So i think im going to take up buddhism...

Skyline4life · 05-15-2007, 11:21 PM

I'm starting to get pissed off at getting pissed off at the dumbest things..and at people that i shunt.

This girl i know shes buddist so i think i may give it a try..I had no idea were to start and she said "Be happy all the time and don't want things"

i said "Bulderdash! i want stuff for my car!"

So for now ima at least try the 'always be happy'

who's with me?!

datbacker59 · 05-15-2007, 11:26 PM

well... my fathers side of the family is buddhist and they are just fine! me personally i have devoted too much time and belief into christianity to just drop it and leave

Relentless00 · 05-15-2007, 11:29 PM

I think all religion is bullshit but thats just my opinion :)

***GETxERxDONE*** · 05-15-2007, 11:31 PM

oh boy..religion...

im half Hebrew and half..i dunno. my dad (the Jew) wasnt around for most of my younger years so my mom didnt wanna make me go to church and not let my dad have his say in it. so i really never had a religion. i kinda like it that way. when you are an outsider in religions, you see waaaay too much contradiction in all of them. you dont have to go to church, nor do you have to have a specific religion to believe in God

***jpik2003*** · 05-15-2007, 11:35 PM

and here with go with the religion war.

Dark.GEAR · 05-15-2007, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datbacker59

well... my fathers side of the family is buddhist and they are just fine! me personally i have devoted too much time and belief into christianity to just drop it and leave

umm...you should take in whatever you believe in...not matter how long you have been whatever you are.

ps. being "Buddhist" would be best if you really didn't see it as a religion...in which it never was originally meant to be

e60.deluxe · 05-16-2007, 12:26 AM

buddhism is not a religion. you dont need to abondon your religion, or even have a religion to practice buddhism. the original concept of buddhism is extremly simple, and it will not conflit with any religion that i know of.

when it started to spread, espicially in eastern asia, it got stuffed with a bunch of 'sheeple control'

i personally dont agree with, and am personally an atheist, but i have a bit of extra respect for people who truley practice true buddhism.

Dark.GEAR · 05-16-2007, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

buddhism is not a religion. you dont need to abondon your religion, or even have a religion to practice buddhism. the original concept of buddhism is extremly simple, and it will not conflit with any religion that i know of.

when it started to spread, espicially in eastern asia, it got stuffed with a bunch of 'sheeple control'

i personally dont agree with, and am personally an atheist, but i have a bit of extra respect for people who truley practice true buddhism.

lol....buddhism is a religion.... It turned into a religion no matter how far it spun off! Whats wrong with people who practice this "non-true" buddhism? Can you honestly say they are any better or worst than does who practice "true" buddhism? People will believe and do as they must. That doesn't make them any less of a person.

Skylinegtr06 · 05-16-2007, 01:13 AM

+1 Buddhism is a philosphy more than religion, Buddha is a real person, a philosopher not a god like all other religions.
many Asians practice Confucianism without even knowing it

Dark.GEAR · 05-16-2007, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skylinegtr06

+1 Buddhism is a philosphy more than religion, Buddha is a real person, a philosopher not a god like all other religions.
many Asians practice Confucianism without even knowing it

but look at people now...they worship him and what not...so to them, buddhism is a religion. It is what they make it to be...

i love these religion conversations...

Skylinegtr06 · 05-16-2007, 01:20 AM

I mean in essence, I admit that buddha has turned into a godlike figure all over the world(My parents have a fat buddha statue). But for us who have studied world history know that buddha was a real person who just created a philosophy on how life should be.

Dark.GEAR · 05-16-2007, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skylinegtr06

I mean in essence, I admit that buddha has turned into a godlike figure all over the world(My parents have a fat buddha statue). But for us who have studied world history know that buddha was a real person who just created a philosophy on how life should be.

even for those who have studied and know the facts of any religion, it's all about their belief *edit* and faith */edit*...even if they are wrong....it's still a religion...hope i'm clear with what i'm trying to say...

Skylinegtr06 · 05-16-2007, 01:35 AM

Alright, seeing that I am no expert on religion I would have to say that analyzing belief systems cannot be done accurately and without influence to bias opinion. So I will leave it at this, what factors truly constitute a religion and how does one know the factors

**firmhonda** · 05-16-2007, 01:53 AM

I didn't read any posts.. but you should read "Tao Te Ching."

It always made me feel more peaceful and clear. I really need to pick up another copy.

