5 reasons to ditch the Mac and return to PCs

[ebdiam]

I gave up my gaming windows desktop to buy a macbook pro recently mainly because most games I was playing can be found on the 360 or ps3.
Also I was tired at looking at the fugly windows interface; dealing with all the issues and bugs with vista is a pain too.
So the next logical choice was mac for me atleast. So far its smooth sailing with my penryn mbp, it really does not produce much heat at all unless I am gaming.
I don't think I can ever go back to windows since I had a taste of the apple !

[Izzy]

I liken Mac users to the Gatorade side, while I'm Adam Sandler:
YouTube - The Waterboy - Water Sucks

[quackattack88]

After a pc user for many years I decided I would like to switch to a macbook. I was a few seconds from clicking that buy it button for the macbook, instead I went to Dell and checked out their xps laptoop. The next thing I knew was I purchased the xps notebook 1330. IMO it is by far the superior notebook.

[Special Ringpop]

I really can't complain about my new MacBook. Other than that the case scratches easier than our car's paint, and the white gets dirty easily, I think it is a great computer, and I've been (and still am) a PC user my whole life. The only reason life on a Mac is so hard is because most users are PC users, and not all programs are backwards compadable. Almost everything in that list of why Mac's are bad and why PC's rule are results of that. Because most users use PCs, it makes compadibility difficult on a Mac.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by quackattack88

After a pc user for many years I decided I would like to switch to a macbook. I was a few seconds from clicking that buy it button for the macbook, instead I went to Dell and checked out their xps laptoop. The next thing I knew was I purchased the xps notebook 1330. IMO it is by far the superior notebook.

I love my XPS m1330 too.

[FunkPnut]

Its a Windows world, so the majority of people are going to be the most comfortable with a PC.

PC's are the best for work environments because of the way Microsoft integrates their products and other companies conform to that standard.

Macs are great for audio, video, and digital imaging (basically anything that needs to be color accurate). I'm sure most will agree.

I rock an Intel mac w/Windows via VMWare and for me, there is no reason to buy a PC unless its for gaming at this point, but I have an Xbox 360 for that.

[spook4thecia]

Could dive into a long winded post about why IMO, for me, Macs are the better choice- but frankly, I don't feel like it and I don't think it will accomplish anything.

I will just say the following.

I have been a PC user my entire life and was, at one point, what one might call a "Mac hater." When I finally got off my high horse and started listening to grown up tech pundits, I started to consider a Mac as my next computer. I bought my black MacBook...oh I dunno...about 6 months ago and now couldn't be happier.

Since I became a switcher, I have come across not a single issue put forth by the OP's link. Might come as a shock, but not everyone deals with windows-only-based-program data. The only thing I do deal with is Word documents and PowerPoints-- .doc's and . ppt's open fine for me in MS Office for Mac- and would work just as fine in some cases better in Pages or Keynote.

And I was thinking about this the other day.....

I find the PC/Mac dynamic a lot like the domestic/import guy dynamic-- No matter how you tell the domestic guy that you can appreciate a nice domestic, but maybe he should just try a Japanese car because of better reliability, comparative build quality, fuel efficiency--the great car owning experience.... They still just say "Silly ricer. Won't catch me driving one of them there Jap-mobiles"

[funke]

the entire world makes pc's and only apple makes the mac. There is no way apple can compete alone. Hence, switching to Intel and leaving the company to what they are good at - advertising.

PC's are cheaper and provide way more options.

As far as software\OS that a different ball of wax. U can buy a pc and run linux if you don't like microsoft.

[volvo9]

Oh yeah, and apple uses too much white, I hate white.

[shadedream]

Originally Posted by funke

the entire world makes pc's and only apple makes the mac. There is no way apple can compete alone. Hence, switching to Intel and leaving the company to what they are good at - advertising.

PC's are cheaper and provide way more options.

As far as software\OS that a different ball of wax. U can buy a pc and run linux if you don't like microsoft.

Personally, I say use what gets the job done. Be it Mac OS X, Windows or a UNIX variant.

Apple very specifically keeps their hardware variety limited for device support and stability, and it shows. The intel switch had nothing to do with the window's PC world, and a lot more to do with the fact that Moto/IBM were not meeting their projections on PPC processor development and performance was slowing on new chips. Intel finally made up for the mistake that was the P4 line with the Core series chips, and unlike AMD, has the capacity to supply Apple's demand for chips in spikes.

PC's still have more hardware options available as far as compontents, but thats a gift and a curse. A wider array of components means more drivers and more problems supporting everything. But it gives you more options. Really the only place I see Apple suffering component wise these days is graphics chipsets on anything but the Mac Pro.

Apple's machines tend to cost a little more than cheap generic PCs, but there's also a lot more engineering going into the Mac hardware (I doubt people that argue this have ever looked inside many of the modern Macs) and Apple most always uses superior components than cheap PC makers.

