Call me a nerd, call me crazy..

[2f2fc1v1c]

Originally Posted by TJ213

I spent that much on mine




but mine's a MacBook Pro, so 2k isn't that bad

ditto Macbook pro FTW

Once you go MAC, you will never go back

[dentrecords]

Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

Secondly, I doubt he does intensive video/music editing. Just a hunch..

Speaking of hunches.. I bet you didn't know that Darryl does create and edit videos.

CLAYBAR TUTORIAL! *Q&A* *VIDEO*
http://www.youtube.com/user/poofyfinger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDnMAlF_dzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-JTP060MLA

I'm willing to bet that in the next couple of years, most of the major audio and video editing suites will support multiple cores, whether dual or even 16. You can't charge thousands of dollars for editing software and not support soon to be very much mainstream technologies. As a bit of conjecture, I bought a 64 bit processor before windows supported it natively.. well, now it does.

As for showing you an application that can use that much processing power - try Steinberg Nuendo running dozens of VST synth instruments with multiple VST inserts and effects on each channel. Then route the outputs of each synth through a multi-out soundcard (sent to your mixing board, to run outboard effects through your discreet channel inserts) whilst recording 8 inputs simultaneously. If you're seriously into music production, it's pretty easy to max your CPU out... let alone the minutes at a time spent rendering a completely finished song, or video file.

I totally agree that for the general public, it's overkill. For Darryl, this seems to be a great setup for the long term.

[ouija]

Nice rig, shoulda got the P35 chipset though.

[si_civic]

1.4 MEGA BYTES PER SECOND dude, not Megabits. This is a 10 megaBIT/s (or 1.4 Mb/s) connection. 1400kb/s.. lol

Trust me, it's fast.

Mike, thanks for pointing out my videos hahaha. People must think I'm a quacko now

Quad core is essentially future proofing my computer. Think back in the day when Pentium 4's or Pentium II's. Trust me, they'll think of games and applications that will run on dual cores and eventually quad cores.

I do intensive music editing, video editing, and photoshop cs3. Gaming is my #1, but on the side I make movies.

4 1/2 years ago I bough this setup I have now. Neo 2 LS mobo with an unheard of 3.2Ghz extreme pentium and 800Mhz FSB and 2.0gb of PC3200 DDR2 SDRAM. Overkill yes, but it lasted me 4 1/2 years!!!!

I don't want a system that is great for a few months. This rig will last me a long time.

[Cr8tive_leo]

Noice setup, shoulda invested like me.. :)

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...603&CatId=1206

Needed the Dual Quads for Avid and some heavy Afterfx stuff. WOOT!

Yes, no keyboard, or mouse or Monitor either. (this is my third server)

[si_civic]

Leo, that's nuts. Did you have any trouble with Tigerdirect.ca?

I know you're in the same province, so shipping must've been fast. I was literally one click away from buying a rig through them until I read this:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/ma...TigerDirect.ca

nice rig (server!)

[Cr8tive_leo]

Just an addition to all this. Most video editing doesn't require heavy processor power, a lot of power is needed for doing visual effects with 3d animation, and now a lot of that is done on the video card, and not the processor.

I know with all our edit suites 99% of the editing is cuts based. 4 - 8 layers in Avid, render times for effects are for fades/wipes, are minimal on single Xeon boards. The heavy editors (Myself and another) have dual xeon machines with only 4gb ram, 500gb drive space. It's sufficient to keep video editing to a liveable state. But once we hit Afterfx, and I get crazy with 120 levels in a composition or more.. ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz... renders are a pain. *grins* (that's why one of the servers I have is 8 Xeon processors, computations are like snap!)

Minutes to render a video file? Dude.. I have 30sec - 1min pieces that take 3hrs of rendering on the initial go because of the effects (grins)

Edit edit edit... that reminds me, got a few more things to do before the new season starts... wee heee...

Originally Posted by dentrecords

Speaking of hunches.. I bet you didn't know that Darryl does create and edit videos.

CLAYBAR TUTORIAL! *Q&A* *VIDEO*
http://www.youtube.com/user/poofyfinger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDnMAlF_dzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-JTP060MLA

I'm willing to bet that in the next couple of years, most of the major audio and video editing suites will support multiple cores, whether dual or even 16. You can't charge thousands of dollars for editing software and not support soon to be very much mainstream technologies. As a bit of conjecture, I bought a 64 bit processor before windows supported it natively.. well, now it does.

As for showing you an application that can use that much processing power - try Steinberg Nuendo running dozens of VST synth instruments with multiple VST inserts and effects on each channel. Then route the outputs of each synth through a multi-out soundcard (sent to your mixing board, to run outboard effects through your discreet channel inserts) whilst recording 8 inputs simultaneously. If you're seriously into music production, it's pretty easy to max your CPU out... let alone the minutes at a time spent rendering a completely finished song, or video file.

I totally agree that for the general public, it's overkill. For Darryl, this seems to be a great setup for the long term.

[Cr8tive_leo]

Originally Posted by si_civic

Leo, that's nuts. Did you have any trouble with Tigerdirect.ca?

I know you're in the same province, so shipping must've been fast. I was literally one click away from buying a rig through them until I read this:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/ma...TigerDirect.ca

nice rig (server!)