Here is a preview link.. some pages are taken out, others are direct scans.

http://books.google.com/books?id=76M...t&cd=2#PPT9,M1

Here's an exerpt(sp):

Thirty spokes are joined at the wheels hub--
it is the empty that allows it to turn.
Clay is used to make pots--
it is the empty hollow that retains objects.
Doors and windows enclose a house--
it is the empty space that gives it form.
Tools are used to create in a material world--
their usefulness is born from what doesn't exist.

Ah, it is "this" that makes things useful

e60.deluxe · 05-16-2007, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark.GEAR

lol....buddhism is a religion.... It turned into a religion no matter how far it spun off! Whats wrong with people who practice this "non-true" buddhism? Can you honestly say they are any better or worst than does who practice "true" buddhism? People will believe and do as they must. That doesn't make them any less of a person.

who said anything is wrong? where did i say that.

i said i dont belive in true buddhism, so because OF that, i made sure i said i respect people who practice it. for example, there are people who say they dont belive in atheism, but they do not respect atheists. i was just clarifying thats not the case with me.

i didnt say any about modern buddhism so i didnt think i have to say anything about that. for one thing, this can vary greatly from where you are from, china, india, japan, tibet, they all add different things in, so i decide to jsut stick with talkin about the basics.

e60.deluxe · 05-16-2007, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark.GEAR

even for those who have studied and know the facts of any religion, it's all about their belief *edit* and faith */edit*...even if they are wrong....it's still a religion...hope i'm clear with what i'm trying to say...

its not a religion, because it doesnt have to do with believing or having faith in anything. il give you an example, in abrahamic religions, its a *belief* that if you behave well, you will go to a sort of heaven. and in hinduism, its a *belief* that if you behave badly you will be reborn as a lower caste.

there is none of that in buddhism. theres nothing to believe, theres nothing to have faith in.

**firmhonda** · 05-16-2007, 02:34 AM

Okay, as far as this whole religion debate is I only have one thing to say..

I believe in God, but not the bible. I don't think that the color of text changes how important it really is.. especially since it was all written by men that were the same as you and I. When I think about the kind of men that possibly could've written (misinturpreted) parts of the bible, I picture men like David Coresh.. Not to say that I have anything against anyone for their religion, that's just the way that I see things.

When I'm in what I consider to be serious distress, I pray to God and Jesus.. not to the people that have written down what they think God and Jesus said 2000+ years ago. BUT, I find books like Tao Te Ching to be more relaxing and would rather read them than the bible anyday. I find that it opens up the thought process instead of dragging it by a chain and forcing it to one direction. You can take from it something different every single time you read it.

I respect just about every religion out there, I just don't respect the few people that give specific religions bad names. My aunt, for example, is a hardcore catholic. She uses everyone around her, treats her family like ****, lays around the house all day eating, won't let her children experience a normal life, and preaches to me every single time I see her about how I live my life wrong. She gives catholics a bad name, and no matter how ignorant it is, I will never step foot in a catholic church because of her.
IDK what the point is of the last section of my post.. but I'm hungry.. it's peanut butter jelly time.

***GalaxyGreySi*** · 05-16-2007, 02:47 AM

Yes. i agree.

It IS peanut butter jelly time!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdnZ3SUkW3U

***GalaxyGreySi*** · 05-16-2007, 02:50 AM

why lock?????????????????????????????

honda06si · 05-16-2007, 02:52 AM

religion is the most sensitive topic. i wanted to come in and see why the OP was going to buddhism and what not and i come in and see other religions getting put down. everyone has their opinion, which is fine. but not here

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Skyline4life Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mundelein, IL Age: 19 Posts: 3,016 Evan iTrader: 0 / 0%	So i think im going to take up buddhism... I'm starting to get pissed off at getting pissed off at the dumbest things..and at people that i shunt. This girl i know shes buddist so i think i may give it a try..I had no idea were to start and she said "Be happy all the time and don't want things" i said "Bulderdash! i want stuff for my car!" So for now ima at least try the 'always be happy' who's with me?!

