Full-Race stepping into the ring... - Page 9

DevilDoc87 · 06-04-2009, 11:04 PM

^ awesome!

lessthanwise · 06-04-2009, 11:11 PM

what's the cost/benefit looking like for twin scroll on the Si?

***Full-Race Geoff*** · 06-04-2009, 11:17 PM

the new kit will not be released overnight, it will take time for it to be ready for the public

**BlueSi4** · 06-04-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

In my experience (and my honest opinion) twinscroll is far and away the best way to turbocharge a 4cyl, 6cyl or 8cyl engine... there is nothing else that comes close. i dont want to give away too many details yet, but i will tell you that we havent developed any new singlescroll kits in a long long time, and dont plan on it.

the new kit will not be released overnight, it will take time for it to be ready for the public, however the design is the first ive ever seen like this (particularly for a honda) and the price will be easier to digest than our current k series singlescroll turbokits.

lessthanwise · 06-04-2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

and the price will be easier to digest than our current k series singlescroll turbokits.

Supa Ninja · 06-04-2009, 11:29 PM

damnit i thought i was the only one going the twin scroll route.

lessthanwise · 06-04-2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supa Ninja

damnit i thought i was the only one going the twin scroll route.

at least you'll actually be able to afford one once you get back

Supa Ninja · 06-04-2009, 11:38 PM

its not that much more then a single scroll.

07CivicMD · 06-04-2009, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff

In my experience (and my honest opinion) twinscroll is far and away the best way to turbocharge a 4cyl, 6cyl or 8cyl engine... there is nothing else that comes close. i dont want to give away too many details yet, but i will tell you that we havent developed any new singlescroll kits in a long long time, and dont plan on it.

the new kit will not be released overnight, it will take time for it to be ready for the public, however the design is the first ive ever seen like this (particularly for a honda) and the price will be easier to digest than our current k series singlescroll turbokits.

How does it compared to the precision billet turbos?

dil2502 · 06-04-2009, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07CivicMD

How does it compared to the precision billet turbos?

can't say 100% but i'm pretty sure it has the top end and better spool charateristics (sp > me)

lessthanwise · 06-05-2009, 12:11 AM

from legacygt.com: a twin scroll or divided housing works to reduce lag, decrease exhaust manifold backpressure on the top end, reduce the potential for reversion, and increase fuel economy.

soxfan143 · 06-05-2009, 12:25 AM

Sweet. Geoff is here. Thanks god!!!!! Now a LOT of things will get cleared up. Glad to see you bud.

Ronmaster901 · 06-05-2009, 12:40 AM

I cant wait to see this set up. I already know what my reaction is going to be...

lol

leonphelpss11 · 06-05-2009, 12:52 AM

I want an affordable kit, somewhere around 4-5000
350-400 whp
Like SRT has, a oil line that doesn't require tapping into oil pan
Fitment is perfect
fmic that doesn't require sawing off half of the frnt bumper. Dont really care about fogs
good placement of things so I don't have to get vented hood and heat wrap every inch of everything.
Most everyone here covered what I wanted.. But that is mainly what I want for sure
full boost at 4k or around that. Sooner the better, def don't want power only at top. TQ would be nice

edit: whups I meant tubular mani

Ronmaster901 · 06-05-2009, 12:54 AM

log style mani ftl.

tubular, like AJP. proven to work.

soxfan143 · 06-05-2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronmaster901

I cant wait to see this set up. I already know what my reaction is going to be...

lol

That's how I felt when I was talking to Geoff. Lol....And another thing, for those that aren't familiar with Geoff and Full-Race, he is a great guy and he produces, in my opinion, the best kits on the market. I've never had an owner/founder of a company actually take the time to talk to a potential customer, not even a current customer, one on one on the phone, and share his ideas to see what the customer actually thinks and actually listens to the customers input. To me that is a top notch organization and I'm a customer for life. With that being said, lets get down to business and see what is coming.

Ronmaster901 · 06-05-2009, 01:07 AM

If you guys want mid range power...get a VW or Audi....These machines we have here are high reving high end hp motors. Lets work with what we got.

