First Bike need some help.

edciv · 05-14-2007, 12:16 PM

So i'm in the market for my first motorcycle.. i'm not too sure what to do.. i'm 20 years old and i'm selling my quad because i do not have the time to ride it. i'm also selling the trailer that i used to tow it around with. so all in all i'll probably come out with like $4500 to use for a bike. i know for $5000 i could get a nice used sport bike, is this the route to go? or should i spend like $2000 to get an older one that i'm not so into to learn to ride on.. there's no doubt in my mind that i could learn how to ride just fine on a 600cc sport bike but me and my father have an on going dispute about it so i was thinking about just going for a smaller bike to appease him for 6 months then buying one that i want.. any and all feedback is appreciated.

honda06si · 05-14-2007, 12:28 PM

i learned on a cbr 600 that i paid 3000 for. i had never rode a bike in my life, nor a dirt bike. and i learned just fine.

however i would reccomend going ahead and either getting a cheaper 600 or the get the one your not so into

edciv · 05-14-2007, 12:34 PM

the only reason i can justify getting a 600cc is because i know someone who wants to sell me a 2005 bike with 800 miles on it for 5 grand.. so it will cost me like $500 out of my pocket, which isn't a big hit.. i'm just not sure, i know i'll have no problem with it at all. i already know how to ride, i've been on my quad for 2 years and rode my uncles honda goldwing before.. the goldwing is a car with 2 wheels, its friggen huge

honda06si · 05-14-2007, 12:34 PM

well i would go ahead and get the one for $5000

Big-Mike · 05-14-2007, 12:55 PM

I say get a sv650s or ninja 650r. Those have a little more power, but are still pretty much universally considered good first bikes and even choice of experienced riders. Ninja 500r and Suzuki GS500 are also good for starters. Lastly the Ninja 250R which you can get brand new for $3k.

Quad and sport bikes are different and riding a bike and owning one are diff too. Not gonna go there though.

If you just want to please your father and learn at the same time I say get a ninja 250r. You can get used like $2000 and then sell it back in 6 months for $2250 if you wax it before you sell it. At worse you can sell for what you paid for it unless you mess it up.

***GeezerSi*** · 05-14-2007, 12:58 PM

Buy what you want. If it doesn't work out, sell it. If you wheel and deal correctly, you shouldn't lose hardly any money if you change your mind.

SIis4ME · 05-14-2007, 01:10 PM

Buddy,

I have 20 years or riding-Racing experience, my best advice to you is first think about what kind of riding you want to do, after you decide definately buy a beater "a bike you won't care about dropping" because you will drop it, is inevitable maybe just once e maybe many times but get something rugged an older 02 03 CBR 600 perfect starter bike this way when you are ready to upgrade to nicer ride in about a 1 or 2 seasons you will have the extra bucks. Get a bike where your feet are planted firmly on the ground no tipping toeing. A good helmet and remember it's not a car and mistakes can cost you your ass. I have lost 3 friends in the 20 years of riding I currently own a 2006 GSXR-1000 and it still scares me sometimes. You are young and the throttle can be addictive and that is ok just control yourself so you can ride another day :)
My boy is 7 and I just got him a honda 50 and he is starting to push it and I allow it within reason and I try my hardest to teach him everything I know but he is young and doesn't allways look ahead when he does crazy shit and I don't want him to get hurt, Does your DAD ride? is he scared for you? is he supportive?

***GeezerSi*** · 05-14-2007, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIis4ME

Buddy,

I have 20 years or riding-Racing experience, my best advice to you is first think about what kind of riding you want to do, after you decide definately buy a beater "a bike you won't care about dropping" because you will drop it, is inevitable maybe just once e maybe many times but get something rugged an older 02 03 CBR 600 perfect starter bike this way when you are ready to upgrade to nicer ride in about a 1 or 2 seasons you will have the extra bucks. Get a bike where your feet are planted firmly on the ground no tipping toeing. A good helmet and remember it's not a car and mistakes can cost you your ass. I have lost 3 friends in the 20 years of riding I currently own a 2006 GSXR-1000 and it still scares me sometimes. You are young and the throttle can be addictive and that is ok just control yourself so you can ride another day :)
My boy is 7 and I just got him a honda 50 and he is starting to push it and I allow it within reason and I try my hardest to teach him everything I know but he is young and doesn't allways look ahead when he does crazy shit and I don't want him to get hurt, Does your DAD ride? is he scared for you? is he supportive?

