[Vent] damn i hate people![/vent]

[trickyazn]

^ who me? i never had problems. haha

[PK-]

hey man you're young, go have fun with your real friends and screw the drama

[Skyline4life]

Originally Posted by PK-

hey man you're young, go have fun with your real friends and screw the drama

blah i only typed this thread up when i was pissed off...But things are better nowish haha..

but yea i hate drama..thats why i left a group of friends..thats all it was.

[maximus20895]

some girls dont really care for "nice guys", they see them more as friends not someone they would like to date.

**DATING QUESTION FROM A READER***

Hi David. I appreciate the service you provide to
us single (and I'm sure some not-so-single) men
out here. I am preparing to download your book as
soon as I am done with this email. About a week
ago at work, a girl that I have known for about a
year now and I were talking about things to do in
the city. She suggested that we should maybe hang
out sometime, and all I said was "I don't think
you could handle this " -- and boom -- she was
hooked! I was totally amazed first of all that I
said anything like that, and second that it really
worked!

Now my question: I was at a bar the other night
and ran into a girl that I knew and somewhat hung
out with about 4 years ago and have not seen her
since. She said she was single, and told me to
get my phone out because she was going to give me
her phone number. This is a girl that I have
always (wanted), and now that I have the chance
I'm starting to get cold feet. I've set-up a lunch
for this week, but I'm not sure since we already
know each other if I should still do the cocky +
funny deal or stick with (my usual) nice guy
routine?

Thanks again!

Wussy in Wichita. (LOL)

>>> >>>MY COMMENTS:

Hmmmm...

Finally, for once in your life, you try being
Cocky & Funny with a girl - and she eats it up -
and then you ask if you should do it again?

The main question in my mind right now is:

Should I personally slap you, or should I just
have you slap yourself?

Here are a couple of great formulas for you to
remember:

1) Cold Feet = Cold/Dry Other Things Below The
Waist

2) The "Usual Nice Guy Routine" = See Formula
#1

Let's talk about these ideas.

If you ever hear a woman say the words, "He's
nice", you can pull out all the money you have on
you and bet that she's not ATTRACTED to the guy
she's talking about.

Women don't use the word "Nice" to describe men
that they're FEELING it for.

So, why would you want to use the "usual nice
guy routine"? What? You want to make SURE she
never feels anything other than friendship for
you?

Hmmmmm.

What you're telling me here is that you knew
this super-babe four years ago, but the "nice guy"
rap didn't make anything happen then... so you're
thinking that if you pour it on twice as thick, it
might work better this time?

Hmmmmm.

Here's a good rule of thumb:

If your behavior isn't getting you the
consistent results that you'd like to get, CHANGE
IT.

Do ANYTHING different.

I'm serious here.

If what you're doing isn't working, DO
SOMETHING ELSE IMMEDIATELY!

And, if you've FOUND SOMETHING that works, then
KEEP DOING IT!

(Hint: In case you haven't figured it out, I
think you should ix-nay the ice-nay uy-*** outine-
ray.)

And, I don't think it's a coincidence that the
words "nice guy" translate into "ICE-NAY UY-***"
in Pig Latin.

Read that again, because it was pretty funny.

In summary, I think you might want to stick
with the cocky & funny personality. It's working
for more than a few guys out there, and it can
work for you (as you've seen).

Also, it sounds like you could use a STRONG
dose of a type of medicine that you can ONLY get
by going HERE... and I'm not kidding, so check it
out:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.c...HLZ&lid=2&ll=1

On a side topic...

From the way I talk, you might start to get the
idea that I'm against being nice to women.

Quite the contrary.

I think that it's great to be nice to women.

Just do it in a way that doesn't make them
think of you as a "nice guy."

Oh, that sounds interesting.

So, the question is: How can I be nice without
making her see me as a super-wussy who would pay a
hundred dollars just to have one quick dig through
her dresser?

I just figured out how to say this in a simple,
concise way... so listen up:

BE COCKY & FUNNY, AND BUST HER BALLS WITH YOUR
WORDS, BUT BE NICE TO HER WITH YOUR BEHAVIOR.

Wow, that was cool. Nice and simple.

So, here are a few examples:

1) Tell her that she walks slower than your mom,
then open all doors for her.

2) Tell her that she's too uptight and she needs
to settle down because it's annoying, then rub her
shoulders.

3) Give her a hard time about her driving, then
kiss her.

Are you with me?

One of the concepts that I talk about in my
book, "Double Your Dating", is ALWAYS SEND MIXED
MESSAGES.

Why would you want to send mixed messages?

Because it's interesting.

Because if it's done right, it's attractive.

Because attractive women are fascinated by it
when it's mixed with a cocky & funny personality.

I hope that those reasons work for you.

Attractive women are sooooo over guys who kiss
up to them, buy them things, take them out, and
act "nice".

