Kim found ='(

Kakashi · 12-06-2006, 05:17 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/06/mis...ily/index.html

MERLIN, Oregon (CNN) -- The body of a San Francisco man who had walked into the Oregon wilderness to summon help for his stranded family was found Wednesday in a steep ravine where he had left clues for searchers.

Officials confirmed that James Kim, 35, an editor at the Web site CNET, had been found dead.

Brian Anderson, Undersheriff of Josephine County, broke down and could not finish speaking as he announced that Kim's body was found at 3:03 p.m. ET.

Searchers were attempting to remove Kim's body, and his family members have requested that their privacy be respected, officials said.

Kim walked into the snowy Oregon mountains Saturday to find help for his wife and two young daughters. They were rescued by searchers on Monday.

Clothing and bits of an Oregon map turned up Tuesday in a steep canyon that drains into the Rogue River. Searchers said they believed he was marking his trail for them.

The clothing, which was wet, included two gray sweat shirts, a red T-shirt, a sock and a blue girl's skirt, said Lt. Gregg Hastings of the Oregon State Patrol. Family members said Kim carried the items when he left.

"They were laid out in a well defined area, in a pattern," Hastings said. The pattern led officers to believe that "little signs are being left by James."
Fog hampers search

Searchers also found a pair of gray pants they believed belonged to Kim. The family said he was wearing the pants over blue jeans when he left.

Teams were trying to resume their search Wednesday, but were hampered by fog which they hoped would lift by midday.

Searchers planned to drop 18 numbered rescue packages containing clothing, emergency gear and other survival provisions into the area Wednesday in hopes that Kim could find one. The packages, clear plastic bags the size of pillows, also contained a note from his family.

Searchers said the packages would be dropped in a 3-square-mile area where "hot spots" showed up two nights earlier in thermal imaging.

"This is frustrating. We are so close," Anderson said. "There are people pouring their heart and soul into this. We are not going to quit until we find him."

Temperatures at night in the search area have been dipping below freezing in lower elevations. The weather is expected to deteriorate by Friday.
Dramatic rescue on Monday

Kim's wife, Kati, and two daughters were rescued at their car, stuck in the snow on a remote road.

When he left the car Saturday, James Kim went about two miles along the road, and then headed down into the drainage area, said Lt. Gregg Hastings of the Oregon State Police.

About 100 rescue workers and four helicopters were searching for Kim, following his footprints down a drainage called Big Windy Creek that leads to the Rogue River.

Anderson said he does not know why Kim went into the drainage area. "I hope to have the opportunity to ask why he did that," he said.

Kim, a senior editor for the technology media company CNET Networks Inc., had two lighters and was wearing tennis shoes, pants and a heavy coat, but no hat, Anderson said. He would likely be within about five miles of the car, he said.

The Kims had been missing since November 25, when they left Portland and headed home after a holiday trip to the Pacific Northwest.

Kati Kim told officers they were traveling south from Portland on Interstate 5 and missed the turnoff to a state highway, Oregon 42, that leads through the Coast Range to Gold Beach, where they planned to stay at a resort.
Questions about map

Officers said the couple used a map to choose the road they were on. "They got the map out -- a regular highway map -- that showed the route," Anderson said.

However, it wasn't clear whose map the couple used. The 2005-2007 state highway map distributed by the Oregon Department of Transportation has a warning in red print, inside a red box: "This route closed in winter." A Rand-McNally map did not have a similar warning.

On Monday, searchers in a private helicopter hired by the family spotted Kati Kim, 30, and daughters Penelope, 4, and Sabine, 7 months. They were released from a hospital in Grants Pass on Tuesday.

After leaving Portland on Interstate 5, search leaders said, the couple missed a turnoff that leads to the coast and took a wrong turn on a twisty mountain road they chose as an alternative.

Stuck, they used their car heater until they ran out of gas then burned tires to stay warm and attract attention. With only a few jars of baby food and limited supplies, Kati Kim nursed her children.

The area's complicated road network is commonly used by whitewater rafters on the Rogue River or as a shortcut to the coast in the summer, but it is not plowed in the winter.

