Gaming These Days

[HTX]

I own a ps3 currently and i've noticed what seems to be a trend in at least the ps3 line-up. A lot of these next gen games are so lacking. So much attention is being given to the visuals that the acutal gameplay sucks. I was searching games for the ps3 on amazon and read reviews and ratings. So many stupid things in these games that could kill the experience of the games. I also noticed with online multi-player games growing so much the real game campaigne/story is much shorter and even half-assed. That right there pretty much sums it all up. Games these days all seem half-assed/rushed and ruined by small things. "make it look good and get it out there" seems to be the guidelines. Am i the only one with this opinion? How about on other consoles? Is the selection this stale a well?

[maximo61170]

yea im not too much into graphics. thats why i like nintendo. they dont have great graphics, but i love the games so much. zelda, metriod, mario... all great games.

but i would have to agree on how developers halfass campaign. but when you finish campaign with no multiplayer, what are you gonna do? get a new game. so if they make online hella dope (halo ftw), people will be playing it years after the release.

its just the times tho. people are more into playing with other people. honestly when i get a game, i play online. campaign is something i do when no one is on

i feel ya to. just get a wii and if you get bored of the new games, just get the old games on the vc.

[HTX]

Im just a lil disappointed with the ps3. Paid $600 and has all this potential but none of the developers care to make a game worht a shit. I dont even know why the ps3 has 4 control ports. You can barely make use of 2. I was hoping for more responses and a lil more of a discussion but i guess its just going to be my ps3 rant thread lol. Ps3 is one of the most anti-social gaming consoles i've ever owned. U can play online against strangers on the other side of the world but not a couple of ur buds in ur own house.. Im not expecting pefection in every aspect of the game but it would be nice to at least see there was some effort put into other sections of games other than the main attraction.

[Special Ringpop]

This has been going on since PS2, if you ask me. Games used to be limited by graphical capabilities, but now that we are getting systems with amazing graphic powers, the stories and systems of these games are starting to lack miserably.

And, in my opinion, the field in which the most devastating blow occurred was RPGs. The plot and battle systems of these games are utterly nothing but recycled stories with slight variations, and all emphasis is put on making it look as "cool" as possible graphics-wise.

I miss the days of Super Nintendo where games had to be stellar with rich characters, engaging stories, and unique battle systems.

And that is the #1 reason I've yet to buy a next gen console.

[Rallyecivic]

it's the "DROUGHT" of gaming.
For the past months nothing is spectacular, just mediocre games nothing amazing.
me and my buddy have 360's and nothings good, nor for PC.

And OP is right, they are concentrating on the visuals only, they compete on who makes best graphics while they lack the gameplay.

[FunkPnut]

In general, the best games come out before the holiday season since this is the best/fastest return on investment for publishers. There are definitely exceptions...

It costs millions of dollars for what would be considered a great game. Publishing a game must have a budget so that money can be made on the final product.

Also, if timelines aren't met, more money is lost from pre-paid advertisements and shelf stocking. If the game isn't ready, the publisher loses thousands/millions of dollars for pre-paid shelf space that isn't being used.

This generally leads to trimming of features, gameplay, and graphics if there just isn't enough time to make a deadline ultimately for a less than stellar experience.

Sometimes the supervisors that really don't know much about games feel that there are aspects that they want to push, such as graphics or online play.

More companies want to have games that have online play because of the success and demand from consumers. Same goes for the graphics. You buy a PS3, so consumers want a game that uses the graphical potential of the machine, but again the problem: time/money.

Newer gen systems just take a lot longer to develop since the demand for more features, better graphics, and in depth gameplay is much higher compared to previous gen systems.

The best games tend to be successful franchises such as Halo, GTA, EA sports, Guitar Hero... since its proved to sell well and more development time can be invested in how to improve instead of creating a game from scratch.

Its really no surprise the trends of the videogame industry.

[aodmisery]

i personally buy a game for the one player campaign or coop not for online play thats like the last thing i look for in a game but it seems all games have that nowadays. which suck cause they sometimes they take more time designing the online mode rather than the campaign mode.

[HTX]

Halo 1 for example, since its the only one i played, was a solid game all around. I hope things pick up. It would be shame to see these systems miss out on so much. To me imo it would benefit everybody more if there were top notch games being made but taking longer to come out. Yes there would be less title out but when they do arrive they are at their best, which in turn ppl would play more for a longer period of time. I think the develpers would benefit as well since there would be more sales. Word spreads fast on whether or not a game is any good.

[j0ntar]

there is no lack of great PC games.

Portal and Crysis are to awsome single player experiences.

Some games are written for the PC and ported to the console COD4 for example. Playing an FPS on console is the same as driving a car without a stick, sure its viable but its a horrible experience. Plus the COD series was meant more for the Multiplayer experience.

Sure PC gaming is more expensive but save some Nintendo games (old and new) there isnt any reason to go console over PC.

[FunkPnut]

Originally Posted by j0ntar

Sure PC gaming is more expensive but save some Nintendo games (old and new) there isnt any reason to go console over PC.

Would one reason be that its more expensive?

I used to really like PC gaming and tweaking for optimal performance, but I'm to the point where I'd rather just toss a game in and play.

