Ok anyone whos good with law...

Skyline4life · 03-22-2007, 05:11 PM

This is going to be a very vauge story so yea..

So, About a month ago (at school) my friends found a School ID card, (we use thses cards as like a debit card for food) so they spent money from the card..Now I had no idea there was a stolen one, and we usaly use each others cards for the vending machines..Now i used to, Unknowingly and got a Starburts..($0.85)..Now my friend spent like over $30 and held onto the card, he got 6 weeks of L.O.P in the school ( Loss of Privleges so you get a half a period for lunch basicly) AND a Felony...Now i thought a felony would only be $300 and up?

But my main question is, What about me? I used the card unknowlingly, had really no idea about the card and spent only 85 cents..Would i get a felony? or I would atleast be thinking about a misdameaner..

But also the cop said to ME and my PARENTS "Evan dose not play a big role in this"

and i'm 17, 18 in july..

So yea, I'm just wondring..i may know tomarow.

**twistedframe** · 03-22-2007, 05:14 PM

I am not a law expert but I think this would be considered fraud not just petty larceny and that is why it could be a felony. I highly doubt that you will get into any trouble. If you're not sure though and they already nabbed your friend tell him to tell the cops you had nothing to do with it.

***Cybergypsy*** · 03-22-2007, 05:15 PM

you will be ok, give the 85.cents back in a money order, know that you know... its not a felony :) pety theft....under 300.00, I use to be the head of Loss Prevention and sent many people to Jail :)

Skyline4life · 03-22-2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybergypsy

you will be ok, give the 85.cents back in a money order, know that you know... its not a felony :) pety theft....under 300.00, I use to be the head of Loss Prevention and sent many people to Jail :)

I know, I'm said "why don't we all just pay $5 a person give her the money back she lost.." and yea..Who knows whats happning with that.

but hell even my friends are saying that i really didnt even do anything. Along with the cop.

MordeKyle · 03-22-2007, 05:30 PM

it is in fact a felony. as stated earlier it is fraud. just like using someone elses credit card. your friend acted as another person and spent money on that persons name. that is fraud and is a felony. however you can not be convicted of the crime because there is no intent and you did it unknowingly.

CZ-75 · 03-22-2007, 05:37 PM

If I hadn't made any sort of admission to anyone other than my parents, like other students, friends, teachers, police, etc., I wouldn't volunteer a thing over the $.85. If I had, I would try to see If I could avoid getting involved. Sometimes the worst thing you can do is cop to something minor and expect mercy. The card was not in your possession and you could not really be expected to remember something so trivial as $.85 for starburst (that they cost $.85 should be the crime here) and anything said to the contrary would be hearsay. Everything you learned in Sunday School won't necessarily help you when dealing with authority, even though it always worked on "Leave it to Beaver."

Stick .85 in an envelope and drop it in the person's locker.

Kakashi · 03-22-2007, 05:40 PM

Holy shit, spellcheck your posts..

PLEASE.

Skyline4life · 03-22-2007, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MordeKyle

it is in fact a felony. as stated earlier it is fraud. just like using someone elses credit card. your friend acted as another person and spent money on that persons name. that is fraud and is a felony. however you can not be convicted of the crime because there is no intent and you did it unknowingly.

I was waitng for you to Comment

But yea, the cop is saying that "i'm lieing i did know about it" But hes like w.e..Bleh theres worse stuff going on in this school then this, why don't they look for the Drug dealers thats happning..

Dwn4nythng · 03-22-2007, 06:23 PM

In Calif. over $500 is a felony, over $500 is grand theft. $ .85 cents is very petty and if they want to pursue it, it would be a misdemeanor. They could take action against you IF they want to make a example out of you. When your friend got the felony, I don't think it was for using the card, it was for possession of stolen property. Possession of stolen property can be a misdemeanor or felony, depending on how the cop writes it up. See, what happened with you friend is that he kept the evidence that they needed to prosecute him. You on the other hand, would be a accessory to the crime which usually ends up with a slap on the hand saying don't do it again, unless its a violent crime. If the crime is non violent, usually you get leniency. Violent crimes usually gets you the max time. I know more about the law then the average joe schmoe cop. Hope that answer helps ya.

Dwn4nythng · 03-22-2007, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyline4life

I was waitng for you to Comment

But yea, the cop is saying that "i'm lieing i did know about it" But hes like w.e..Bleh theres worse stuff going on in this school then this, why don't they look for the Drug dealers thats happning..

The cop is saying this and he has no proof. He cannot have you prosecuted on a he say / she say. Would not stand up in court. In court, EVERYTHING has to be in black and white. As long as you don't admit to it and your friend don't snitch you out, you should be ok. Right now that cop is looking for proof, don't give him that proof and the bastard won't have a case.

aodmisery · 03-22-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakashi

Holy shit, spellcheck your posts..

PLEASE.

+1

howd they catch your friend?