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Sad, sad

RIP brave one.

asndragonboii · 12-06-2006, 05:31 PM

no =[

i always watched him on CNET.. RIP

***Cybergypsy*** · 12-06-2006, 05:34 PM

I was hoping for the best RIP........

SiRyan · 12-06-2006, 05:43 PM

Condolences to his family

***m1k3*** · 12-06-2006, 05:52 PM

RIP..

**marc-o-lishuz** · 12-06-2006, 05:57 PM

yeah, that guy was cool... i liked his reviews on CNET.

Civic_DC2 · 12-06-2006, 06:07 PM

RIP, wish the best for his family.

8thgenuser · 12-06-2006, 06:52 PM

Life is unfair.

I'm heartbroken.

***CaliGuy*** · 12-06-2006, 07:13 PM

That sucks...at least he died like a hero...

8thgenuser · 12-06-2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliGuy

That sucks...at least he died like a hero...

That's what makes it even sadder.

SiRyan · 12-06-2006, 07:26 PM

Its like he knew that he was'nt going to survive leaving them a trail to find his body....

**Gonzo** · 12-06-2006, 08:28 PM

Wow, that story was from CNN? It was very poorly written. They told you stuff at the end that they should have told you at the beggining.

I'm sorry to hear of the tragedy, I'm sure I've seen him as I frequent CNET.

Though I have to wonder, at what point do you start stripping clothing in the freezing mountain to leave clues for survivors. You don't do that...

Break sticks into signals or signs, but don't take off your clothing. I'm a little confused about that. I guess it is a shame he didn't know more about surival skills. If anything he should have stayed with the car. Perhaps he was desperate and made a poor descision. Either way it is very sad and I still respect his ill fated determination.

**Nomar06** · 12-06-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliGuy

That sucks...at least he died like a hero...

Very true.

fa1 · 12-07-2006, 12:11 AM

I heard his family was just waiting in their car on the side of the road...

MordeKyle · 12-07-2006, 12:56 AM

damnit, i was hoping they'd find him alive and well :-(

MordeKyle · 12-07-2006, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Wow, that story was from CNN? It was very poorly written. They told you stuff at the end that they should have told you at the beggining.

I'm sorry to hear of the tragedy, I'm sure I've seen him as I frequent CNET.

Though I have to wonder, at what point do you start stripping clothing in the freezing mountain to leave clues for survivors. You don't do that...

Break sticks into signals or signs, but don't take off your clothing. I'm a little confused about that. I guess it is a shame he didn't know more about surival skills. If anything he should have stayed with the car. Perhaps he was desperate and made a poor descision. Either way it is very sad and I still respect his ill fated determination.

it said that he took the extra clothes with him, one of the items was a blue skirt, i doubt he was wearing that.

blck06si · 12-07-2006, 01:02 AM

i worked on the railroad threw those little towns grants pass, gold hill, medford that really sucks that he passed away.

liuh · 12-07-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Though I have to wonder, at what point do you start stripping clothing in the freezing mountain to leave clues for survivors. You don't do that...

there's other articles that have mentioned this is a problem when you get hypothermia, you get really hot and start to sweat and its common for victims to take off their clothing at this point. While delusional + in the middle of nowhere, I'm sure he wasn't quite thinking straight.

RIP, i really really wanted him to live. Nothing breaks my heart more than seeing a father try to save his family and not making it all the way through. I hope he knew that his family was okay before he passed, I think some articles said that he was alive when they found him but couldn't get to him in time.

RIP, i'd pour one out for this guy even though i didn't even know him.

fa1 · 12-07-2006, 10:09 PM

He will be missed. Was a fellow bay-area'en.

**Gonzo** · 12-07-2006, 10:21 PM

Yeah the whole thing is terrible. As far as the skirt thing, well I'm not sure why he brought it if he didn't intend to wear it for warmth, but anyhow. It's just a shame he didn't stick with the car and went off in an unsure direction.

As far as the sweating thing, I have heard of people sweating earlier and that moisture becoming a problem when it gets colder. I haven't heard of anyone sweating more and becoming hot when they get hypothermia... Hypothermia at all stages occurs when there is a drop in body temperature so I'm not sure, but delusion I could see being a problem.