This is also evident in PCWorld noting that the Macbook Pro was THE fastest Vista notebook computer until december this past year when someone released a quad-core notebook (MBP is dual core).

The whole OS thing is a moot point. Macs can just as easily run Windows (XP and Vista) and Linux/UNIX as any PC can. My machine at home dualboots OS X 10.5 and Vista as well as running XP in an open source VM to allow me to run anything I need to besides games without rebooting. The only exception in the OS situation is PC's not being able to run OS X (not completely anyway, there have been hacks, but you run into that whole lack of drivers for every manufacturer's device thing).

Like I said before, I tell people to use what they like and what gets the job done. I run Mac OS X, XP, Vista, and Linux on my personal machines. Which do I prefer? Mac OS X, but thats just me Just clearing up a little misinformation.

[FunkPnut]

Originally Posted by shadedream

Apple's machines tend to cost a little more than cheap generic PCs, but there's also a lot more engineering going into the Mac hardware (I doubt people that argue this have ever looked inside many of the modern Macs) and Apple most always uses superior components than cheap PC makers.

I totally agree. Pro series hardware is pretty sick.

Crack open a Mac Pro and tell me that is not engineered well.

They just need more graphics card options.

[FijiDeez]

Worth the click:

One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't...

[GeezerSi]

I'm a design engineer. I use pc's. Macs do not fit in my life. Period. So I wish Mac users would stop trying to put down pc's. They're wasting their breath on me.

[kobel4k3r5]

im a long time pc user just switched to macs. i personally dont know why many people say macs are better. they are basically the same thing. all things mac runs a pc can run natively or most things. macs arent any more special or better than pc period. all these new features in leopard are found in older Windows version such as time machine (shadow copy in windows server 2000), or spotlight (google desktop or windows live search), or even mac spaces (found in linux OS years ago). nothing special about the macs. for apple guys to call this a completely new OS is BS. it's the same thing with a few updates over tiger. it's still OS X, just 0.0.1 version higher. big whoop! you're paying a bill for a very large OS update.

[evil one]

i love my mac i have a g5 tower with two monitors and its great i cant stand to use a pc now.

[mynameis]

I am just waiting for Dell to come out with an XPS M1530 with an LED bac display then I am going to pretty much retire my MBP to sitting by my couch. I just keep having weird issues pop up with every patch. I have display issue related to the X1600 chipset that makes it so I can't run Windows and Apple denies the problem even though there is a huge thread on their support forums of people with the exact same issue.

[mynameis]

Forgot to mention, I really like Zune so I am looking forward to switching back to that so I can get my monthly music subscription going again.

[xheartcore_boyx]

I got my Mac before like 8 months ...

its ease and fun to use is a BIG turn on ..

But,most devices cant be installed on it,you will be limited to ipods,most banking and college sites dont work with safari nor firefox,no "good" way to write c++ programs for a college student,using the webcam on msn or yahoo deadly sucks.

Moving between xp on bootcamp and OS X isnt practical in anyway...VMware/Parallels gets your battery flatted pretty easily ..

i dont know .. im really considering selling my 3k worth Macbook pro..and get myself an HP with XP installed ...

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by CNUco2007

The OS is easier to use and when it comes to things such as networking and sharing files around the house, OS X is hands down much better. Macs can share with PC's using SAMBA, UNIX using NFS, and Macs using their own protocols. With a PC, all you can connect to are other PC's :P

I very strongly disagree here. There's a reason why Windows and Linux are basically the only 2 os' used for running networks. Windows has been fine tuning the network capabilities of its os for a good amount of time now (since windows NT), and now its networking capabilities are tied into all of its operating systems. As a matter of fact, quite a few small businesses run xp for networking while larger businesses usually run Windows Server 2003.

I'm in school right now for Computer Networking Systems and the farthest that we go in discussing apples networking capabilitiese are reviewing the protocols that apples use, mainly because as far as professional networking goes mac is the equivilant of zip drives.

Originally Posted by CNUco2007

Fact is, I really have nothing against windows (except for Vista). I use Windows just as much as i use OS X. I even dual boot with XP. I just hate newbs who think they know what they are talking about when they don't even really know how to use both OS's

To be honest, I really have nothing against macs.. Except the company behind macs, the outrageous prices that are double what the machines are worth, and 90% of the people that buy a mac because they've bought into the hype surrounding them and ignorantly defend them/talk down every other operating system on the planet just because they saw a commercial where the hip kid is the mac.