Also, consider enrolling in a rider safety program if they have it in your area. In PA, it is free, teaches you a lot of important rider knowledge, and in many cases reduces your insurance.

Drew303 · 05-14-2007, 02:20 PM

I started riding on a 05 CBR 600RR, but I have ridden dirtbikes since I was a kid. If you have no experience, I would get an older CBR F2, or F4i.

Seemund · 05-14-2007, 02:23 PM

I don't have any experience, but i just love it!! Want to buy one, when i get the chance.. My father is totally against it.. says its for stupid ppl who wants to die..
Well.. I'm on many bike forums, and the first thing they'll tell you is: get a 250, 500 MAX.. if you go any bigger, they will flame you

Better to learn, etc etc..

TommyD · 05-14-2007, 02:31 PM

MSF beginner and experienced courses.
Plan on $1k for gear, at minimum armored leather jacket, armored gloves, armored motorcycle boots, and a good helmet. I'd also suggest armored leather pants and/or a suit (Aerostitch Roadcrafter). Either way get your gear.

As for a bike, SV650. I wouldn't suggest getting a 600cc sportbike for your first bike, too much plastic for you to damage. The SV650 is best rec I can give you for a first bike.

edciv · 05-14-2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIis4ME

Buddy,

I have 20 years or riding-Racing experience, my best advice to you is first think about what kind of riding you want to do, after you decide definately buy a beater "a bike you won't care about dropping" because you will drop it, is inevitable maybe just once e maybe many times but get something rugged an older 02 03 CBR 600 perfect starter bike this way when you are ready to upgrade to nicer ride in about a 1 or 2 seasons you will have the extra bucks. Get a bike where your feet are planted firmly on the ground no tipping toeing. A good helmet and remember it's not a car and mistakes can cost you your ass. I have lost 3 friends in the 20 years of riding I currently own a 2006 GSXR-1000 and it still scares me sometimes. You are young and the throttle can be addictive and that is ok just control yourself so you can ride another day :)
My boy is 7 and I just got him a honda 50 and he is starting to push it and I allow it within reason and I try my hardest to teach him everything I know but he is young and doesn't allways look ahead when he does crazy shit and I don't want him to get hurt, Does your DAD ride? is he scared for you? is he supportive?

no my father does not ride.. he retired as a cop in 2005, was one for 23 years.. all he keeps telling me is about how many people he's seen dead from motorcycle accidents. he knows i'm not scared of them, and i can't be scared because of what happened to other people. i can see why i should get a smaller bike to learn on.. i just don't want to lose money upgrading.. that's the whole reason i didn't get the Si cause i'd lose too much to upgrade. i don't know i just wanted some opinions.. i appreciate all the feedback, i'm leaning towards getting an older smaller bike to start out with because honestly it probably is the best thing to do.

**dentrecords** · 05-14-2007, 04:45 PM

I endorse the SV650 as a good first bike, but don't wring the throttle to start off with.. take a safety course, even if you claim to have experience on a quad bike - it's not the same thing... again, be prepared to drop it.. it almost universally happens. Be careful and good luck!

consumer22 · 05-14-2007, 05:57 PM

Lots of good advice. If I were 20, I would call my insurance company and see how much they want for different bikes. Many go by engine size. I assume you don't want to pay too much for insurance. It doesn't matter much for my age bracket anymore but I remember when over 600ccs made a big difference. As for what to buy, buy what you like.

05-14-2007, 12:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
edciv Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 612 iTrader: 0 / 0%	First Bike need some help. So i'm in the market for my first motorcycle.. i'm not too sure what to do.. i'm 20 years old and i'm selling my quad because i do not have the time to ride it. i'm also selling the trailer that i used to tow it around with. so all in all i'll probably come out with like $4500 to use for a bike. i know for $5000 i could get a nice used sport bike, is this the route to go? or should i spend like $2000 to get an older one that i'm not so into to learn to ride on.. there's no doubt in my mind that i could learn how to ride just fine on a 600cc sport bike but me and my father have an on going dispute about it so i was thinking about just going for a smaller bike to appease him for 6 months then buying one that i want.. any and all feedback is appreciated.

