DIY: Changing Manual Transmission Fluid

[Oil Doc]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

yeah right... try aruging with the people who works with your car... thats like arguing with the people who deal with your food.

Been there, Done that and did it successfully... 2 things... Attitude and go in armed with proper information.

I especially love it when they tell you that you need to have the first service performed by the Dealer to keep the warranty intact.. If that were fact, they have to supply it for free... Next is with Fluids and Maintenance... It is against the law (In USA) for them to void a warranty due to Brand of fluid, as long as it meets OEM Specs, and for that matter, the time interval of maintenance can not be used to void warranty.

Originally Posted by ebdiam

If I want to flush the tranny how should I go about doing that?
I bought a gallon of Red Line MTL - I was thinking about just draining the OEM MTF, refilling with Red Line MTL, then drive it around a bit (maybe for a few days), then drain again and refill.
Or would it be better to just drain the OEM MTF, refill with new MTL, drain new MTL, and refill with new MTL?

Redline will like you for using double the fluid necessary.

Drain the fluid when the tranny is hot and replace the fluid..

The following link will give you an idea of how there is no regulations that companies have to follow where Gear Lube is concerned.

http://bestoil4you.com/files/g2457GearLube.pdf

You could almost take Maple Syrup, add a little sulpher for sniff factor and sell it for gear lube...

Doc

[ebdiam]

^ Then I guess Maple Syrup is optimal for Honda transmissions because Red Line MTL seems to have cured a lot of peoples grinding, notchyness, and popping out of gear issues, Lol.

[08_Civic]

This is a noob question but this does apply to LX and EX M/T too right?

[truflip]

yes, pretty much the same stuff.

[Oil Doc]

Originally Posted by ebdiam

^ Then I guess Maple Syrup is optimal for Honda transmissions because Red Line MTL seems to have cured a lot of peoples grinding, notchyness, and popping out of gear issues, Lol.

With enough Sulpher in it, I would almost consider it over Redline or RP

Doc

[soxfan143]

Amsoil MTF was HORRIBLE!!! I switched to Redline and my transmission works flawlessly. I'm putting down 303whp and 260wtq and my tranny is perfect. I was having serious 3rd gear popout and engagement problems along with some 2nd gear grinding. I went with the Redline stuff and all the problems were instantly fixed. I also tried a few different brands of Amsoil motor oil in my turbo motor and the stuff smoked and burnt off faster than I've ver seen. The GReddy oil outperformed it and so did the Mobil1, barely. The best stuff so far has been the Motul 8100 5W-40. But I'm going to go with the Motul 300 5w-40 next time. My personal opinion is Amsoil blows ass. And I really don't give a crap about oil analysis or any crap on the internet. My REAL WORLD experience with Amsoil was terrible.

[Zeuceone]

I also believe amsoil stuff blows ass. Im having real bad 2nd grind ever since I put it in

Where can I get the redline stuff?

[soxfan143]

I got the Redline stuff locally so I don't know where on line to get it. Try Redline.com and look for distributors.

[ebdiam]

Originally Posted by Zeuceone

Where can I get the redline stuff?

Yeah I just bought a gallon off redline.com - now I have 2 qts of unopened amsoil mtf that i do not know what to do with it, lol.

[soxfan143]

Originally Posted by ebdiam

Yeah I just bought a gallon off redline.com - now I have 2 qts of unopened amsoil mtf that i do not know what to do with it, lol.

Give it to goodwill. Lol....

[BATANG CITY JAIL]

Originally Posted by Oil Doc

Been there, Done that and did it successfully... 2 things... Attitude and go in armed with proper information.

I especially love it when they tell you that you need to have the first service performed by the Dealer to keep the warranty intact.. If that were fact, they have to supply it for free... Next is with Fluids and Maintenance... It is against the law (In USA) for them to void a warranty due to Brand of fluid, as long as it meets OEM Specs, and for that matter, the time interval of maintenance can not be used to void warranty.





Doc

im sure 98% of americans dont know what you know so as the 99% of the member of this forum. doc.

[ebdiam]

Originally Posted by soxfan143

Give it to goodwill. Lol....

Will they accept it? They have standards..

[soxfan143]

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

im sure 98% of americans dont know what you know so as the 99% of the member of this forum. doc.

All the lab testing and BS comparisons mean **** compared to real world issues. I've used that Amsoil crap and my transmission and motor operated horribly. The oil burnt off like it was wesson oil and the tranny barely shifted right. As soon as I got that crap out of my car everything worked like it was supposed to. Did that BS test tell me anything about how their fluids would perform in my car?