Again it is just a shame he didn't have more knowledge about survival situations. I'm not saying I'm an expert by any means but I know a little.

There are some things we can learn from this tragedy. If you are going somewhere unexpected, try to inform others that is what you are doing, and if you are going on a trip away from civilization, keep supplies in your car. It is a good idea to keep a few of those survival blankets in your car in addition to water and food, heck you can even put old snack food in your trunk just incase. And if you get lost somewhere and need rescue it is always a good idea to stick with your car unless you are absolutely sure you know where help is and know you can get there.

12-06-2006, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kakashi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Aurora CO Age: 22 Posts: 3,706 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Kim found ='( http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/06/mis...ily/index.html MERLIN, Oregon (CNN) -- The body of a San Francisco man who had walked into the Oregon wilderness to summon help for his stranded family was found Wednesday in a steep ravine where he had left clues for searchers. Officials confirmed that James Kim, 35, an editor at the Web site CNET, had been found dead. Brian Anderson, Undersheriff of Josephine County, broke down and could not finish speaking as he announced that Kim's body was found at 3:03 p.m. ET. Searchers were attempting to remove Kim's body, and his family members have requested that their privacy be respected, officials said. Kim walked into the snowy Oregon mountains Saturday to find help for his wife and two young daughters. They were rescued by searchers on Monday. Clothing and bits of an Oregon map turned up Tuesday in a steep canyon that drains into the Rogue River. Searchers said they believed he was marking his trail for them. The clothing, which was wet, included two gray sweat shirts, a red T-shirt, a sock and a blue girl's skirt, said Lt. Gregg Hastings of the Oregon State Patrol. Family members said Kim carried the items when he left. "They were laid out in a well defined area, in a pattern," Hastings said. The pattern led officers to believe that "little signs are being left by James." Fog hampers search Searchers also found a pair of gray pants they believed belonged to Kim. The family said he was wearing the pants over blue jeans when he left. Teams were trying to resume their search Wednesday, but were hampered by fog which they hoped would lift by midday. Searchers planned to drop 18 numbered rescue packages containing clothing, emergency gear and other survival provisions into the area Wednesday in hopes that Kim could find one. The packages, clear plastic bags the size of pillows, also contained a note from his family. Searchers said the packages would be dropped in a 3-square-mile area where "hot spots" showed up two nights earlier in thermal imaging. "This is frustrating. We are so close," Anderson said. "There are people pouring their heart and soul into this. We are not going to quit until we find him." Temperatures at night in the search area have been dipping below freezing in lower elevations. The weather is expected to deteriorate by Friday. Dramatic rescue on Monday Kim's wife, Kati, and two daughters were rescued at their car, stuck in the snow on a remote road. When he left the car Saturday, James Kim went about two miles along the road, and then headed down into the drainage area, said Lt. Gregg Hastings of the Oregon State Police. About 100 rescue workers and four helicopters were searching for Kim, following his footprints down a drainage called Big Windy Creek that leads to the Rogue River. Anderson said he does not know why Kim went into the drainage area. "I hope to have the opportunity to ask why he did that," he said. Kim, a senior editor for the technology media company CNET Networks Inc., had two lighters and was wearing tennis shoes, pants and a heavy coat, but no hat, Anderson said. He would likely be within about five miles of the car, he said. The Kims had been missing since November 25, when they left Portland and headed home after a holiday trip to the Pacific Northwest. Kati Kim told officers they were traveling south from Portland on Interstate 5 and missed the turnoff to a state highway, Oregon 42, that leads through the Coast Range to Gold Beach, where they planned to stay at a resort. Questions about map Officers said the couple used a map to choose the road they were on. "They got the map out -- a regular highway map -- that showed the route," Anderson said. However, it wasn't clear whose map the couple used. The 2005-2007 state highway map distributed by the Oregon Department of Transportation has a warning in red print, inside a red box: "This route closed in winter." A Rand-McNally map did not have a similar warning. On Monday, searchers in a private helicopter hired by the family spotted Kati Kim, 30, and daughters Penelope, 4, and Sabine, 7 months. They were released from a hospital in Grants Pass on Tuesday. After leaving Portland on Interstate 5, search leaders said, the couple missed a turnoff that leads to the coast and took a wrong turn on a twisty mountain road they chose as an alternative. Stuck, they used their car heater until they ran out of gas then burned tires to stay warm and attract attention. With only a few jars of baby food and limited supplies, Kati Kim nursed her children. The area's complicated road network is commonly used by whitewater rafters on the Rogue River or as a shortcut to the coast in the summer, but it is not plowed in the winter. ================================================== = Sad, sad RIP brave one.

