told you needed one to keep up with technology in order to live in this modern world. You got the nice car because it's a symbol of status and prosperity. You bought the nice house for the same reason. You got the IPod because you see commercials and ads everywhere for them so you must have one, cause everyone else does.

Society has influenced and brainwashed us to believe we need all of these things to survive in this world. And the people that are controlling these mediums are the ones that are in control of these businesses that make the products we "need". We are nothing more than ignorant blind consumers.

Im not saying that you should stop working or buying things that I've mentioned, but become aware of the things around you. And when I use the word "you" im not directing this to you.

And by stimulating, I meant by through the use of Salvia. Nothing illegal, but I use it sparingly for such things as this. It makes me more aware of my surrounding.
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You need better pot, that doesn;t sound like fun at all
lol, naaa, I don't like weed much.

And I don't do drugs for fun. I do it for a change in perception and thinking, which can be fun.
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I would like to know two things, one what happened in your life to make you feel this way, and even if all of this rambling is true, how the hell are we supposed to do what it is that you are saying we should do?

I find this journal very interesting, eventhough i do not feel the same as you. I guessing you had one of those moments, i usually have them after something terrible has happened, when it feels like time just stops, and everything you thought was going to happen or should happen or has happened was all for nothing. You feel like you arent in control of your life, and you arent. Its a very scary idea to realize.

I would really like to know what happened
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lol, naaa, I don't like weed much.

And I don't do drugs for fun. I do it for a change in perception and thinking, which can be fun.

Well, in that case, you need a better shrink. That or go buy the toll book "The power of Now"
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Well, in that case, you need a better shrink. That or go buy the toll book "The power of Now"

Edit: or pm me and I will send you a pdf of it for free, since you aren't into paying for shit and I try never to pay for anything
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You might not think you personally do, but you do to an extent.

You buy the shit and you work the hours because you assume that is what life is about. TV, newspapers, magazines, and radio are all mediums for propaganda. And they tell you that you have to have this.

You bought the high-end PC because you were told you needed one to keep up with technology in order to live in this modern world. You got the nice car because it's a symbol of status and prosperity. You bought the nice house for the same reason. You got the IPod because you see commercials and ads everywhere for them so you must have one, cause everyone else does.

Society has influenced and brainwashed us to believe we need all of these things to survive in this world. And the people that are controlling these mediums are the ones that are in control of these businesses that make the products we "need". We are nothing more than ignorant blind consumers.

Im not saying that you should stop working or buying things that I've mentioned, but become aware of the things around you. And when I use the word "you" im not directing this to you.

And by stimulating, I meant by through the use of Salvia. Nothing illegal, but I use it sparingly for such things as this. It makes me more aware of my surrounding.
my car was purchased for nessecity, and want. i didnt buy it to be "cool". i bought it bc i liked the way it drove, and its an amazing car. if i lived in the middle of nowhere, i would still buy it to get around, even if no1 saw me. a car isnt a symbol, and if it is to you im sorry.

and i bought an ipod bc i was tired of switching out cds in my car. and when i buy a house, it will prob be in the middle of nowhere, with alot of land, and i will buy according to the size of my family. not to be better them someone else. i dont want a CEO job, and i dont want to make alot of money. i just want enought to support my family and create a happy life for them. one where they dont have to worry getting food stamps, or having a job at 15. i would like them to concentrate on being young, having fun, and school... so they can do the same for their children
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Edit: or pm me and I will send you a pdf of it for free, since you aren't into paying for shit and I try never to pay for anything
u dont need to mock the dude. he was just sharing his beliefs
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lol, control isn't an issue. I have more control over things by being aware of what I think goes on.

You can'not tell me you have never thought about the meaning of existence and life?

What made me really change my views on life was when I begin thinking for myself and questioned my religion.

I realized that I truly did not believe in Christianity or any mainstream religion.

I also became more intrigued with John Lennon and Buddhism and I began to intergrate their idea's and concepts to my own.

I don't see how you think Im not in control of my life, if anything I am more in control of my own life. I learned to think for myself and question things I thought and were told to believe in.

If anything, people that aren't aware of things now and follow blindly with the masses are completely out of control of their lives.

What happened to me was a good thing. Now it's time for others to have something open their eye's.
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I have questioned my religion several times, but my faith is pretty strong. For me believing in God isn't a choices, I do not see a way around it for myself. Too many things cannot be explained, and I think he is the answer to them. However I do not go to church and i rarely pray( only when I think that someone or something really need help, and even then I don't pray for God to do something, I pray for his will to come true). You speak of corruption, and I see lots of it in the church. I see it everywhere.

I think Christianity is my way, but I do not look down on people who believe in other religion. I am just happy for them that they realize that there is something more out there. And perhaps one day the can see what I do
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I've explained my stance and perception of religion in another thread but i'll touch on it here too.

As long as you questioned your religion atleast once I can respect that. I can't however respect those that have never questioned their "beliefs" and follow blindly without a personal choice in something they have not commited to believe in.

I think religion is a great moral guideline. It's main concept is great. But corruption of man has led to the exploitation of the idea and used it for personal gain.

I also think the belief in god is nothing more than a patch to fill in the void of what you do not know though actual facts and science. Take the sun for instance.. Ancient cultures believed the sun was a deity that revolved around the earth that brought life to the world. But each night darkness would set in leaving the people feeling vunerable, hence Evil.

Religions and beliefs were created in this idea that they must worship something they know to bring life for it to continue to do so.

As time progressed and we became more intelligent, we realized the sun is nothing more than a ball of gas that does bring life but isn't something of a higher power.

That being said, I believe religion and the belief of God is just to fill in the void for something we cannot explain factually at the moment.

Nothing is wrong with believing though. Belief and hope in something is what gives us meaning to live and makes life bearable.

But I cannot see myself worshipping a false idol that does not exist in my reality.
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lol drugs isn't what spawned my beliefs. But if your looking for a change in your beliefs I really do recommend trying salvia.

Its legal and mind-opening. I finally tried it using a torch lighter and damn... Last night is what re-awakened me like I said before. So much more intense than before...
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this is all life. we live. we die. we believe. we dont believe. it all comes down to what you want out of it. enjoy the time you get here.
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