Skyline4life · 03-22-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwn4nythng

The cop is saying this and he has no proof. He cannot have you prosecuted on a he say / she say. Would not stand up in court. In court, EVERYTHING has to be in black and white. As long as you don't admit to it and your friend don't snitch you out, you should be ok. Right now that cop is looking for proof, don't give him that proof and the bastard won't have a case.

eveyr one admited..because well, 'they had us on camrea' and I can't go by saying i didnt use it because i was the last one called down..everyone talked and said the samething..

Skyline4life · 03-22-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwn4nythng

In Calif. over $500 is a felony, over $500 is grand theft. $ .85 cents is very petty and if they want to pursue it, it would be a misdemeanor. They could take action against you IF they want to make a example out of you. When your friend got the felony, I don't think it was for using the card, it was for possession of stolen property. Possession of stolen property can be a misdemeanor or felony, depending on how the cop writes it up. See, what happened with you friend is that he kept the evidence that they needed to prosecute him. You on the other hand, would be a accessory to the crime which usually ends up with a slap on the hand saying don't do it again, unless its a violent crime. If the crime is non violent, usually you get leniency. Violent crimes usually gets you the max time. I know more about the law then the average joe schmoe cop. Hope that answer helps ya.

He ditched the card..But everyone said he was holding onto the card and he used all of the money basicly..and he was true about that..So yea.

Skyline4life · 03-22-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aodmisery

+1

howd they catch your friend?

we have no idea haha

03-22-2007, 05:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Skyline4life Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mundelein, IL Age: 19 Posts: 3,016 Evan iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ok anyone whos good with law... This is going to be a very vauge story so yea.. So, About a month ago (at school) my friends found a School ID card, (we use thses cards as like a debit card for food) so they spent money from the card..Now I had no idea there was a stolen one, and we usaly use each others cards for the vending machines..Now i used to, Unknowingly and got a Starburts..($0.85)..Now my friend spent like over $30 and held onto the card, he got 6 weeks of L.O.P in the school ( Loss of Privleges so you get a half a period for lunch basicly) AND a Felony...Now i thought a felony would only be $300 and up? But my main question is, What about me? I used the card unknowlingly, had really no idea about the card and spent only 85 cents..Would i get a felony? or I would atleast be thinking about a misdameaner.. But also the cop said to ME and my PARENTS "Evan dose not play a big role in this" and i'm 17, 18 in july.. So yea, I'm just wondring..i may know tomarow.

03-22-2007, 05:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Cybergypsy* Mini Me! Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 48 Posts: 7,719 iTrader: 3 / 100%	you will be ok, give the 85.cents back in a money order, know that you know... its not a felony :) pety theft....under 300.00, I use to be the head of Loss Prevention and sent many people to Jail :) __________________ "I have CDO. It's like OCD but with the letters in alphabetical order, like they're supposed to be."

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03-22-2007, 05:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
MordeKyle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,097 iTrader: 1 / 100%	it is in fact a felony. as stated earlier it is fraud. just like using someone elses credit card. your friend acted as another person and spent money on that persons name. that is fraud and is a felony. however you can not be convicted of the crime because there is no intent and you did it unknowingly.

03-22-2007, 05:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
CZ-75 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tri-state Posts: 1,248 Brian iTrader: 0 / 0%	If I hadn't made any sort of admission to anyone other than my parents, like other students, friends, teachers, police, etc., I wouldn't volunteer a thing over the $.85. If I had, I would try to see If I could avoid getting involved. Sometimes the worst thing you can do is cop to something minor and expect mercy. The card was not in your possession and you could not really be expected to remember something so trivial as $.85 for starburst (that they cost $.85 should be the crime here) and anything said to the contrary would be hearsay. Everything you learned in Sunday School won't necessarily help you when dealing with authority, even though it always worked on "Leave it to Beaver." Stick .85 in an envelope and drop it in the person's locker.

03-22-2007, 05:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kakashi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Aurora CO Age: 22 Posts: 3,700 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Holy shit, spellcheck your posts.. PLEASE.

03-22-2007, 06:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dwn4nythng Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: You think he's going to jail, it will be a long while before he does. I know what their doing. Posts: 2,423 NorCal Meet Organizer iTrader: 1 / 100%	In Calif. over $500 is a felony, over $500 is grand theft. $ .85 cents is very petty and if they want to pursue it, it would be a misdemeanor. They could take action against you IF they want to make a example out of you. When your friend got the felony, I don't think it was for using the card, it was for possession of stolen property. Possession of stolen property can be a misdemeanor or felony, depending on how the cop writes it up. See, what happened with you friend is that he kept the evidence that they needed to prosecute him. You on the other hand, would be a accessory to the crime which usually ends up with a slap on the hand saying don't do it again, unless its a violent crime. If the crime is non violent, usually you get leniency. Violent crimes usually gets you the max time. I know more about the law then the average joe schmoe cop. Hope that answer helps ya.