Swift Racing Tech. Si Turbo Kit - Page 57

leonphelpss11 · 06-04-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 07CivicMD

If you break down the kit piece by piece.. on paper the kit can produce over 400whp..

with the AEM piggyback.. and many hours of TUNING the car produces 320whp.. very conservative tune.. since Mo insisted the car be driven for awhile.. to see if any codes or other issues would crop up.. saying that.. the 40 hours of tuning is what gave the car 320whp.. conversative tune.. with the exhaust.. the car should produce between 350..360.. 370.. ish power with the almost the same tune.. since the stock ECU has learned over this time.. most likely the car is running richer.. that being said.. the long term and short term fuel trims may need adjusting.. Mo would take into factor for the rich state.. do minor tweak to the tune.. and produce more whp.. to correct for the rich conditions..

I just don't get why you insist it's not the tune.. like i stated above.. the kit on paper will produce those numbers.. from what you are stating.. you want to see Mo hit the 400whp mark.. to prove it?

Also.. the new FlashPro itself should produce more whp then the AEM.. since the flashpro is more tuned towards the Honda ECU.. only time will tell..

If your worried about maxing the turbo out.. get the billet version.. it will produce more whp on the same sized turbo.. or the 6262..

I'm not saying its not in the tune. I'm just saying the kit MAY have been maxed out. Doesn't matter what it says on paper, on the dyno with a piggy back that doesn't control all aspects it only produced 320. I didn't realize that was a conservative tune. I didn't know that they dynoed tuned for close to two days only to get a conservative tune. Whatever doesn't matter, just waiting for results of the Flashpro

How the hell do you get 320-350/60/70 (on the same tune that after 40 hrs produced only 320) from the motor leaning out then say the car is runnign richer? I don't get very much of what you're saying.

Reasons why nitpicking numbers is such a big deal is I don't wanna spend xxxx extra dollars when this kit will only give a few more hp from SC stg 2

Supa Ninja · 06-04-2009, 04:14 PM

how much torque do you get from a SC stg2?

leonphelpss11 · 06-04-2009, 04:37 PM

300whp/200tq +/- a few

Supa Ninja · 06-04-2009, 04:42 PM

those numbers are after full bolt-ons.....and your comparing that to a turbo kit with stock exhaust? seriously dude just get the SC and quit posting all that nonesense. BTW its not just about whp but torque too. how's the saying go, hp wins on the dyno but torque wins on the track.

**NitrousG35** · 06-04-2009, 05:34 PM

Let's keep all the comments polite and respectful here. No need to demean each other. This is a great thread that Soxfan143 did and we should all be happy that our community has more options available to it.

udumkid · 06-04-2009, 05:42 PM

edit..

Si2Typ3R · 06-04-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by realxlai

nono i meant like.. std or sae

From the Dynos Ive seen SRT put out they have been STD Corrected, SAE will be a little lower

realxlai · 06-04-2009, 05:45 PM

so take 8% off their 320

Si2Typ3R · 06-04-2009, 05:53 PM

Its still all speculation, that was 320 with AEM, FlashPro should produce better results plus like Roger has been saying its all in the tune. SRT seems to be putting out a conservative tune to keep people from blowing their otherwise stock motors up. If people want to get crazy numbers on their stock internals this kit CAN produce enough to severely shorten the life of a stock K20z3.

udumkid · 06-04-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by realxlai

so take 8% off their 320

That's about 294..

realxlai · 06-04-2009, 06:01 PM

just don't go over 10lbs and you won't be frying anything per say lol

realxlai · 06-04-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by udumkid

That's about 294..

so yeah that sounds a lot closer to the dyno they did @ the CPT meet

Si2Typ3R · 06-04-2009, 06:05 PM

Theres always the option to throw in a thicker head gasket to bump the boost up a bit, FlashPro ability to control cam angles will come into play as well. If the AJP guys can run in the 400's then this kit should do just fine

realxlai · 06-04-2009, 06:07 PM

shoot, cobb too

***ojefferyo*** · 06-04-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Si2Typ3R

Theres always the option to throw in a thicker head gasket to bump the boost up a bit, FlashPro ability to control cam angles will come into play as well. If the AJP guys can run in the 400's then this kit should do just fine

yea but i think AJP also uses a bigger turbo then the ones that comes with the standard kit

ccking85 · 06-04-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

Let's keep all the comments polite and respectful here. No need to demean each other. This is a great thread that Soxfan143 did and we should all be happy that our community has more options available to it.

Are you talking about the Full Race thread?