Attractive women are looking for something
different.

A challenge. A spark. Sassy, cheeky, mouthy,
ballsy, witty, charming. An unpredictable, funny
guy like yourself to take her attention, and run
with it.

Now, how unpredictable is "nice"? How much of a
challenge is "nice"? How much of a spark is in
"nice"?

Exactly. Not much.

So, in summary: Be nice... but do it on your
own terms. And mix nice BEHAVIOR with COCKY &
FUNNY COMMUNICATION.

This magical combination will keep her interest
for as long as you'd like to have it.

Remember, attractive women are different. They
know that they can have anything they want. SO
DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM... and they'll love you.

Does this sound "counterintuitive" to you?

Good. It is. And it works like gangbusters.

Remember this:

You need to understand how ATTRACTION works for
women and you need to do those things that keep
the ATTRACTION BUILDING FOREVER.

Now, where does this all begin?

It begins with YOU.

And, it begins with you learning how to control
yourself and your emotions. It begins with you
needing to understand the history of how and why
men and women become attracted to each other. It
begins with you learning the basics of how to use
subtle body language and communication to make
women feel ATTRACTION for you.

I really believe that there's more than meets
the eye when it comes to success with women and
dating.

The process that creates the magic emotion of
ATTRACTION is mysterious, seemingly illogical, and
"counterintuitive". If you don't understand it,
then it just won't make sense.

It's taken me literally YEARS to be able to
both attract women AND be able to EXPLAIN how to
do it.

My newest book, "Attraction Isn't A Choice", is
the most detailed, in-depth explanation of
attraction available ANYWHERE... and it will take
you "behind the scenes" of the female "attraction
mechanism" and teach you how to create attraction
using only your personality and communication...
no money or gifts required.

and another one...

Here's the thing I want you to consider first:

I was reading an article on AOL titled "What's
Wrong With Nice Guys?"... here's a little quote
from the article:

"...Do Women Date Naughty Guys but Marry Nice
Ones? This notion sounds an awful lot like the
irritating good-girl/bad-girl distinction that men
continue to make. Still, it does contain a nugget
of sense. Since women truly are conditioned to be
"good girls," sometimes we feel uncomfortable with
or guilty about that pure burning "I must have
him!" feeling. That's why we sometimes seek out a
bad boy to serve as the object of these desires,
says Cleveland psychotherapist Belleruth
Naparstek, creator of the Health Journeys series
of guided imagery tapes. "In order for the
deliciousness of pure lust to be 'okay,' it has to
be for the symbolic bad boy who has nothing to do
with the rest of your life. With him, you can
crank up your animal impulses, worry-free," she
says...."

Interesting, isn't it?

Now, I personally disagree with the idea that
women "seek out" Bad Boys because they need
somewhere to "project their guilty lust"... and I
disagree with the idea that there's something
"wrong" with the fact that women are attracted to
Bad Boys...

But the point is that the "mainstream"
psychology and behavior world is starting to
accept the idea that women are ATTRACTED to "Bad
Boys".

It will probably be another ten years before
anyone with a degree puts two and two together and
says, "Hey, maybe women feel ATTRACTION towards
Bad Boys for natural, evolutionary reasons, and
that's why Bad Boys are considered "sexy"..."

Hell, maybe I should say it... Oh wait, I
already did...

Whatever.

Point is, there's something to the idea that
woman don't feel that powerful GUT LEVEL
ATTRACTION for "nice" guys who chase after them
and kiss up to them.

Women do, on the other hand, feel that magical
emotion called ATTRACTION for BAD BOYS.

Of course, I don't believe that you MUST be a
jerk, or abuse women in order to make them feel
attracted to you. There's a much better way...

OK...now for THE HOMEWORK...

Here's what I want you to do...

If you own my eBook "Double Your Dating", go to
chapter 4, and read it again.

If you own my Advanced Series, I'd like you to
go to Day 2, Section 1, and review again.

(If you don't own these yet, then you need to
get them immediately! You're cheating yourself if
you don't invest in YOURSELF in this area...
really.)

Now, I want you to do something CONSCIOUSLY
this week.

I want you to do the following with the next 5
women that you talk to over the next few days...
(these should be women that you would be
interested in dating):

1) Smile all the time.

2) Be very nice, cordial, and friendly. Use no
sarcasm, and don't tease.

3) Act as if you really "like" the woman you're
talking to... and as if you're "interested" in
her.

4) Give her lots of compliments.

5) Optional: Politely say, "You probably have a
boyfriend, right? Can I take you out sometime?"

Pay careful attention, and notice how the
women respond to you.

Now, I want you to try something different with
the NEXT 5 women you talk to...

1) Don't smile very often.

2) Pretend that you've known her for 20 years, and
that you're TOO comfortable around her. Tease her
for something that no one teases her about... like
the way she dresses, etc.