Radicalblackcivic · 06-05-2009, 01:08 AM

hehehe, ya everyday i get more convienced just to sell my greddy turbo kit... and get something like this... i wont be selling till the end of the year tho.

soxfan143 · 06-05-2009, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronmaster901

If you guys want mid range power...get a VW or Audi....These machines we have here are high reving high end hp motors. Lets work with what we got.

You do not have to sacrifice the low end midrange power because of our high revving motor. I wouldn't want my car to lose the midrange power I have now to gain up top. To be honest, I use the low to mid power I gained with my GReddy kit WAY more than I use the top end power I gained. Now. I'm not saying that I don't want both, serious low/midrange punch and the top end power as well. But if I had to choose between sacrificing one of them I would sacrifice the top end power all day long.

cellulis44 · 06-05-2009, 01:54 AM

on a turbocharged vehicle, low and mid range grunt will be determined by the a/r of the hot side.

doesnt matter its a 2.0 german motor or a 2.0 honda....

the secret is find the perfect turbine thats doesnt just spool to full boost close to redline.

the optimal setup is a tubular manifold and a medium-small sized turbine housing on a big wheel (62-68mm)

A small turnine housing 76 would really shine if given just enough back pressure to spool at low rpm's (2500-3000)

screw bmw, vw, and audi.. honda's have shined better than any german turd imho when forced.

06-04-2009, 11:17 PM	#163 (permalink)
*Full-Race Geoff* 8thcivic Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 365 iTrader: 0 / 0%	the new kit will not be released overnight, it will take time for it to be ready for the public Last edited by Full-Race Geoff; 07-01-2009 at 02:20 AM.

06-05-2009, 12:52 AM	#174 (permalink)
leonphelpss11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SWLA Posts: 1,900 iTrader: 7 / 100%	I want an affordable kit, somewhere around 4-5000 350-400 whp Like SRT has, a oil line that doesn't require tapping into oil pan Fitment is perfect fmic that doesn't require sawing off half of the frnt bumper. Dont really care about fogs good placement of things so I don't have to get vented hood and heat wrap every inch of everything. Most everyone here covered what I wanted.. But that is mainly what I want for sure full boost at 4k or around that. Sooner the better, def don't want power only at top. TQ would be nice edit: whups I meant tubular mani Last edited by leonphelpss11; 06-05-2009 at 01:26 AM.

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lessthanwise Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,434 Danny iTrader: 0 / 0%	from legacygt.com: a twin scroll or divided housing works to reduce lag, decrease exhaust manifold backpressure on the top end, reduce the potential for reversion, and increase fuel economy.

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soxfan143 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lynnfield, MA Age: 35 Posts: 6,768 Mike iTrader: 6 / 100%	Sweet. Geoff is here. Thanks god!!!!! Now a LOT of things will get cleared up. Glad to see you bud.

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Ronmaster901 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Age: 20 Posts: 247 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I cant wait to see this set up. I already know what my reaction is going to be... lol

06-05-2009, 12:54 AM	#175 (permalink)
Ronmaster901 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Age: 20 Posts: 247 iTrader: 0 / 0%	log style mani ftl. tubular, like AJP. proven to work.

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Ronmaster901 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Age: 20 Posts: 247 iTrader: 0 / 0%	If you guys want mid range power...get a VW or Audi....These machines we have here are high reving high end hp motors. Lets work with what we got.

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Radicalblackcivic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,479 iTrader: 14 / 100%	hehehe, ya everyday i get more convienced just to sell my greddy turbo kit... and get something like this... i wont be selling till the end of the year tho.

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cellulis44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Hill, VA Posts: 159 Chris iTrader: 0 / 0%	on a turbocharged vehicle, low and mid range grunt will be determined by the a/r of the hot side. doesnt matter its a 2.0 german motor or a 2.0 honda.... the secret is find the perfect turbine thats doesnt just spool to full boost close to redline. the optimal setup is a tubular manifold and a medium-small sized turbine housing on a big wheel (62-68mm) A small turnine housing 76 would really shine if given just enough back pressure to spool at low rpm's (2500-3000) screw bmw, vw, and audi.. honda's have shined better than any german turd imho when forced.