ps3>360?

[K20Redline]

Originally Posted by mdenning

Uh...

"All I'm saying is HDMI is a better input type than component.". You said this, correct?

I'm telling you that sentence is false. But thank you for finally agreeing with that.

Your post from earlyer the 1080p was bull from sony the support was only for the movies 1080p has to support in the game there Microsoft pwned you again! so whats the point of having 1080p capabilities but not for games...

[07 fg2]

360! i bought a cooling stand when i bought it 2yrs ago and have had no problems.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by mdenning

Both, using proper content, are sending a 1080p signal. 1080p is 1080p. Component or HDMI. From what I know, and I'll verify this with a friend when he gets to work, the PS3 outputs a different signal when using Component vs HDMI, for the sole reason they want to promote HDMI.

the PS3 does not allow the full color spectrum that its capable of to be sent through Component. in terms of sharpness, and details, there shouldn't be a difference. so this is true. however, its very minimal. i have a high end LCD computer monitor that i use for photo editing and therefore has fantastic color representation. i tested HDMI > DVI and component on the PS3, and honestly, there is VERY little difference in the color, although HDMI is better.

[skiddy]

Originally Posted by mdenning

HDCP, as far as I know, has yet to be enabled on any 1080p content. Thus, Component cables (even on the 360) are able to play 1080p content with no problem.

However once HDCP starts being enabled, you are correct that only HDMI will support 1080p content, even on the 360.

Yea it looks like you're right. But it appears there are tons of TV's out there that are 1080p supported, but will not do 1080p via component. Just depends on the TV I guess.

[mdenning]

Correct, Skiddy. Some (well most, unfortunately) do not support 1080p through component. This is a limitation of the TV, and not the 360, however.

[splew]

Originally Posted by mdenning

Uh...

"All I'm saying is HDMI is a better input type than component.". You said this, correct?

I'm telling you that sentence is false. But thank you for finally agreeing with that.

Okay Mr. expert. Apparently me and everyone I know has been grossly misinformed. Care to provide some proof from a reputable source to back up your dubious claim that component is better than HDMI?

[exempt]

Never said Component was better. I'm saying HDMI is not better.

[DNieves]

I sometimes miss the simplicity of the Atari 2600 joystick with its single fire button....
Simple controller for a simpler time :)

[splew]

Originally Posted by exempt

Never said Component was better. I'm saying HDMI is not better.

HDMI is better for sound because you can get 7.1 surround and dolby true HD and DTS master audio which you can't get with optical. As for picture the difference might not be noticeable, but HDMI cables can transfer more uncompressed data at a much faster rate than component video. Also HDMI is digital while component is analog, which means that all digital signals transfered by component must be compressed and converted to analog and then reconverted to digital by the HDTV, which means less data and slower transfer rates which equals less detail and less motion clarity. Also inherent to digital to analog conversion is signal degradation and detail loss. While they may look almost identical as far as picture quality, the truth is HDMI is far better, it just might not be noticeable.

Component video - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
High-Definition Multimedia Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[exempt]

Just because HDMI is digital does not mean it is not converted. Both HDMI and Component go through conversions. Yes, component is digital to analog. However, HDMI must be converted as well.

[splew]

Originally Posted by exempt

Just because HDMI is digital does not mean it is not converted. Both HDMI and Component go through conversions. Yes, component is digital to analog. However, HDMI must be converted as well.

HDMI is digital but still has to be converted? Converted to what? If the media device is digital and HDMI is digital and the HDTV is digital then why is there a conversion. I'm confused. BTW I'm assuming you agree that HDMI is best for sound, no?

[emopains]

Originally Posted by exempt

Just because HDMI is digital does not mean it is not converted. Both HDMI and Component go through conversions. Yes, component is digital to analog. However, HDMI must be converted as well.

What are you talking about? Component is not digital, it's analog and only supports up to 1080i
HDMI is digital only, hinse why you cannot convert vga to dvi-d or hdmi. New 360 has a digital or analog adapter, kinda like a videocard having duel monitor support (analog and digital) DTV has the same.

[splew]

Originally Posted by emopains

What are you talking about? Component is not digital, it's analog and only supports 1080i
HDMI is digital only, hinse why you cannot convert vga to dvi-d or hdmi. New 360 has a digital or analog adapter, kinda like a videocard having duel monitor support (analog and digital) DTV has the same.

. Yeah I don't understand what this exempt guy is talking about either. I wish he would provide some proof for his statements, for all I know he's just spewing B.S.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by emopains

What are you talking about? Component is not digital, it's analog and only supports up to 1080i
HDMI is digital only, hinse why you cannot convert vga to dvi-d or hdmi. New 360 has a digital or analog adapter, kinda like a videocard having duel monitor support (analog and digital) DTV has the same.

ROFL, component does 2048x1536@75Hz i guarantee you that. for comparison, 1080P is 1920x1080@24hz. just because your lame tv only accepts 1080i through component doesnt mean that thats all it can do.

and yes, HDMI is still "converted" by your TV, if you want to get technical, its just that signal degradation is not an issue.

i said it earlier and ill say it again:
Component on the best CRT will look better than HDMI on the best digital TV.

[exempt]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

ROFL, component does 2048x1536@75Hz i guarantee you that. for comparison, 1080P is 1920x1080@24hz. just because your lame tv only accepts 1080i through component doesnt mean that thats all it can do.

and yes, HDMI is still "converted" by your TV, if you want to get technical, its just that signal degradation is not an issue.

i said it earlier and ill say it again:
Component on the best CRT will look better than HDMI on the best digital TV.

Exactly.

[splew]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

ROFL, component does 2048x1536@75Hz i guarantee you that. for comparison, 1080P is 1920x1080@24hz. just because your lame tv only accepts 1080i through component doesnt mean that thats all it can do.

and yes, HDMI is still "converted" by your TV, if you want to get technical, its just that signal degradation is not an issue.

i said it earlier and ill say it again:
Component on the best CRT will look better than HDMI on the best digital TV.

Originally Posted by exempt

Exactly.

Okay, I concede, you two seem like smart fellows who know more about this than me, but remember, video isn't everything, HDMI is still best for sound.

[exempt]

This wasnt about audio though

However, I will agree. HDMI being the only one that can output true DTS kind of sucks

[e60.deluxe]

DVI vs. HDMI vs. Component Video -- Which is Better?

i like this article for those who are still confused. and just another thought, HDMI, or Digital in general, is really only ever best due to artificial limitation put on other methods. for example, HDMI/DVI is the only way to get HDCP content, the fancy DTS, etc.

[hmodel88]

R6V2 is hella nice on ps3