Originally Posted by CNUco2007

On another note, I hate Vista. Despite being very knowledgable with XP, I was having the hardest time trying to get my buddy's Vista machine on their wireless networking using a 64bit WEP key... Omg, I just wanted it to stop trying to do itself and let me do it manually... Took me forever to figure that out. Vista is less intuitive than XP What a lame OS... I'll stick with XP for my games :P

I have the exact same problem man.. Vista is such a royal PITA. When I set up my home network (2 xp desktops, 2 xp laptops, a vista laptop, and a printer for all) I couldn't believe how much of a pita vista was. I thought it was supposed to be better than xp. I mean, that's the only reason to update, right? I got everything xp connected in about 20 minutes, and it took an extra 30 just for the vista laptop. I really don't like vista.

Originally Posted by thedamaja

You PC guys crack me up. I never understood why so many are baffled by the Mac. Maybe it just makes to much sense.

It really does make a lot of sense to pay for an operating system that is based off of one that can be downloaded for free at any point in time.

Originally Posted by ebdiam

Also I was tired at looking at the fugly windows interface; dealing with all the issues and bugs with vista is a pain too.
So the next logical choice was mac for me atleast. So far its smooth sailing with my penryn mbp, it really does not produce much heat at all unless I am gaming.
I don't think I can ever go back to windows since I had a taste of the apple !

That's the one thing that I love about mac os', the interface is beautiful. As for vista, well.. I already covered that, lol.

I'm getting ready to ditch xp on one of my desktops for Fedora. I've used fedora a few times and have really enjoyed it. As far as compatability I'm just going to run a windows emulator.

Originally Posted by quackattack88

After a pc user for many years I decided I would like to switch to a macbook. I was a few seconds from clicking that buy it button for the macbook, instead I went to Dell and checked out their xps laptoop. The next thing I knew was I purchased the xps notebook 1330. IMO it is by far the superior notebook.

Cheap dells suck, expensive dells are great. I'm on a latitude d350 right now and I love it... but I would ditch it for an xps any day of the freakin week. Alienware FTW!

Originally Posted by FunkPnut

Macs are great for audio, video, and digital imaging (basically anything that needs to be color accurate). I'm sure most will agree.

Forgive me for being blunt, but if you're in any sort of graphic arts and you're on a windows.. you're retarded. I LOVE (older) macs for the video/picture editing that they have, but I'm not into that so windows/linux is perfect for me.

Originally Posted by funke

the entire world makes pc's and only apple makes the mac. There is no way apple can compete alone. Hence, switching to Intel and leaving the company to what they are good at - advertising.

PC's are cheaper and provide way more options.

As far as software\OS that a different ball of wax. U can buy a pc and run linux if you don't like microsoft.

Mac fans/Microsoft haters crack me up because of this.. Mac wouldn't even exist today (and windows wouldn't pull half the profit that it does) if it weren't for Microsoft. Bill Gates owns what.. 30% of Apple? He bought that much stake in the company to keep it floating when they were about to file for bankruptcy because the trend hadn't caught on yet. If Apple had gone under that would have put Microsoft in a monopoly, which means that the government would have tightly regulated its income and its productivity as a company. So everytime those Microsoft haters go out of their way to buy nothing but Macs it doesn't bother Bill Gates at all.. you're still pumping money into his pocket. One of the best businessmen ever. He might be a thief, but so is Steve Jobs so I guess they're two peas in the same pod.

Originally Posted by kobel4k3r5

im a long time pc user just switched to macs. i personally dont know why many people say macs are better. they are basically the same thing. all things mac runs a pc can run natively or most things. macs arent any more special or better than pc period. all these new features in leopard are found in older Windows version such as time machine (shadow copy in windows server 2000), or spotlight (google desktop or windows live search), or even mac spaces (found in linux OS years ago). nothing special about the macs.

Great post! This is why I have a problem with the insane amount of money that apple charges for its pc's/laptops. Don't even get me started on the Macbook Air.. Biggest rip off in laptop history IMO.

[spook4thecia]

Originally Posted by xheartcore_boyx

I got my Mac before like 8 months ...

its ease and fun to use is a BIG turn on ..

But,most devices cant be installed on it,you will be limited to ipods,most banking and college sites dont work with safari nor firefox,no "good" way to write c++ programs for a college student,using the webcam on msn or yahoo deadly sucks.

Moving between xp on bootcamp and OS X isnt practical in anyway...VMware/Parallels gets your battery flatted pretty easily ..

i dont know .. im really considering selling my 3k worth Macbook pro..and get myself an HP with XP installed ...

What are you talking about!? I have yet to come across any website that "doesn't work" in any way on either Safari or Firefox, including my college site and Chase Bank's site. That statement was simply either very disingenuous or you found some weird one in a million site. I don't use MSN so I can't speak on that, but I used Yahoo Live chat the other day for the first time- It started instantly with no issues throughout and at the time I remember imagining the trouble that I might have had to go through if I was using a PC.