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Old 10-30-2007, 12:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1080P LCD tv and PS3 questions......help!

Okay I understand the differences bewteen the HDTV options 720p vs 1080i vs 1080p. My problem is I am getting a PS3, and i need to upgrade my current TV in my game room to get the total experience from the ps3.

I wanted to get a 32-40in 1080p LCD, but recently found an amazing deal on a 32in 720p LCD tv. Now to my questions, I have been told that with a screen this size you can't really tell a difference between 1080p and 720p is this true? Second, I will be using the blu-ray often, but was told that if a tv can't do 1080p that the ps3 will downsize to 480p subsequently skipping 720p is this true? Is it worth it in your mind to pay hundreds more for a 1080p tv over a 720p in the screen sizes I am looking at?


Sorry for the noob questions, but i understand tv's well but not sure what will fit best with my ps3. I am looking for anyone's opinion on this.

Thanks! (Also I searched so if this has been covered point me in the right direction )
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you should be able to get 1080i.

but i would really get a 1080P TV.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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depending on where you sit 1080i and 1080p show no difference. you will be fine with 1080i.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ya i heard that only on screen sizes over 50" u can tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p. SO i would say grab the 1080i tv, but as for Blu-ray i dont kno if it downsizes straight to 480p,
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Get a 1080P and be done with it. Look at the Sharp 42inch aquos it can be had for a really good deal. I own one and can vouch for its PQ.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the feedback guys. My main concern is about the PS3 downgrading the quality to 480p if your tv can't run 1080p during bluray playback. Does anyone know if that is the case?

Gaspar- what kind of price have you seen and from where? I have seen good things about that tv, but everywhere i have looked is rather expensive.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yes it does. but only if your TV cant do 1080i either. i think there are only a small amount of TVs that can do 720P and not 1080i.

honestly i would look at something projection. if you dont have that much space Slim DLPs or Projection LCDs dont take up THAT much room althought they cannot be hung on the wall.

you can get 55-60" 1080P for the price of a 1080P 36-40" LCD.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i say invest your money right..especially if you really want to utilize what the ps3 is capable of..do 1080p in 40" if you have the funds for an lcd..in a 32 since the everything is soo concentrated and like mention above..depending on where you sit i doubt you'll tell the difference..otherwise a native 720p tv can do 1080i.

1080i vs. 1080p.... it really depends how critique your eyes and what you see on a day to day bases. I work in a home theater department and I see blu-ray. .. i see upconversion.. i say 1080i... i see 720p........at times I see things where people think Im crazy..(my own employees). however 720p vs 1080i I can hardly ever tell..unless its extremely fast motion ..(depending on tv too).. but 1080p vs. 1080i it seems more of a smoother picture..sounds crazy..but thats what I've noticed. rule of thumb for size..2.5x's the size of your screen that you're looking at is the closest you ever want to be to that tv.


all and all...it really depends how much you want to spend... tv brands..do matter imo because they manufactuer tv's a whole lot longer..look at specs..see them physically before you buy anything. if it comes to it..like mentioned above..dlp will accomplish a lot what lcds can do but w/o paying an arm and a leg. but dont forget there are lamp replacement and they range between 250~350 on average every 3000 hrs. sorry for the ramble..hope it helps.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The 42 inch Aquos has come down 8-900 since I bought mine last November

Just google it. I guess the real question is whats your price range then work from there.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If you use Blue Ray you will be using HDMI so it will give you the highest Resolution the TV can handle but in all honesty go with the 1080p tv since it will be up to par with the latest technology for at least another 5 years. The difference in price today is so small that it's not worth spending the money plus since you have a PS3 take full advantage of the 1080P capability if you did not have a PS3 then maybe you could live iwth a 1080i TV and wait a while untill the HD war between HD and Blueray has a winner then everyone will purchase the winning technology
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks guys great feedback! I repped everyone I could for the great comments, but sadly can't rep some of you.
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Honestly, if you want something in the 32" range, don't bother with 1080p. If you have the $$ to go bigger, like 42" or bigger, get 1080p. As stated above, you won't notice the difference between 1080i and 1080p on a 32". In fact, not very many manufacturers make 1080p TV's in that size. Most start in the 40" and up.

