DIY: Changing Manual Transmission Fluid - Page 22

ebdiam · 12-20-2008, 01:49 AM

double post sorry, crappy browser glitches out..

ebdiam · 12-20-2008, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ebdiam

^ I would think so too..
I have slight notchyness in 3rd so I bought amsoil mtf which I will use to see if that fixes the issue. I also want to take it into the dealership to see if they can replicate it and fix it but I am sure if they find out I changed the MTF or discover the tranny drain plug has been changed (I want to install a magnetic drain plug) that they will void my warranty.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 12-20-2008, 01:49 AM

qouting ur self FTW.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 12-20-2008, 01:50 AM

my goodness its x4.

Oil Doc · 12-20-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

the dealership will try to find a way to stay away from a warranty work.. trust me if they found out that u change it.. they will viod it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil Doc

What difference does it make ? They can't void a warranty for too much maintenance.. Or, a lack thereof for that matter.

Doc

A Dealership can NOT void a warranty, it must be done by an OEM Rep. They may try to tell you that, but you just need to better armed with the proper information when you deal with it.

NEXT: There is NO WAY, No How, they could void a warranty for doing Maintenance..

It is against the Law for them to try, that's all there is to it.

Doc

ebdiam · 12-20-2008, 11:58 PM

^ So are you saying have the dealership drain and refill the tranny with another MTF (ie = amsoil) or its safe to do it yourself and still retain your warranty?

Oil Doc · 12-21-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebdiam

^ So are you saying have the dealership drain and refill the tranny with another MTF (ie = amsoil) or its safe to do it yourself and still retain your warranty?

either they or you can change the fluid with whatever brand you choose as long as it meets the fluid spec'd by the OEM.

In Honda's case.... their specs are so loose, it is a joke... If MTF cannot be found use a 10W-40 or 10W-30 Motor Oil... One fluid that you cannot use is a GL-5 Gear Lube.. Loose spec's ??? MTF is a GL-4 and a Motor oil is a GL-1.

Of course, the proper fluid such as AMSOIL MTF will make your transmission shift smoother and last longer.

It makes no difference what the Dealer says, The Law trumps that... It is calle The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act

Doc

kris5597 · 12-24-2008, 10:17 PM

alright well what would the best and proper fluid to put in an si?

kris5597 · 12-24-2008, 10:18 PM

do our cars use 75w-90? if so im thinking either amsoil's good stuff or redline mt-90

joon joon · 12-25-2008, 07:03 AM

no 5w-30...

ebdiam · 12-25-2008, 02:12 PM

75w-90 should be the same weight as 5w-30 its just measured diff, i think..

joon joon · 12-25-2008, 08:50 PM

i dont know... cuz i know amsoil has a fluid thats 75w-90 but the synchromesh is 5w-30 so 2 different things im guessing

ebdiam · 12-26-2008, 02:56 AM

Pretty sure other oils like Royal Purple rate their MTF at 75w-90 while Amsoil rates it at 5w-30, should be the same thing..
Can anyone confirm this?

Oil Doc · 12-26-2008, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebdiam

75w-90 should be the same weight as 5w-30 its just measured diff, i think..

Negative.... 75W-90 is about the same as 20W-50

Quote:

Originally Posted by joon joon

i dont know... cuz i know amsoil has a fluid thats 75w-90 but the synchromesh is 5w-30 so 2 different things im guessing

AMSOIL MTF 5W-30 is the proper Fluid for the Honda Manual Trans. MTG is the 75W-90 for other applications such as EVO's or Dodge NV 4500 transmissions and others calling for a Gear Lube Type Lubricant. MTF and MTG are not compatible and should never be mixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebdiam

Pretty sure other oils like Royal Purple rate their MTF at 75w-90 while Amsoil rates it at 5w-30, should be the same thing..
Can anyone confirm this?

F stands for Fluid.... G for Gear Lube with AMSOIL...

