Full-Race stepping into the ring...

[cellulis44]

man... yall are ruthless lol

[spenny]

Originally Posted by HHondaZC

how about a promise that doesnt take 3 yrs to produce like hondata

I dont recall Hondata promising anything.

[NY08Si]

i dont think he is saying that hondata promised that.. i think he is asking for a promise from full race that it wont take 3 years... and i really hope it doenst cause i leave for germany in january

[thisisdudewhoru]

Gt35r. Sidemount manifold. Reliable 375whp. Everything included in kit. Honestly, I don't think it should take them long....Most of stuff from rsx should fit fairly well, maybe a few adjustments to placement of turbo on manifold in engine bay, new ic piping and they've just gotta tune it...

[NY08Si]

well lets hope the dont have to wait forever gods hear our prayers

[bossman]

Originally Posted by whipsnap

when is everyone so wound on sidewinder manifolds? they have boost creep like a mofo. they look cool and flow well, but damn. i hope its something new.

please explain how a manifold design is the cause of boost creep?From what I know(I.E. have read extensively)boost creep is caused by a wastegate that is too small for the application.the solution to that,buy a bigger wastegate.

[thisisdudewhoru]

Yea, i've never read of boost creep...The sidewinder just gives longer runners which=more exhaust velocity which should help it spool a little faster.

[gpomp]

Originally Posted by whipsnap

sounds like you want a greddy kit..... lol (besides the GT28) but seriously... people who only want 250-300whp.... won't want to buy this kit

not a fan of the greddy kit. don't like the cast manifold that much or the t25 flange. at least on the FR there's the option to upgrade to a larger turbo. the robotic tig welds are nice too.

by the time i replace all the crappy parts that come with the greddy kit like external wastegate, 3" downpipe, bov, etc... i might as well have bought the FR kit to begin with.

also, a quick look at the FR site will show that you can get the gt28rs with most of the turbo kits they sell including b-series and k-series kits.

[cellulis44]

what flange are most of these bolt on kits using?

you get a t25 there is basically no room to grow...

[Supa Ninja]

i have seen gt3076r's with t25 turbine housings(those are good for over 500hp). there are adapters to fit bigger turbos to t25 flanges. hey GReddy guys chime in here but I thought the GReddy kit used a different flange then a T25.

[Ronmaster901]

Originally Posted by gpomp

not a fan of the greddy kit. don't like the cast manifold that much or the t25 flange. at least on the FR there's the option to upgrade to a larger turbo. the robotic tig welds are nice too.

by the time i replace all the crappy parts that come with the greddy kit like external wastegate, 3" downpipe, bov, etc... i might as well have bought the FR kit to begin with.

also, a quick look at the FR site will show that you can get the gt28rs with most of the turbo kits they sell including b-series and k-series kits.

Youre right on replacing the parts of the kit and yeah, you might as well get a full race kit...but im not sure the goals you want (300whp low-mid range power) will be what Full Race is shooting for. If you are stuck on a gt28rs, and mid range power, buying a full race turbo kit might be a waste of your money

[Radicalblackcivic]

ya i might go this route too, i might be selling my greddy kit by the end of this summer and just get either this kit, swift or ajp... depends who get better price... because i know they are all good quality...

[Supa Ninja]

what about piecing together a kit?

[NY08Si]

Yo this thread has been up for 7 days now and still no full race turbo kit....wtf!!!!! j/k. I wanna go boosted so bad but i want a guality kit that is capible of producing high hp. I am stuck on this thread i check it like every 30 minutes for updates..lol.. im desperate

[Radicalblackcivic]

i might do that too.. piece it together... i already got my 255 walbro in, my clutch masters in... i got some je low compression pistons and eagle rods but i dunno yet if i want to put them in yet, still trying to decide

[DevilDoc87]

Originally Posted by soxfan143

So true Roger but you could argue these things all day with the amount of choices out there. There are so many different options that if you just don't choose one you'll be chasing different options for ever. Lol....For me it will probably boil down to price. My GF is giving me some crap about spending so much money on the car now that I might have to cool down a bit and bite the bullet and buy her a ring. That will keep her off my back for a bit. But a ring will cost just as much as the FR kit I want. lol....Decisions decisions. wife or car?.......lol......

I was where u were at last month... So instead of going SRT, i have a GReddy Kit, and she has a 2 carat diamond ring.. Win Win situation.. I have boost, she has diamonds.. I get sex, and I get boost.

So with the ring, it made me happy on the inside, even though I wont be pushing like I wanted too... But hey, you can make more money and upgraded the car later, at least she wont be nagging the whole time..

[soxfan143]

Originally Posted by DevilDoc87

I was where u were at last month... So instead of going SRT, i have a GReddy Kit, and she has a 2 carat diamond ring.. Win Win situation.. I have boost, she has diamonds.. I get sex, and I get boost.

So with the ring, it made me happy on the inside, even though I wont be pushing like I wanted too... But hey, you can make more money and upgraded the car later, at least she wont be nagging the whole time..

Lol.. So true bro. But I just don't know.

But back on topic. now some one said something about boost creep from a manifold not being possible? Not true. A manifold absolutely cause boost creep. Especially a poorly designed one or someone trying to make a knock-off and not doing it properly. There are multiple ways a manifold can cause creep. Poor runner design, poor collector design and poor wastegate location. Though a poor wastegate is the most common reasons of creep a manifold is right up there.

Now for the last time, Full-Race is NOT, I repeat, NOT making a sidewinder manifold for the 8th gen Si. I will say it again. There will NOT be a sidewinder manifold for the Civic. Nor will they just retrofit the RSX kit or any part of it. Please just hang tight for Geoff to join us. I believe he's waiting for sponsor status so he can do his thing. But I could be wrong on that. Just a guess.

[realxlai]

so an ajp tubular type manifold?

[DevilDoc87]

im interested to see what they come out with... either i can afford it or not

[Full-Race Geoff]

hey guys -- ive had a hectic week sorry i couldnt post sooner. I will work on a detailed post answering many of the questions in this thread, as well as clearing up a LOT of misinformation and misunderstandings.

thanks for your patience, we will not let you down.