***ojefferyo*** · 06-04-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by realxlai

nice choice

yeah i figure 500whp is my goal so why not pay the difference in upgrading the turbo now rather getting the 6262 later and paying another $1k or so and having to try to sell a used turbo, which probably won't go too well as from what i have seen on here.

udumkid · 06-04-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ccking85

Are you talking about the Full Race thread?

Cant wait to see what they come out with for the Fg's.

Acebreus · 06-04-2009, 06:51 PM

From what research I've done, the base ajp and srt kits use very similar parts.

07CivicMD · 06-04-2009, 10:41 PM

Basically the same part.. but honestly the kit will fit perfectly out of the box.. not to hate on AJP.. but Swift prides itself on making a good kit.. for a 3 man shop..

I will correct some comments I made earlier.. First.. I don't mean to speak for Mo.. trust me.. he will chat here soon enough.. The kit as of now makes around 320whp.. standard.. (still need to verify that on the dyno computer) with stock exhaust and performance cat.. so as of know.. that's what the kit makes.. The website states the kit makes 400bhp... so that's what Mo stand by.. I don't want to seem like an ass-hat to everyone and won't take this any further.. other to say what the kit is one of the nicer kits on the market.. can it complete against FullRace.. I have no clue at this time.. Sorry to everyone if I had offended anyone..

06-04-2009, 05:34 PM	#1125 (permalink)
NitrousG35 Join Date: May 2007 Location: To Infiniti and beyond... Posts: 18,142 Never Again! iTrader: 3 / 100%	Let's keep all the comments polite and respectful here. No need to demean each other. This is a great thread that Soxfan143 did and we should all be happy that our community has more options available to it. __________________ Some cause happiness wherever they go: others whenever they go. -Oscar Wilde

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realxlai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Going in, grabbin yo butt. Goin in, like a Tiger Woods putt Age: 20 Posts: 18,840 M. Bison iTrader: 37 / 100%	shoot, cobb too Last edited by realxlai; 06-04-2009 at 06:11 PM.

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Supa Ninja Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: H-town Posts: 3,835 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	those numbers are after full bolt-ons.....and your comparing that to a turbo kit with stock exhaust? seriously dude just get the SC and quit posting all that nonesense. BTW its not just about whp but torque too. how's the saying go, hp wins on the dyno but torque wins on the track.

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realxlai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Going in, grabbin yo butt. Goin in, like a Tiger Woods putt Age: 20 Posts: 18,840 M. Bison iTrader: 37 / 100%	so take 8% off their 320

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Si2Typ3R Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: D.C. Posts: 3,185 Nate iTrader: 7 / 100%	Its still all speculation, that was 320 with AEM, FlashPro should produce better results plus like Roger has been saying its all in the tune. SRT seems to be putting out a conservative tune to keep people from blowing their otherwise stock motors up. If people want to get crazy numbers on their stock internals this kit CAN produce enough to severely shorten the life of a stock K20z3.

06-04-2009, 06:01 PM	#1131 (permalink)
realxlai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Going in, grabbin yo butt. Goin in, like a Tiger Woods putt Age: 20 Posts: 18,840 M. Bison iTrader: 37 / 100%	just don't go over 10lbs and you won't be frying anything per say lol

06-04-2009, 06:05 PM	#1133 (permalink)
Si2Typ3R Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: D.C. Posts: 3,185 Nate iTrader: 7 / 100%	Theres always the option to throw in a thicker head gasket to bump the boost up a bit, FlashPro ability to control cam angles will come into play as well. If the AJP guys can run in the 400's then this kit should do just fine

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Acebreus Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Smyrna, Tn Posts: 20 Tim iTrader: 0 / 0%	From what research I've done, the base ajp and srt kits use very similar parts.

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07CivicMD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Odenton Age: 39 Posts: 2,750 Roger iTrader: 4 / 100%	Basically the same part.. but honestly the kit will fit perfectly out of the box.. not to hate on AJP.. but Swift prides itself on making a good kit.. for a 3 man shop.. I will correct some comments I made earlier.. First.. I don't mean to speak for Mo.. trust me.. he will chat here soon enough.. The kit as of now makes around 320whp.. standard.. (still need to verify that on the dyno computer) with stock exhaust and performance cat.. so as of know.. that's what the kit makes.. The website states the kit makes 400bhp... so that's what Mo stand by.. I don't want to seem like an ass-hat to everyone and won't take this any further.. other to say what the kit is one of the nicer kits on the market.. can it complete against FullRace.. I have no clue at this time.. Sorry to everyone if I had offended anyone..