5 reasons to ditch the Mac and return to PCs

[mr_smartman]

the guys kinda bias too, if your not willing to let go of one program and learn another then its not the notebook's fault. sure you might like onenote, but there might be better open source programs out there if your willing to learn it

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by mr_smartman

the guys kinda bias too, if your not willing to let go of one program and learn another then its not the notebook's fault. sure you might like onenote, but there might be better open source programs out there if your willing to learn it

I'm not sure just who that was directed towards, but I'm more than willing to learn any kind of OS/software. I actually have loved using fedora, and wouldn't mind trying out a few different flavors of linux.

BTW, I'm very sorry if this post seemed rude in any way.. Trust me, that wasn't my intent. I just wasn't 100% on who the post was directed towards and since it seems as if I'm the most actively posting member in this thread I figured it might be me.

Also, welcome to the site bud. If you're already participating in threads like these then I'm sure that we'll all be happy to read your posts in the future.

[krytikal]

mac > pc......i dont even turn my pc on anymore

[Mech]

Those are all pretty weak arguments.

People like Mac's now because they are more stable. They don't cause you to swear at the computer every 1/2 hour. You don't have to worry about viruses. Software works like clock work with devices (especially iPods, iPhones) as the same software can be found on the mac (ie, Address Book, Mail, Safari) which makes syncing much easier. I'd rather have an aluminum case than pay a lot of money for something that feels like it's going to break.

Oh, and PC laptops don't get hot? Odd... Were they being kept in an ice bucket for this article that was written?

That article seemed like a desperate attempt to make a few quick jabs at the newer Mac users. Sadly for the PC world, everyone I talk to that has switched to Mac, loves them and is hooked 2 days in.

[EvilSardine]

Originally Posted by Mech

Those are all pretty weak arguments.

People like Mac's now because they are more stable. They don't cause you to swear at the computer every 1/2 hour. You don't have to worry about viruses. Software works like clock work with devices (especially iPods, iPhones) as the same software can be found on the mac (ie, Address Book, Mail, Safari) which makes syncing much easier. I'd rather have an aluminum case than pay a lot of money for something that feels like it's going to break.

This isn't entirely correct.

I'm sure many mac users here just use their macs for basic things like reading emails and browsing the web. Maybe even making a couple of movies or something.

We have 5 macs here at the studio (intels, macbook pro, and G5s) and they are far from stable and problem free. We REALLY put these things to the test and this is when the problems arise. I can't begin to count how many times these things have given us kernel panics while doing normal things like using photoshop. These computers are stock and are always completely updated and using updated programs. I have never ever had a blue screen of death on any of my windows XP home built machines (four at home) since XP was released and those are put to the test as well.

Programs crash alot. One of the macs here just freezes for no reason every now and then if it's just sitting there. For no reason, they can start running slow and need a reboot. We have them networked here and usually it works nicely but sometimes, randomly, we can't connect to one of them. There's so many other things too.

There's just a lot of little problems that end up pissing me off that I don't have at home. I'm not some anti-mac guy, it's just I hate it when people think macs are this all mighty machine that never has issues.

Although, I do agree that it's harder for non computer savvy people to mess up a mac. :)

[Mech]

You must have bad luck. I've never had any problems. I use CS 3 right now, no problems so far. Never had any problems with CS 2.

What kind of software is crashing?

I will say that since they started making them with intel chips, problems have increased. Still, I see more problems on my PC at work in a week, than I've ever had with my mac(s).

[shadedream]

This thread is STILL going?

Originally Posted by firmhonda

...but I'm more than willing to learn any kind of OS/software. I actually have loved using fedora, and wouldn't mind trying out a few different flavors of linux.

Go get ubuntu. Its nice :)

[shadedream]

Originally Posted by FunkPnut

until one company released an quad core, Macbook Pro is dual core

Op yes, thanks for the correction. Too many cores on the brain

[Cybergypsy]

mac all the way.....

[Cybergypsy]

Originally Posted by spook4thecia

Argh...

Not that I'm one to defend the MBA to the death, but here is something I posted on another forum while discussing Steve's keynote (and warding off the Mac haters I might add):

"True true but again I think with movies becoming digital, music becoming digital, and wireless backup, the only things left that you really need is installation disc's which is handled by the slave software... but I can see when your off on the road and you need an op drive in a pinch it could be a PITA."

Apple's concept is that your music comes from iTunes, your movies from iTunes/Apple TV, wireless back up from time machine or a USB drive...

Now for many people this isn't the case they still watch DVD's in their laptop's, they still want an optical drive....but there IS a market for this device. Even at it's price...which yes, I agree, is pretty damn high..there is still a market for it. There may be other comps out there with better specs, but it isn't the same design-which some people find absolutely beautiful, and they aren't running OSX -which some people LOVE. And brand mark-ups are suddenly a problem now? Abercrombie and Fitch jeans are $90. Wrangler jeans are $10. Bet the wranglers are more functional/last longer. Doesn't stop people from buying A&F.