Tiger Direct is just down the street *grins*

They ship from the states, even though their warehouse is in Markham. (weird) they're shipping is fast fast. I was pleased. No problems at all. Been dealing with them for years now. First computer I bought from them was about 4yrs ago, similar to your setup, $2,500 for an XPC with 2gb ram, large hd, etc. no monitor or keyboard or anything, Hyperthreading machine, one of the first, still does fine for Lightwave work.

[ryryninja]

Nice! I think its good money spent. Bet your system is nice and cool in the tower as well. 120mm fans and a 200mm fan. Wish my tower could hold that size. It would be nice and quiet.

[alpha]

Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

1) Vista was a mistake

Agreed. Not really because I think Vista is a piece of crap - I'm sure it's very nice but it was overdone with superficial nonsense that is cool to look at but completely useless when it comes down to productivity. Hell, the first thing I do on a new XP box is to disable the XP themes and go back to classic.

Upon first impression it seemed to me like Microsoft's priorities weren't straight when they started designing Vista. If not that, then they spent way too much time trying to pretty it up.

[I Vtec, do you?]

Ok well I was wrong on the vid editing haha..

BUT I will still not back down on the quad core. He spent 2gs on this computer and minus the quad core, mine is probably just as fast as his over a year later at around 1200. I'm willing to bet a large amount of his cost was the quad core, which will be cheaper soon.

Hardware prices for the computer go down in price SO fast that there is no point in buying quad core for the FUTURE when you could just buy it in the FUTURE for maybe half the price. Get what I'm saying? It's pointless to spend big bucks now on something that doesn't work well when you can buy it cheaper when it will work.

[JeShUa]

Originally Posted by Sprecher

Top-o-the line...for a little while anyway.

Try looking @ an alienware. :x
You'll look cheap.
http://alienware.com/product_detail_...de=SKU-DEFAULT

[skiddy]

Originally Posted by I Vtec, do you?

My thoughts..

1) Vista was a mistake

agreed

Not really. Vista is the only O/S you can play dx10 (enabled) games on. If he didn't have Vista he's be missing out on the performance and image quality benefits of dx10 in upcoming games like Bioshock and Crysis. He just spent $500+ on a top of the line video card... why would he want to limit himself through software?

Vista will be a necessity soon for the high end PC gamers. I get Ultimate for $34 through school so I'm not too worried


Overall, great setup. I will be making a jump like that soon, but I'm just waiting on the 2nd gen dx10 cards and AMD's barcelona chips.


p.s. Creative labs makes consumer video cards (or used to at least), but IIRC, they were mostly sold overseas. I remember seeing a lot of GeForce4 Creative cards.

[I Vtec, do you?]

Vista was a mistake because it was released WAY prematurely.

Vista on both of my computers freezes constantly. Before vista, XP worked flawlessly. Plus it has all these dumb ass little features that piss me off.. and it's just not fast. Plus the fact that nearly every night when I shut down, it has updates (a lot of them 'critical'). Maybe they shoulda just made it work right before releasing it.

And it's not just me, my brother and several friends of mine who run vista also have lots of freezing problems. Generally it happens when I have two program open, and then switch the screen from one to the other, the second one freezes for 20-30 seconds.

[TNguyen7]

Originally Posted by 2f2fc1v1c

ditto Macbook pro FTW

Once you go MAC, you will never go back

i'm with you on that one, just picked up my macbook this past weekend.. oh and bad ass setup by the way

[Razor4ever]

not trying to be a hard ass here but eVGA in my personal opinion sucks major ass, their quality is bad. The brands that I consider good are MSI, ASUS. But anyways that is a performance machine without no doubt. GL with it :).

BTW: the only thing its missing is a 2TB hdd

[skiddy]

Whether or not Vista is 'premature', he is going to need it to use full potential of his video card that costs more than any console system on the market. People said the same thing about XP when it first came out.

Vista ultimate works fine for my brother and I, and I have a couple of friends who have no problems as well. It is very demanding and uses quite a bit of resources, but there's already plenty of tweaks and quirks to make it run better. MS released some performance and compatibility packs a week or two back... I don't believe they're included in the automatic updates (at least they weren't when I installed them).

not trying to be a hard ass here but eVGA in my personal opinion sucks major ass, their quality is bad. The brands that I consider good are MSI, ASUS.

evga has a nice step up program tagged along with a lifetime warranty, where as MSI - 3 year, and Asus - 1 year. I admit evga's motherboards are ass, but they've only been in that market for about a year, so they're not very refined. Their VGA cards are top notch and they have excellent customer service from my experience.

[NewbTuner]

I don't think there is anything wrong with spending that kind of money on a comp.. my comp was almost 10k without a monitor or anything it only came with a keyboard and mouse :)

[I Vtec, do you?]

Originally Posted by Razor4ever

not trying to be a hard ass here but eVGA in my personal opinion sucks major ass, their quality is bad. The brands that I consider good are MSI, ASUS. But anyways that is a performance machine without no doubt. GL with it :).

BTW: the only thing its missing is a 2TB hdd

I have two eVGA vid cards in my computer and they're tops in my opinion. Over a year after buying the system and I can still run all the latest games on full specs without a trace of lagginess.