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12-06-2006, 05:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
asndragonboii Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,264 iTrader: 0 / 0%	no =[ i always watched him on CNET.. RIP

12-06-2006, 05:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Cybergypsy* Resident Caraholic Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 48 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 3 / 100%	I was hoping for the best RIP........

12-06-2006, 05:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
SiRyan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vallejo,Ca. Age: 23 Posts: 5,617 iTrader: 17 / 100%	Condolences to his family

12-06-2006, 05:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
marc-o-lishuz Doraemon! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Age: 26 Posts: 24,562 Marc iTrader: 2 / 100%	yeah, that guy was cool... i liked his reviews on CNET.

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Civic_DC2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 200 iTrader: 0 / 0%	RIP, wish the best for his family.

12-06-2006, 06:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
8thgenuser Webby's Minion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,065 Nikon Squad Member #8 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Life is unfair. I'm heartbroken.

12-06-2006, 07:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
SiRyan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vallejo,Ca. Age: 23 Posts: 5,617 iTrader: 17 / 100%	Its like he knew that he was'nt going to survive leaving them a trail to find his body....

12-06-2006, 08:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,689 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Wow, that story was from CNN? It was very poorly written. They told you stuff at the end that they should have told you at the beggining. I'm sorry to hear of the tragedy, I'm sure I've seen him as I frequent CNET. Though I have to wonder, at what point do you start stripping clothing in the freezing mountain to leave clues for survivors. You don't do that... Break sticks into signals or signs, but don't take off your clothing. I'm a little confused about that. I guess it is a shame he didn't know more about surival skills. If anything he should have stayed with the car. Perhaps he was desperate and made a poor descision. Either way it is very sad and I still respect his ill fated determination.

12-07-2006, 12:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
fa1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SF, CA Age: 19 Posts: 2,461 FA Squad Member #17 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I heard his family was just waiting in their car on the side of the road...

12-07-2006, 12:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
MordeKyle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,097 iTrader: 1 / 100%	damnit, i was hoping they'd find him alive and well :-(

12-07-2006, 01:02 AM	#17 (permalink)
blck06si Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peoria, AZ Age: 23 Posts: 415 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i worked on the railroad threw those little towns grants pass, gold hill, medford that really sucks that he passed away.

12-07-2006, 10:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
fa1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SF, CA Age: 19 Posts: 2,461 FA Squad Member #17 iTrader: 1 / 100%	He will be missed. Was a fellow bay-area'en.

12-07-2006, 10:21 PM	#20 (permalink)
Gonzo You're doing it wrong!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 5,689 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Yeah the whole thing is terrible. As far as the skirt thing, well I'm not sure why he brought it if he didn't intend to wear it for warmth, but anyhow. It's just a shame he didn't stick with the car and went off in an unsure direction. As far as the sweating thing, I have heard of people sweating earlier and that moisture becoming a problem when it gets colder. I haven't heard of anyone sweating more and becoming hot when they get hypothermia... Hypothermia at all stages occurs when there is a drop in body temperature so I'm not sure, but delusion I could see being a problem. Again it is just a shame he didn't have more knowledge about survival situations. I'm not saying I'm an expert by any means but I know a little. There are some things we can learn from this tragedy. If you are going somewhere unexpected, try to inform others that is what you are doing, and if you are going on a trip away from civilization, keep supplies in your car. It is a good idea to keep a few of those survival blankets in your car in addition to water and food, heck you can even put old snack food in your trunk just incase. And if you get lost somewhere and need rescue it is always a good idea to stick with your car unless you are absolutely sure you know where help is and know you can get there.