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Old 06-10-2007, 09:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Honda #4 in Quality Study
Today, I read in the NY Times that Honda's initial quality rating has increased by 2 spots.
J.D. Powers conducted a study of about 97,000 respondents over the first 90 days of ownership. The study indicates the number of problems per 100 vehicles that were reported.
The numbers in read indicate a change in ranking from lat year.
Here is the List:
1. Porsche (91)
2. Lexus (94)
3. Lincoln (100) +9
4. Honda (108) +2
5. Mercedes-Benz(111) +20
6.Jaguar (112) -1
7.Toyota (112) -2
8. Mercury (113) +8
9. Infiniti (117) -2
10. Ford (120) +5

17. Acura (130) -7

Of interest is that Honda is the only non-luxury brand in the top six.

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Old 06-10-2007, 09:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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LOL I thought it was reliability i was like WTF mercedes beat toyota?? But yea acura should defiantly be up there.
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i <3 my honda

do you have the link by any chance?
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Ford 125??? Wow
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Ford 125??? Wow
Sounds about right to me, LOL
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Today, I read in the NY Times that Honda's initial quality rating has increased by 2 spots.
J.D. Powers conducted a study of about 97,000 respondents over the first 90 days of ownership. The study indicates the number of problems per 100 vehicles that were reported.
The numbers in read indicate a change in ranking from lat year.
Here is the List:
1. Porsche (91)
2. Lexus (94)
3. Lincoln (100) +9
4. Honda (108) +2
5. Mercedes-Benz(111) +20
6.Jaguar (112) -1
7.Toyota (112) -2
8. Mercury (113) +8
9. Infiniti (117) -2
10. Ford (120) +5

17. Acura (130) -7

Of interest is that Honda is the only non-luxury brand in the top six.
After reading the thread topic I seriously didn't think I'd see Ford make the list four times let alone make 3rd. I take back everything bad I've ever said about Ford's quality. That is over half of the Ford Motor Company up there...wow.
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i <3 my honda

do you have the link by any chance?
The article is in the Auto section of Sunday's NY Times.
I'll post a scan manana.
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Good. BMW is not on that list .
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Initial Quality.

that means, what is it like when the car is brand new. it has nothing to do with reliability. infact, its quite the opposite of reliability.

ill also add, with "problems per _______ number" you never know the significance of the problem. could be something really small, could be something really big.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Good. BMW is not on that list .
im not sure what you mean by that.
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Please tell me how Lincoln beat out Honda?

We all know the are the exact same interiors as their identical Mercury and Ford counterparts, pretty much.
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Initial Quality.

that means, what is it like when the car is brand new. it has nothing to do with reliability. infact, its quite the opposite of reliability.

ill also add, with "problems per _______ number" you never know the significance of the problem. could be something really small, could be something really big.
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Please tell me how Lincoln beat out Honda?

We all know the are the exact same interiors as their identical Mercury and Ford counterparts, pretty much.

That means old farts just can't see or hear well enough to tell that their barcalounger-on-wheels is junk.
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Please tell me how Lincoln beat out Honda?

We all know the are the exact same interiors as their identical Mercury and Ford counterparts, pretty much.
who says they've only included the counterparts.
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Honda FTW...
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Please tell me how Lincoln beat out Honda?

We all know the are the exact same interiors as their identical Mercury and Ford counterparts, pretty much.
I don't know about all Lincolns,but the Towncars are nice,and are the same basic car as a Crown Vic and Grand Marquise.This platform has a very good record,and has been used for a long time.Anyway,I had a 99 Vic that I sold when I bought my 07 Si,and to tell you the truth,the Honda is in no way assembled any better than the Vic was.It is more fun to drive,though.
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I'm not one to rag on American car companies, it just seems bizarre to me.

Civic aside, I can't imagine how any Lincoln vehicle is assembled better than a Honda. We all know our Civic's have some uh...fundamental issues.
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the dealer has alot to do with it also. i know that Porsche does ALOT of prep on a car when it comes in. vigorous inspections. its possible that Lincoln dealers inspect new cars for problems more carefully than Ford, and subsequentally fix them before they are sold.
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Dosnt really suprise me, pretty cool list
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