3) Pretend that she's interested in YOU, and has
been pursuing YOU, and that you're resisting her.
Make jokes about it and say things like, "I just
don't think things are going to work out between
us".

4) Give her NO compliments of any kind. If she
gives you any say, "That's a cheesy pick up line.
Can't you think of something more original?"

5) Optional: Say, "Hey, do you have email? Good.
Write it down here..."

...and pay attention to the difference.

If you really "play it up", you'll notice a
HUGE difference between the first five women you
talk to and the next five.

During the first set of five, when you're being
a "Nice Wuss", you'll see the looks on the women's
faces that say, "Oh no. Another guy who "likes"
me. How can I get rid of him politely?..."

During the SECOND set of five, you'll see the
women opening their mouths with the "half smile,
half oh-no-you-didn't-just-say-that" look. You'll
feel a TENSION in the air. You'll notice that some
of the women will actually look at you as if they
can't believe what they're hearing.

If you're particularly sharp and funny, you
might just have one or two of them say, "I like
you... we have to hang out sometime" within the
first few minutes of the conversation. By the way,
you will NEVER hear that when you're playing the
"Nice Wuss".

(SIDE NOTE: I once went out with some friends
and while taking pictures of them, I overheard
this girl talking to her friend. I took what she
and her friend were talking about and I teased her
about it... And within no more than 60 seconds the
girl was saying, "Ohmygod, I like you! We need to
hang out sometime..." - Really.)

Do your homework! And have FUN while you're at
it.

[Driving91LX]

Originally Posted by trickyazn

some guys just arnt ment to have girls.

sorry your one of them.

friends only ftl.

Haha! Thanks for the laugh! Hopefully his problem is not that extreme.

[Tom1222]

Dude, if you are making your mom cry perhaps you are not as "nice" as you think you are. The same with other girls. You have to be sensitive to their needs and not just trying to be nice to them thinking they will like you for it and then if it doesn't go your way fly off the handle. That behavior my friend will get you nowhere. Step back and ask yourself how do people really see you. You maybe "Nice" but it seems to me also a bit selfish and someone with a temper.

If you really like a girl then don't just be nice to her be her friend and really get to know her. Respond to her needs and not just to yours.
"Listen" Too many men make the same mistake and don't listen or only hear what they want to hear. I am sure you are a good guy deep down but just need to grow up a little more. Give it time you will see, everything will turn out well

[06BlackSi]

Originally Posted by Tom1222

Dude, if you are making your mom cry perhaps you are not as "nice" as you think you are. The same with other girls. You have to be sensitive to their needs and not just trying to be nice to them thinking they will like you for it and then if it doesn't go your way fly off the handle. That behavior my friend will get you nowhere. Step back and ask yourself how do people really see you. You maybe "Nice" but it seems to me also a bit selfish and someone with a temper.

If you really like a girl then don't just be nice to her be her friend and really get to know her. Respond to her needs and not just to yours.
"Listen" Too many men make the same mistake and don't listen or only hear what they want to hear. I am sure you are a good guy deep down but just need to grow up a little more. Give it time you will see, everything will turn out well

good advice...

give it about... oh... i would say... 10 years

[adoBoy619]

Originally Posted by Skyline4life

thats true..and so far iv shut a few people out of my life who i thought was my friends..But now they can all kiss my knees :P

hell yeah!!!...we all see eye to eye on that bullshit...

[adoBoy619]

Originally Posted by trickyazn

some guys just arnt ment to have girls.

sorry your one of them.

friends only ftl.

LMAO...

[Emmy83]

As a girl first off we are all bitches deep down inside, some just show it more then others. But dont make it vocal by calling girls names like that it makes you look like a jackass and a Di^K Head. You need a nice girl beacuse your a nice guy. Dont think they are hard to find beacuse they are not it sounds like your just looking in the wrong places. Have fun............................................... .................................................. ................................... girls will always be there.

PS- I agree people suck 50% of the time

[fourtwizzy]

girls don't like wussys...

[6ft5inAllMan]

Hey, I am a nice guy just like you and the same thing use to happen to me, so I stop being as nice and it worked.

[TheRumBucket]

have to agree, the girl i'm dating now, liked her for a bout 2 years, but kept quiet about it, always tried to be the nice guy. so i legitimately became an ass to her cause she pissed me off...next thing iknow we're dating. hot stuff man. and by ass, i mean tease her, poke at her, etc, but not straight forward jerk to her...if that makes sense, probably not.

[Only a R18]

Being a nice guy works 10% of the time. Its sick how the world works. But most girls will always go with the guys that treat them like crap, it just happens that way. I guess they just don't like things that come too easily?? But yah its annoying as hell how it works this way, i hear you man.

[TheRumBucket]

i don't really think it's a case of "guy who treats a girl like crap," i think it's more of a case of "guy playing hard to get"