The Air is amazing I have 2, and love them to death, I dont miss anything :)

[Spud387]

All this hate hurts the brain

Being a hardware support specialist I make my living working with PCs so that is obviously what I use. In my house I have this networked:

Custom built Core2Duo 2.4GHz machine on Vista Home Premium
HP Core2Duo 1.7GHz laptop (thats right i still call it a laptop ) on Vista Home Premium
IBM 3.0GHz Pentium desktop on XP Pro
Custom built Athlon XP 1.4GHz on XP Home
Custom built Sempron 1.4GHz on XP Home
Apple 17" 1.8GHz on OSX Tiger
Dell PIII 550MHz on Fedora 7
Dell PIII 500MHz on Fedora 7

All networked and living happily ever after. I prefer PCs and they are my interest so I don't touch the MAC unless my Dad needs something configured. I learned that MAC elitists cannot be convinced to realize any flaws in "their" company or that there are up sides to PCs. I stick to what I like. Also, to those Vista haters out there. I have been running 2 Vista machines since March 07 and June 07; no blue screen of death and every program I ran on my XP IBM machine have run without issue on my Vista machines. Vista wasn't ground breaking, but I have had no errors with it like so many people claim to have.

To each their own. Can't we all just get along? My home network has.

[wing_gundam]

My two reasons would be:

1) Almost all people I've known who have used a macbook in the past 10 years have had to replace the freaking mother board at least once!

2) As the site suggests, the heat factor - my mom who'se owned 5 of those many macbooks I've known always had to use a thick mat on her lap or she'd get burned by the book

[spook4thecia]

Originally Posted by drnknbndr

My concrusions:
Mac = notebook with training wheels.
PC = notebook with 55mm twin turbos.

Jea?

Not really, more like this.

Mac = notebook that is quick, reliable, and always fun to drive with no problems.
PC = notebook that can have twin turbo V8 cranking out insane #'s that will more often then not become a headache on a regular basis.

Kinda like Honda vs. Ford.

Yeah a a 'Stang might be fast as hell and better for specific applications (like dragging)....but for all around experience (reliability, no hassles, every day enjoyability, and consistency) give me the Honda.

[Spud387]

Originally Posted by spook4thecia

Not really, more like this.

Mac = notebook that is quick, reliable, and always fun to drive with no problems.
PC = notebook that can have twin turbo V8 cranking out insane #'s that will more often then not become a headache on a regular basis.

Kinda like Honda vs. Ford.

Yeah a a 'Stang might be fast as hell and better for specific applications (like dragging)....but for all around experience (reliability, no hassles, every day enjoyability, and consistency) give me the Honda.

Yes cause you know there has never been a problem with a mac notebook before

Mac aren't infaluable and guess what, neither are PCs. Also, of course if you buy the $600 Acer instead of the $2000 Apple you are most likely going to have more issues.

[datbacker59]

my dad has the mac and thers not much downloaded onto it and it doesnt really seem that much different than me except it doesnt have windows

[shadedream]

Originally Posted by wing_gundam

My two reasons would be:

1) Almost all people I've known who have used a macbook in the past 10 years have had to replace the freaking mother board at least once!

Interesting, considering the Macbook has only been out for about 2 years I manage about 600 of them and only about two logic board failures in the bunch (and I'd bet both could probably be attributed to abuse... should've seen the scuffs and how dirty they were...). Battery problems is a different story... battery manufacturers need to figure their crap out lately...

Originally Posted by wing_gundam

2) As the site suggests, the heat factor - my mom who'se owned 5 of those many macbooks I've known always had to use a thick mat on her lap or she'd get burned by the book

Yeah... thats pretty much ANY notebook computer. Thats why they call them notebooks and not laptops. They aren't designed to be used on your lap. They're designed to function with a solid surface below them to provide air flow. My wife roasted her old dell that way (she used to set it on her bed and lap). Guess where the intake fan was? directly in the center of the bottom of the machine.

A computer's a computer. Most of the hardware is identical, and just as likely to fail regardless of manufacturer. A lot of those failures are the fault of the user (though manufacturers cover them anyway as long as its not obvious abuse, dont we wish auto manufacturer's were this trusting?).

Mac Fanboys cant admit their OS/Hardware has any negative points.
PC Fanboys cant admin that anyone else's OS/Hardware has any positive points.

I'm just waiting for the "Macs suck because they dont have any games!" and "PC's suck because they bluescreen every 5 seconds!" arguements to come out...

[Demisedgabe]

macs are just overpriced pieces of crap

[Demisedgabe]

Originally Posted by spook4thecia

Not really, more like this.

Mac = notebook that is quick, reliable, and always fun to drive with no problems.
PC = notebook that can have twin turbo V8 cranking out insane #'s that will more often then not become a headache on a regular basis.

Kinda like Honda vs. Ford.

Yeah a a 'Stang might be fast as hell and better for specific applications (like dragging)....but for all around experience (reliability, no hassles, every day enjoyability, and consistency) give me the Honda.

f*ck yo life

[Demisedgabe]

[atruhondagrl]

Okay you PC obsessed people. Got a question for you because a friend of mine is having a hell of a time logging onto the site right now.


She logs in, it says "thank you for logging in..." and then when she tries to post, it tells her she needs to log in. She's at home, running the most recent IE (7 I think?) and didn't have this problem until a half hour ago.

I've only seen this happen on government computers because of security issues. I've never experienced it on either of my Macs. But that's not the point, the point is, since you are all so well versed in PC, whats the problem?