5 reasons to ditch the Mac and return to PCs

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

My sister got me started. She's a graphic designer and prophotographer so you can only imagine what she works with. Then I got the macbook in '06, got my IMac this past christmas and I plan on trading this thing up for a Macpro this fall. We're trying to convert my mother and my dad wants one, he's just too cheap. lol. They are computer newb friendly.

I recently helped my parents migrate over to an iMac. Not my cup of tea, but I have to admit the are noob friendly.

[e60.deluxe]

tbqh, im a Wintel user and have been for a long long long time, and dont ever plan on switching, BUT, that site doesnt really make many good points.

[zergling]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

They are computer newb friendly.

Except for weirdos like me. I can't last 5 minutes trying to learn and use a Mac without wanting to throw it away. I seriously and honestly tried to "learn" (more like trying to understand why a lot of ppl love them) Mac several times, and each time always ends up with the laptop/monitor on my hands above my head, ready to smash it to the ground.

Same goes with trying to use iTunes......it took me a day to be comfortable with the iPod nano, though I still prefer my old school Rio Carbon over it. I did, however, liked the iPhone....except for the texting piece (which makes me curse everytime) and the pricetag, but I was quite impressed with the music quality and its capability when showing high resolution pics.

If the iTV eventually becomes capable of showing full 1080p and have subtitles (yes, I need subtitles), I'd definitely check it out. If (or when?) the iPhone 2 comes out, I'll check it as well.

...but I still don't see me taking a Mac over a PC anytime in the future.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by CNUco2007

btw, OS X is also much better for the visually impaired. My mom is Legally Blind but thanks to some of the stuff built into OS X is able to use her Mac Mini. She's kind of a noob when it comes to computers, but she can get around and check her email and stuff haha Only thing that drives me nuts is when the computer reads everything on the screen to her... omg, it's so annoying lol

i hate when people say stuff like this. they find a cool feature on Macs, that they never found on windows and they assume ZOMG macs are so cool. they never even bother to check up whether windows has it.

go to the damn control panel, click on a picture of a wheelchair that says "accessibility's options" and you can find a whole slew of aids for people with disabilities.

its been there since as long as i can remember...Win 95 atleast.

[atruhondagrl]

You lack patience young one. Lol. I was like that the first few times, than one day I got curious and figured it out in 10 minutes.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

They are computer newb friendly.

they are only noob friendly if you want to do very basic things. yes they can be noob friendly.

in a mac as soon as you try to do anything more advanced than the average person would want, and sometimes not more advanced, they become VERY difficult and counter intuitive.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

You lack patience young one. Lol. I was like that the first few times, than one day I got curious and figured it out in 10 minutes.

but somehow that patience cant be applied to a PC, right? like with the wheelchair icon with the disability options?

[atruhondagrl]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

they are only noob friendly if you want to do very basic things. yes they can be noob friendly.

in a mac as soon as you try to do anything more advanced than the average person would want, and sometimes not more advanced, they become VERY difficult and counter intuitive.

I can work basic administrative functions on XP since I had to work on 21 computers a week over in kuwait. I will admit that if you're used to windows, doing anything more than basic functions on a Mac can be a PITA. But really, I'm sure there's mac techs (all 10 of them lol) that feel the same about windows. I think it's just a case of what youre used to.

[jackolee]

I have both.... more of a pc person since ive been using pc longer.

but i use the mac for photoshops writing articles and jus tschool period.

pc for gaming if im bored, downloading, and a few other things

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by atruhondagrl

I can work basic administrative functions on XP since I had to work on 21 computers a week over in kuwait. I will admit that if you're used to windows, doing anything more than basic functions on a Mac can be a PITA. But really, I'm sure there's mac techs (all 10 of them lol) that feel the same about windows. I think it's just a case of what youre used to.

no, its not "what your used to"

can you explain to me how, you can go to a menu to log on to a network, but if you try to go to that same menu, you cannot log off, you have to drag the icon of the network to the trash can, to log off, makes any rational sense?

windows keeps it simple. even if you dont know the run commands, or shortcuts. practically anything you do, can be undone by the same process. apple cant even get the same process right for turning the computer off. press the power button = nothing! extra menu to use.

dont even get me started on iTunes vs. windows media player. iTunes is availible for PC, and ive had ALOT of time to play around with it, because my mom has an iPod and i wanted to teach her. sure when your just letting iTunes do everything, its super easy. as soon as you start to want to make dynamic, custom playlists all the time, or not do a sync but a manual song copy, its just a major headache.