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05-14-2007, 12:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
honda06si Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 11,158 justin iTrader: 6 / 100%	i learned on a cbr 600 that i paid 3000 for. i had never rode a bike in my life, nor a dirt bike. and i learned just fine. however i would reccomend going ahead and either getting a cheaper 600 or the get the one your not so into

05-14-2007, 12:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
edciv Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 612 iTrader: 0 / 0%	the only reason i can justify getting a 600cc is because i know someone who wants to sell me a 2005 bike with 800 miles on it for 5 grand.. so it will cost me like $500 out of my pocket, which isn't a big hit.. i'm just not sure, i know i'll have no problem with it at all. i already know how to ride, i've been on my quad for 2 years and rode my uncles honda goldwing before.. the goldwing is a car with 2 wheels, its friggen huge

05-14-2007, 12:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
honda06si Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 11,158 justin iTrader: 6 / 100%	well i would go ahead and get the one for $5000

05-14-2007, 12:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Big-Mike Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 192 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I say get a sv650s or ninja 650r. Those have a little more power, but are still pretty much universally considered good first bikes and even choice of experienced riders. Ninja 500r and Suzuki GS500 are also good for starters. Lastly the Ninja 250R which you can get brand new for $3k. Quad and sport bikes are different and riding a bike and owning one are diff too. Not gonna go there though. If you just want to please your father and learn at the same time I say get a ninja 250r. You can get used like $2000 and then sell it back in 6 months for $2250 if you wax it before you sell it. At worse you can sell for what you paid for it unless you mess it up.

05-14-2007, 12:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
*GeezerSi* Hidy ho neighbor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Palm, PA Posts: 12,833 -> Ken iTrader: 5 / 100%	Buy what you want. If it doesn't work out, sell it. If you wheel and deal correctly, you shouldn't lose hardly any money if you change your mind.

05-14-2007, 01:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
SIis4ME Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bayonne, NJ Age: 40 Posts: 76 ROMULUS iTrader: 0 / 0%	Buddy, I have 20 years or riding-Racing experience, my best advice to you is first think about what kind of riding you want to do, after you decide definately buy a beater "a bike you won't care about dropping" because you will drop it, is inevitable maybe just once e maybe many times but get something rugged an older 02 03 CBR 600 perfect starter bike this way when you are ready to upgrade to nicer ride in about a 1 or 2 seasons you will have the extra bucks. Get a bike where your feet are planted firmly on the ground no tipping toeing. A good helmet and remember it's not a car and mistakes can cost you your ass. I have lost 3 friends in the 20 years of riding I currently own a 2006 GSXR-1000 and it still scares me sometimes. You are young and the throttle can be addictive and that is ok just control yourself so you can ride another day :) My boy is 7 and I just got him a honda 50 and he is starting to push it and I allow it within reason and I try my hardest to teach him everything I know but he is young and doesn't allways look ahead when he does crazy shit and I don't want him to get hurt, Does your DAD ride? is he scared for you? is he supportive?

05-14-2007, 02:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Drew303 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver, CO Age: 27 Posts: 804 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I started riding on a 05 CBR 600RR, but I have ridden dirtbikes since I was a kid. If you have no experience, I would get an older CBR F2, or F4i.

05-14-2007, 02:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Seemund Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,547 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I don't have any experience, but i just love it!! Want to buy one, when i get the chance.. My father is totally against it.. says its for stupid ppl who wants to die.. Well.. I'm on many bike forums, and the first thing they'll tell you is: get a 250, 500 MAX.. if you go any bigger, they will flame you Better to learn, etc etc..

05-14-2007, 02:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
TommyD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,358 iTrader: 0 / 0%	MSF beginner and experienced courses. Plan on $1k for gear, at minimum armored leather jacket, armored gloves, armored motorcycle boots, and a good helmet. I'd also suggest armored leather pants and/or a suit (Aerostitch Roadcrafter). Either way get your gear. As for a bike, SV650. I wouldn't suggest getting a 600cc sportbike for your first bike, too much plastic for you to damage. The SV650 is best rec I can give you for a first bike.

05-14-2007, 05:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
consumer22 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Freeville, NY Posts: 55 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Lots of good advice. If I were 20, I would call my insurance company and see how much they want for different bikes. Many go by engine size. I assume you don't want to pay too much for insurance. It doesn't matter much for my age bracket anymore but I remember when over 600ccs made a big difference. As for what to buy, buy what you like.