However, the mouse is really key in FPS and RTS.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by FunkPnut

Would one reason be that its more expensive?
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its not more expensive unless you care about visuals more than game play (see original post)

its significantly cheaper if you just want to play. people need to get it out of their heads that you need a $500 video card and an $800 CPU to play games...a Celeron and a $100 video card will do fine...


anyway, i do have alot to say about this, but ill chime in later.

[j0ntar]

It depends on the game e60. Crysis for example is a monster, i have a 8800GT, 4gb of ram and Athlon64 X2 6400+ on 64bit Vista which can only run Crysis on medium, you really need SLI for this game(which ill do shortly, as soon as the finance gets her wedding). You can not play Crysis and enjoy the experience on anything but an 8000 series nvidia card (or the ATI equivalent).

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by j0ntar

It depends on the game e60. Crysis for example is a monster, i have a 8800GT, 4gb of ram and Athlon64 X2 6400+ on 64bit Vista which can only run Crysis on medium, you really need SLI for this game(which ill do shortly, as soon as the finance gets her wedding). You can not play Crysis and enjoy the experience on anything but an 8000 series nvidia card (or the ATI equivalent).

of course you can.

despite the fact that it will put an 8800GTX to shame on high mode, on low and medium, its actually VER VERY scalable. more so than other games.

its system requirements are not bad at all:

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz (3.2 GHz for Vista), Intel Core 2.0 GHz (2.2 GHz for Vista), AMD Athlon 2800+ (3200+ for Vista) or better
RAM: 1GB (1.5GB on Windows Vista)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Radeon X800 Pro for Vista) or better

a Dual Core Celeron and an 8600GT ($100) will be fine.

[shadedream]

Dang... didnt realize Crysis had such low requirements... my old gaming PC would basically be the bottom end (Athlon XP 2800+, Radeon 9800XT, 1GB). Maybe I'll have to try it out on my iMac (2.4ghz Core 2, ATI 2400 XT, 3gb).

I agree on gaming these days... the reason I haven't purchased anything beyond a Wii is because there arent enough worthwhile games for me to justify the cost of a system with no other use but games. A computer can be at least useful for other things, and you can build a reasonable gaming PC from scratch for the price of a PS3.

[j0ntar]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

of course you can.

despite the fact that it will put an 8800GTX to shame on high mode, on low and medium, its actually VER VERY scalable. more so than other games.

its system requirements are not bad at all:



a Dual Core Celeron and an 8600GT ($100) will be fine.

Play crysis with the min specs then respond =]. It wouldnt even be enjoyable with min specs. Crysis is one game where the graphics are part of the over all game play. You can play, say COD4 with everything on low and still come away claiming it was awsome, with crysis you'd like miss 90% of the over all experience.

For example, one of the highlights of the game (imo) was the tank fighting through the fields, and while you are fighting you are looking at the single most greatest looking scene/vista in any game, and the vista/scene isnt static. A mountain is falling apart with an alien bunker slowly breaking through a huge mountain that is taking up 80% of the sky line, men in the distance are shooting RPGs at you, you are blasting at tanks and your blast knocks over trees and kicks up mass amounts of dirt.

and why am i argue with some guy i dont know about single player games (somethign i dont usually do) ? Sure i have a dork in me, but usually not this dorky.

Needless to say to get back on topic, there is no lack of great PC games.

[maximo61170]

you wanna know why nintendo isnt all into the graphics?

original mario


realistic mario

[Civic Pride]

^^ LOL at the mario picture.

And PS3 will have great games man, dont worrie.

Grand turismo looks sick and will be alot of fun
Killzone 2
Socom Confrontation(onlin only game)
Tekken 6
Street Fighter 4
Haze
Metal Gear Solid 4
GTA 4

and the list goes on, there are many good games coming out with great gameplay and graphics, you just have to know what games to buy and what games to skip.

[KShirza1]

Originally Posted by Civic Pride

^^ LOL at the mario picture.

And PS3 will have great games man, dont worrie.

Grand turismo looks sick and will be alot of fun
Killzone 2
Socom Confrontation(onlin only game)
Tekken 6
Street Fighter 4
Haze
Metal Gear Solid 4
GTA 4

and the list goes on, there are many good games coming out with great gameplay and graphics, you just have to know what games to buy and what games to skip.

this has been the story ever since it came out... THERE WILL BE GAMES SOON!! get an xbox360 and call it a day.

[KShirza1]

Originally Posted by Special Ringpop

This has been going on since PS2, if you ask me. Games used to be limited by graphical capabilities, but now that we are getting systems with amazing graphic powers, the stories and systems of these games are starting to lack miserably.

And, in my opinion, the field in which the most devastating blow occurred was RPGs. The plot and battle systems of these games are utterly nothing but recycled stories with slight variations, and all emphasis is put on making it look as "cool" as possible graphics-wise.

I miss the days of Super Nintendo where games had to be stellar with rich characters, engaging stories, and unique battle systems.

And that is the #1 reason I've yet to buy a next gen console.

i dunn bioshock had a good story and graphics just no replay value and so did mass effect, IMO Halo 3, and COD4 was good to. hmmm... i dunno. i love gamming more than ever before and i still play all the old games on emulators that i did back in the day on my NES, SNES, SEGA etc...

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by KShirza1

this has been the story ever since it came out... THERE WILL BE GAMES SOON!! get an xbox360 and call it a day.

i cant think of a single game on XBOX that cannot be replaced by a game on the PC or PS3 that id like to play. except for ninja gaiden 2 yet to be released.

PC + PS3 ftw.