The following Link is to a Study of Gear Lubes and was performed by Several Independent Testing Facilities which are ISO Accredited..

http://bestoil4you.com/files/g2457GearLube.pdf

What most people don't realize is that there is No Governing Body for Gear Lubes. I could almost bottle some Maple Syrup, use a little sulpher for sniff factor and sell it for Gear Lube... Of course, a good Maple Syrup is way more expensive than Gear Lube and tastes better on my pancakes.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 12-27-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil Doc

A Dealership can NOT void a warranty, it must be done by an OEM Rep. They may try to tell you that, but you just need to better armed with the proper information when you deal with it.

NEXT: There is NO WAY, No How, they could void a warranty for doing Maintenance..

It is against the Law for them to try, that's all there is to it.

Doc

yeah right... try aruging with the people who works with your car... thats like arguing with the people who deal with your food.

FG1JDM · 12-27-2008, 03:40 PM

at how many miles do you need to do this

***Zeuceone*** · 12-27-2008, 03:41 PM

for auto's its 50k. al you do is empty the tranny and put new fluid in.

FG1JDM · 12-27-2008, 03:43 PM

i have a 5 speed

***obert*** · 12-27-2008, 04:43 PM

Nice DIY,thanks.

ebdiam · 12-27-2008, 07:06 PM

If I want to flush the tranny how should I go about doing that?
I bought a gallon of Red Line MTL - I was thinking about just draining the OEM MTF, refilling with Red Line MTL, then drive it around a bit (maybe for a few days), then drain again and refill.
Or would it be better to just drain the OEM MTF, refill with new MTL, drain new MTL, and refill with new MTL?

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12-20-2008, 11:58 PM	#426 (permalink)
ebdiam Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 22 Posts: 3,696 Evan iTrader: 25 / 100%	^ So are you saying have the dealership drain and refill the tranny with another MTF (ie = amsoil) or its safe to do it yourself and still retain your warranty?

12-24-2008, 10:17 PM	#428 (permalink)
kris5597 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 20 Posts: 612 Kris iTrader: 0 / 0%	alright well what would the best and proper fluid to put in an si?

12-24-2008, 10:18 PM	#429 (permalink)
kris5597 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Age: 20 Posts: 612 Kris iTrader: 0 / 0%	do our cars use 75w-90? if so im thinking either amsoil's good stuff or redline mt-90

12-25-2008, 07:03 AM	#430 (permalink)
joon joon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,001 iTrader: 30 / 100%	no 5w-30...

12-25-2008, 02:12 PM	#431 (permalink)
ebdiam Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 22 Posts: 3,696 Evan iTrader: 25 / 100%	75w-90 should be the same weight as 5w-30 its just measured diff, i think..

12-25-2008, 08:50 PM	#432 (permalink)
joon joon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,001 iTrader: 30 / 100%	i dont know... cuz i know amsoil has a fluid thats 75w-90 but the synchromesh is 5w-30 so 2 different things im guessing

12-26-2008, 02:56 AM	#433 (permalink)
ebdiam Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 22 Posts: 3,696 Evan iTrader: 25 / 100%	Pretty sure other oils like Royal Purple rate their MTF at 75w-90 while Amsoil rates it at 5w-30, should be the same thing.. Can anyone confirm this?

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*obert* # 1 Friend Whore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Wa Posts: 40,273 Robert iTrader: 100 / 100%	Nice DIY,thanks.

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FG1JDM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Around the corner Age: 24 Posts: 4,086 me llamo tu madre iTrader: 3 / 100%	at how many miles do you need to do this

12-27-2008, 03:43 PM	#438 (permalink)
FG1JDM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Around the corner Age: 24 Posts: 4,086 me llamo tu madre iTrader: 3 / 100%	i have a 5 speed

12-27-2008, 07:06 PM	#440 (permalink)
ebdiam Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 22 Posts: 3,696 Evan iTrader: 25 / 100%	If I want to flush the tranny how should I go about doing that? I bought a gallon of Red Line MTL - I was thinking about just draining the OEM MTF, refilling with Red Line MTL, then drive it around a bit (maybe for a few days), then drain again and refill. Or would it be better to just drain the OEM MTF, refill with new MTL, drain new MTL, and refill with new MTL?