Full-Race stepping into the ring...

[soxfan143]

Hello 8thCivic,

Ever since the announcement of Hondata's FlashPro, curiosity and speculation have been flying as to what companies would step up to the plate with a quality turbo kit for our platform. Among the companies forum members hoped would step up, is Full Race. Over the last 8 years, Full-Race has cemented their position as the leaders for reliable, high-power turbocharged Hondas, as many of you may already know the exceptional design and quality that goes into every Full Race product


Well, Full Race is pleased to inform you that they have begun the design process, but would like some input from the users themselves. After all, kits would never be made if it weren't for the you, the people who buy them!

I'd like to preface this with the fact that I have been in contact with Geoff at Full Race, directly. This is 100% legitimate and will not end in a bunch of blown smoke, well maybe some smoke from your tires

Anyways, Geoff and I have both been in contact with Webby and Full Race is working on Vendor/Sponsor status. I was asked by Geoff to create this thread and start gathering some information about what the end users want.

Some items that we are looking for:

1. Who is interested?
2. What kind of goals are you shooting for?
3. What size turbo? What type of manifold? Etc. If you have specifics, we'd like to hear them.


Note, adding a turbo to a non-factory turbo car is not for the faint of heart... but the reward is great.

So lets hear it.

Oh, and I'd like to send a big THANK YOU to Geoff and Full Race for taking to time to speak with me and get this ball rolling.


-Mike and a little help from Phalanx

[ccking85]

Do they have any ideas on the type of manifolds they are going to use or what can fit in our cars

[07hannsgrr]

I would love to see full race come out with the kit... It will be a while before I boost my car so I am not sure what I want to do...

[ccking85]

Maybe a manifold that we can see the turbo like the RSXs have

[joshrh]

[Sirbelch]

CARB legal.

[soxfan143]

The design that Geoff @ Full-Race has in mind is based around an innovative twinscroll turbo that is available with different turbos to support anywhere from 300-560whp. This is a completely new and innovative turbo kit design that has not been implemented on any Honda anywhere, but is incredibly effective and offers incredible response and spool with a broad powerband. This will NOT be compatible with tradition 35R or other singlescroll type turbos normally found on Honda turbo kits.

These are my views on some things. I really don't think that a sidewinder manifold is going to be possible for this car without extensive modifications to the structure of the vehicle. You will also have to spend quite a bit of money on heat protection for just about every part of the engine bay. That manifold will get super hot and the turbo will be right next to the brake booster and reservoir and the fuse box is also extremely close to the turbo. This is very impractical for a street driven daily driver. Unless Geoff can come up with something special. But then again I'm more interested in functionality, reliability and performance over what it looks like and where the turbo is. I really don't want everyone to request the sidewinder if it's going to be a serious pain in the ass and cause delays in the development and possible better performance from a basic tubular equal length manifold that just happens to be hidden. No big deal for me.

[jasonskater]

definitely a sidewinder style so the turbo gets put right by the side of the valve cover, if possible anyways.

if it is affordable i would love to invest in the full race. my local tuner quoted me 6200 for a full turbo kit with a 400whp goal. that includes custom exhaust, dp, piping, mani and everything i need with install and tune with flashpro if that gives you an idea.

that is lhtin st pete, florida, on the cover of honda tuning like 3 times, so there well known.

[jasonskater]

Originally Posted by soxfan143

The design that Geoff @ Full-Race has in mind is based around an innovative twinscroll turbo that is available with different turbos to support anywhere from 300-560whp. This is a completely new and innovative turbo kit design that has not been implemented on any Honda anywhere, but is incredibly effective and offers incredible response and spool with a broad powerband. This will NOT be compatible with tradition 35R or other singlescroll type turbos normally found on Honda turbo kits.

I really don't think that a sidewinder manifold is going to be possible for this car without extensive modifications to the structure of the vehicle. You will also have to spend quite a bit of money on heat protection for just about every part of the engine bay. That manifold will get super hot and the turbo will be right next to the brake booster and reservoir and the fuse box is also extremely close to the turbo. This is very impractical for a street driven daily driver. Unless Geoff can come up with something special. But then again I'm more interested in functionality, reliability and performance over what it looks like and where the turbo is. I really don't want everyone to request the sidewinder if it's going to be a serious pain in the ass and cause delays in the development and possible better performance from a basic tubular equal length manifold that just happens to be hidden. No big deal for me.

yea i really didnt see the sidewinder working either but i thought id mention it since it looks sick!

[soxfan143]

Originally Posted by jasonskater

yea i really didnt see the sidewinder working either but i thought id mention it since it looks sick!

I so wish we could have the sidewinder but there is so many things that will be a hassle. There is just no room under that cowl. You have to have room for the down pipe, wastegate, dump tube oil lines AND the manifold itself. Then you have to have room for all the factory stuff like the main harness, brake lines and fuel lines and all the other stuff I mentioned in my previous post. I just think it will be way more of a hassle than it would be worth. I think Geoff will come up with an extremely well designed great performing manifold and kit. I have complete trust in what he will bring to the table for us. I just hope there is enough of a demand for the kit so that he actually gets it done.

[jasonskater]

if everything is flexible and the custom stuff is done right and it has a badass intro price im in!

[NitrousG35]

Awesome news Mike. Great to see another competitor in the ring. About time that the Si gets some love. This has been a banner year and continues to be so.

There seems to be some rumors that Honda will come out with direct injection, which would make it a natural for a big turbo setup. Look at the power the Cobalt SS can make with the Stage 1 kit. Now, I see that Infiniti/Nissan is coming out with direct injection on the G37 and 370Z. Imagine direct injection with a turbo system like Full Race, plus tuning by Hondata. I see some sick numbers both on the dyno and at the track coming our way....

[soxfan143]

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

Awesome news Mike. Great to see another competitor in the ring. About time that the Si gets some love. This has been a banner year and continues to be so.

There seems to be some rumors that Honda will come out with direct injection, which would make it a natural for a big turbo setup. Look at the power the Cobalt SS can make with the Stage 1 kit. Now, I see that Infiniti/Nissan is coming out with direct injection on the G37 and 370Z. Imagine direct injection with a turbo system like Full Race, plus tuning by Hondata. I see some sick numbers both on the dyno and at the track coming our way....

I would love to see direct injection on a Honda but then we would have to wait another 4-5 years for Hondata to get the tuning straightened out. lol...

[LiL Sang]

1) I'm interested if the price is right.

2) As far as power goals, 400-550whp sounds pretty nice.

3) Turbo size: GT47R rotated. lmao

[CanyonDriver]

Twin-scroll GT30R would be sickness on a full race kit

[realxlai]

i think a tubular similar to AJP's will be the only way out for running bigger turbos. maybe have the manifold go down a bit further to fit bigger turbos. equivalent to where the ending of the "2" portion of a 4-2-1 header would sit

[aLmk]

Does a sidewinder style refer to the ones that full-race has for the rsx, and have the turbo next to the valve cover and visible in the engine bay?
And Im assuming a manifold can be twin-scroll without being in the sidewinder style.
Sorry if this is out of place, just trying to get it straight.

[Phalanx]

[Nemesis249MP]

LOL, How about a timely production process

[Skyline4life]

me and my friend are looking for an upgrade kit for the greddy turbo kit..Maybe a sidewinder mani to go with it..