[Oil Doc]

Originally Posted by soxfan143

Amsoil MTF was HORRIBLE!!! I switched to Redline and my transmission works flawlessly. I'm putting down 303whp and 260wtq and my tranny is perfect. I was having serious 3rd gear popout and engagement problems along with some 2nd gear grinding. I went with the Redline stuff and all the problems were instantly fixed. I also tried a few different brands of Amsoil motor oil in my turbo motor and the stuff smoked and burnt off faster than I've ver seen. The GReddy oil outperformed it and so did the Mobil1, barely. The best stuff so far has been the Motul 8100 5W-40. But I'm going to go with the Motul 300 5w-40 next time. My personal opinion is Amsoil blows ass. And I really don't give a crap about oil analysis or any crap on the internet. My REAL WORLD experience with Amsoil was terrible.

Kind of hard to draw any comparison when you are running 2 different weight fluids, much less types of fluid, but if it didn't work, it didn't work. I would have went with the MTG seeing the MTF is designed to replace the OEM Fluid.

My real world experience is I have several hundred Honda owners that have had just the opposite experience as you, along with the Honda Dealerships I sell to, so there is a good possibility it could be driver error.

Doc

[soxfan143]

Originally Posted by Oil Doc

Kind of hard to draw any comparison when you are running 2 different weight fluids, much less types of fluid, but if it didn't work, it didn't work. I would have went with the MTG seeing the MTF is designed to replace the OEM Fluid.

My real world experience is I have several hundred Honda owners that have had just the opposite experience as you, along with the Honda Dealerships I sell to, so there is a good possibility it could be driver error.

Doc

Are you serious dude. I love that. When your all mighty product fails it's always driver error. So then I all of a sudden learned how to shift my car when I installed the redline MTL? And I was running my motor wrong with the Amsoil oil in it and that was causing the oil to burn off like crisco? Dude, I've been driving manual transmissions for 20 years and have NEVER had a clutch or a transmission crap out on me. I've had a manual 95 Mustang GT, a 93 Accord 5speed, and used to drive my fathers 92 Porsche 911 turbo regularly and I've never had an issue with shifting. Plus it's a common issue with these cars. So nice cover with the driver error. Amsoil blows ass.

[Oil Doc]

I just said it was a possibility... You drew the line to making it definitive..

And Dude... I have been driving manual trannies for close to 40 years... Not sure what that has to do with anything... I have never tore up a Gear Box either... Have smoked a clutch or two launching 3700 lb cars at 8K.... LOL

I just think that after over 35 years in business and almost 25 with AMSOIL, I have not had these problems with the thousands of people I have dealt with. I even have a Ferrari Dealership using AMSOIL after I cured a shift problem on a Testarossa, nd I have Honda Dealerships using the AMSOIL MTF as it smooths the shifts.. So I have to wonder why you have problems..

I usually find that someone that has a complaint like that and is so adamant about it has not used the product, used the wrong product or it was taken in to have the fluid changed and the guy changing it has swapped it out so he could keep it.

Another good one, and have seen it on this forum, possibly in this thread is where they filled it with as much fluid as it would take and at least one jacked the car up on it's side so it would take more fluid.....

Sorry, after this many years in the business, I find your claim hard to believe... Not saying it is impossible, just hard to believe. Could have always been a bad batch just as it can happen with any manufacturer.

Happy New Year !!

Doc

[Tongman]

I'm putting Amsoil in my tranny...there will always be a few bad nuts out there...

[phoenixdrago12]

I just bought my amsoil today.. gotta go get me a jack and the oil suction tool.

I'm at 21,500... hope that it'll still make a difference..

[Oil Doc]

Originally Posted by phoenixdrago12

I just bought my amsoil today.. gotta go get me a jack and the oil suction tool.

I'm at 21,500... hope that it'll still make a difference..

Should have bought the G-2039 Pump from AMSOIL for $9.95. It screws right on top of their wide-mouth bottles.

Doc

[phoenixdrago12]

Originally Posted by Oil Doc

Should have bought the G-2039 Pump from AMSOIL for $9.95. It screws right on top of their wide-mouth bottles.

Doc

It's all good. I just got a 4.99 suction tool from harbor freight and it worked wonders!



Just finished changing my Tranny fluid to Amsoil. Going to take her out for a spin later.

woot woot!!!