I'd say take the deal you found now and get a bigger 1080p some time down the road.
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Okay I understand the differences bewteen the HDTV options 720p vs 1080i vs 1080p. My problem is I am getting a PS3, and i need to upgrade my current TV in my game room to get the total experience from the ps3.

I wanted to get a 32-40in 1080p LCD, but recently found an amazing deal on a 32in 720p LCD tv. Now to my questions, I have been told that with a screen this size you can't really tell a difference between 1080p and 720p is this true? Second, I will be using the blu-ray often, but was told that if a tv can't do 1080p that the ps3 will downsize to 480p subsequently skipping 720p is this true? Is it worth it in your mind to pay hundreds more for a 1080p tv over a 720p in the screen sizes I am looking at?


Sorry for the noob questions, but i understand tv's well but not sure what will fit best with my ps3. I am looking for anyone's opinion on this.

Thanks! (Also I searched so if this has been covered point me in the right direction )
Get a 1080p... the 720p is not worth it if you get a ps3. End of story.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Get a Xbox360... PS3 is not worth it . End of story.
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I use a nice Samsung DLP 40inch 720p TV. The picture quality is great in 720p and the blue ray playback is awesome. I think the ps3 upscales the regular dvds also so they look great too. I do not think you will be losing out in life not having a 1080p. Just be sure you use an HDMI cable and don't waste money on an $80-$100 monster cable either.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Don't worry I already have a 360, but i want a PS3 mainly for its technology. Thanks though, and your right HDMI makes a world of difference.
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http://www.hdforindies.com/uploaded_...art-790251.jpg

this shows you all you need to know.
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^^ thanks good stuff
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you might also want to read this before you buy something.

article on low cost LCD TV's
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:59 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok coming from someone who actually understands technology today and works in the industry more as a consultant than a clerk, allow me to shed some light here where others have clearly missed.

You want 1080p? Ok, get it but honestly you will only see a difference between 1080p and any other resolution if you sit reaaaaally close to the TV. The higher resolution doesn't necessarily mean better PQ, it means the pixels are close enough that you can sit closer and not see each pixel therefore giving you a bad picture. Here's a very helpful graph to give you an idea of what you need.



So judge what size you want and how far back your eyes are to the center of the screen. This will tell you what you need. Now as for the "Get 1080p so you're up to date" comments, BS! If you look at it, how many 32's come in 1080p? There's no point in it! You'd have to sit about 5ft or less back to need 1080p over 720p. With that said, if you want Blu-Ray capabilities, DO IT! It looks amazing but don't sweat what resolution the TV is at, make sure the TV inputs are capable of inputting 1080p via HDMI and not 1080i/720p.

If you're getting a PS3 for BD purposes, don't do it! Get a Sony 300 BD player and get better picture, WAY better sound (if you have a home theater worth while at least) and 100 times better control. I hate using the PS3 as a BD player as you have to get a bluetooth controller and cannot get it to program into any sort of universal but that's another topic.

Now realize that all of this is worthless unless you get an HDMI cable capable of passing the bandwidth needed for your player to get whatever resolution/frame rate signal you're trying to achieve.

This is the problem with the internet and forums! There's 1000 "experts" to every one person who really understands technology. Email me if you have any other questions.
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If you're getting a PS3 for BD purposes, don't do it! Get a Sony 300 BD player and get better picture, WAY better sound (if you have a home theater worth while at least) and 100 times better control. I hate using the PS3 as a BD player as you have to get a bluetooth controller and cannot get it to program into any sort of universal but that's another topic.
you can pick up 3rd party BD remotes for like $10, toss them in the trash but keep their USB > IR converter and use it with your Harmony or URC (which is what most HT gurus have). true dont buy a PS3 to use as a BD player, but the PS3 does a shitload of good stuff without even coming to games yet.

that being said i would go with 1080P simply for the reason that because of the "resolution hype" a handful of games arent being made to be 720P capable, only 1080p/i so your stuck with interlacing if you dont have a 1080P TV. Also if 1080P/1080i/720P is offered the PS3 will always choose 1080i over 720P with no control.

the thing is that games arent processed the same way as film. you need higher resolution to reduce jaggie edges from the rendering. have you ever noticed if your walking up to a staircase or fence in a game you get "rolling jaggies"?

that will reduce with 1080. some games go through AA processing but sometimes its not enough and 1080P DOES HELP for games.
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