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datbacker59 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Age: 20 Posts: 2,257 Its a Live2Hustle Thang... iTrader: 3 / 100%	well... my fathers side of the family is buddhist and they are just fine! me personally i have devoted too much time and belief into christianity to just drop it and leave

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Relentless00 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston TX Posts: 469 IM LINK iTrader: 0 / 0%	I think all religion is bullshit but thats just my opinion :)

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*GETxERxDONE* Dont Mess With This Zohan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Age: 22 Posts: 7,722 Nick iTrader: 3 / 100%	oh boy..religion... im half Hebrew and half..i dunno. my dad (the Jew) wasnt around for most of my younger years so my mom didnt wanna make me go to church and not let my dad have his say in it. so i really never had a religion. i kinda like it that way. when you are an outsider in religions, you see waaaay too much contradiction in all of them. you dont have to go to church, nor do you have to have a specific religion to believe in God

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*jpik2003* RAWRRR Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago Age: 20 Posts: 4,598 Jack iTrader: 0 / 0%	and here with go with the religion war.

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e60.deluxe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lake Forest, CA Age: 22 Posts: 4,901 iTrader: 3 / 100%	buddhism is not a religion. you dont need to abondon your religion, or even have a religion to practice buddhism. the original concept of buddhism is extremly simple, and it will not conflit with any religion that i know of. when it started to spread, espicially in eastern asia, it got stuffed with a bunch of 'sheeple control' i personally dont agree with, and am personally an atheist, but i have a bit of extra respect for people who truley practice true buddhism.

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Skylinegtr06 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chula Vista SD Age: 18 Posts: 5,745 edwyn(male) iTrader: 1 / 100%	+1 Buddhism is a philosphy more than religion, Buddha is a real person, a philosopher not a god like all other religions. many Asians practice Confucianism without even knowing it

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Skylinegtr06 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chula Vista SD Age: 18 Posts: 5,745 edwyn(male) iTrader: 1 / 100%	I mean in essence, I admit that buddha has turned into a godlike figure all over the world(My parents have a fat buddha statue). But for us who have studied world history know that buddha was a real person who just created a philosophy on how life should be.

05-16-2007, 01:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
Skylinegtr06 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chula Vista SD Age: 18 Posts: 5,745 edwyn(male) iTrader: 1 / 100%	Alright, seeing that I am no expert on religion I would have to say that analyzing belief systems cannot be done accurately and without influence to bias opinion. So I will leave it at this, what factors truly constitute a religion and how does one know the factors

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firmhonda My words are wise, My face is beard Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DF-Dub Age: 25 Posts: 9,942 Justin Credible. iTrader: 0 / 0%	I didn't read any posts.. but you should read "Tao Te Ching." It always made me feel more peaceful and clear. I really need to pick up another copy. Here is a preview link.. some pages are taken out, others are direct scans. http://books.google.com/books?id=76M...t&cd=2#PPT9,M1 Here's an exerpt(sp): Thirty spokes are joined at the wheels hub-- it is the empty that allows it to turn. Clay is used to make pots-- it is the empty hollow that retains objects. Doors and windows enclose a house-- it is the empty space that gives it form. Tools are used to create in a material world-- their usefulness is born from what doesn't exist. Ah, it is "this" that makes things useful

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firmhonda My words are wise, My face is beard Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DF-Dub Age: 25 Posts: 9,942 Justin Credible. iTrader: 0 / 0%	Okay, as far as this whole religion debate is I only have one thing to say.. I believe in God, but not the bible. I don't think that the color of text changes how important it really is.. especially since it was all written by men that were the same as you and I. When I think about the kind of men that possibly could've written (misinturpreted) parts of the bible, I picture men like David Coresh.. Not to say that I have anything against anyone for their religion, that's just the way that I see things. When I'm in what I consider to be serious distress, I pray to God and Jesus.. not to the people that have written down what they think God and Jesus said 2000+ years ago. BUT, I find books like Tao Te Ching to be more relaxing and would rather read them than the bible anyday. I find that it opens up the thought process instead of dragging it by a chain and forcing it to one direction. You can take from it something different every single time you read it. I respect just about every religion out there, I just don't respect the few people that give specific religions bad names. My aunt, for example, is a hardcore catholic. She uses everyone around her, treats her family like ****, lays around the house all day eating, won't let her children experience a normal life, and preaches to me every single time I see her about how I live my life wrong. She gives catholics a bad name, and no matter how ignorant it is, I will never step foot in a catholic church because of her. IDK what the point is of the last section of my post.. but I'm hungry.. it's peanut butter jelly time.

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honda06si Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 11,150 justin iTrader: 6 / 100%	religion is the most sensitive topic. i wanted to come in and see why the OP was going to buddhism and what not and i come in and see other religions getting put down. everyone has their opinion, which is fine. but not here