[CNUco2007]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

i hate when people say stuff like this. they find a cool feature on Macs, that they never found on windows and they assume ZOMG macs are so cool. they never even bother to check up whether windows has it.

go to the damn control panel, click on a picture of a wheelchair that says "accessibility's options" and you can find a whole slew of aids for people with disabilities.

its been there since as long as i can remember...Win 95 atleast.

Did I say Windows did not have this feature? No... I can assure you I know it's there. My point was that Apple's implementation is much better. Are you blind (in the literal sense)? Can you accurately compare the two? No! So shut the hell up kid. My mom has used both and Apple's implementation/feature set for the visually impaired actually made using the computer viable.

You want to know what I hate? Fanboys... You are obiously a windows fanboy. Have you even used any OS's other than Windows? Chances are I've used more OS's than you can even name. Trust me, when it comes to your basic computer user who chats, checks email, and cruises the net, OS X wins hands down. The worst I've messed with would have to be Open VMS lol I found that OS confusing as hell.

[atruhondagrl]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

no, its not "what your used to"

can you explain to me how, you can go to a menu to log on to a network, but if you try to go to that same menu, you cannot log off, you have to drag the icon of the network to the trash can, to log off, makes any rational sense?

Yes it is, because I have absolutely no idea what the hell your talking about since I've never had to do that. Did you use OS9 or something? Because I've had Tiger and Leopard that that is not how they work.

[CNUco2007]

Okay, you obviously are talking about something you know nothing about... Let me clarify for you:

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

no, its not "what your used to"

can you explain to me how, you can go to a menu to log on to a network, but if you try to go to that same menu, you cannot log off, you have to drag the icon of the network to the trash can, to log off, makes any rational sense?

I'm not sure if you are talking about connecting to a network drive or an actual network. I'll explain BOTH for your reading pleasure To connect to a network drive, you select the appropriate menu at the top of the finder and click "Connect To...". Enter drive location and it mounts it. You'll see it on your desktop. Yes, you can drag it to the Eject Symbol (Trash) to eject it, or right click it to eject it.

How does it work in windows? Lets see, you right click "My Computer", select "Connect to Network Drive" or something like that, enter the info, and BAM, it's mounted in your My Computer. How do you remove it? Oh yea! You right click it and select disconnect. Wow, that sounds alot like OS X!! Hooray!

Now if you were referring to connecting to a Local Area Network (LAN), it pretty much does it on its own as does XP. Wireless networks and be connected and disconnected from the icon in the top right corner. XP is the same way with their icon in the lower right.

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

windows keeps it simple. even if you dont know the run commands, or shortcuts. practically anything you do, can be undone by the same process. apple cant even get the same process right for turning the computer off. press the power button = nothing! extra menu to use.

Oh lord, dude... the power button will do what it is set to do in the System Preferences. Mine is set to put the computer to sleep because my computer is never shut down. This is something that can't always be done in Windows and that is not a limitation of the OS but a limitation of the hardware. You can always Hibernate because it just saves what is in Memory to the hard drive and loads it again when it is booted up. But true sleeping is only supported by certain hardware. A buddy of mine got it working on a Ubuntu installation of his. Reason all apples support it is because apple build the OS AND the hardware.

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

dont even get me started on iTunes vs. windows media player. iTunes is availible for PC, and ive had ALOT of time to play around with it, because my mom has an iPod and i wanted to teach her. sure when your just letting iTunes do everything, its super easy. as soon as you start to want to make dynamic, custom playlists all the time, or not do a sync but a manual song copy, its just a major headache.

Can't argue with that. I love iTunes because I am willing to let it do the organizing and such but yea if you want to organize files manually or whatever, it's just not possible. Same goes for iPhoto. If you go in and manually sort iPhotos library from the file system, iPhoto will get pissed off haha. It's a diff way of thinking.

Fact is, I really have nothing against windows (except for Vista). I use Windows just as much as i use OS X. I even dual boot with XP. I just hate newbs who think they know what they are talking about when they don't even really know how to use both OS's

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On another note, I hate Vista. Despite being very knowledgable with XP, I was having the hardest time trying to get my buddy's Vista machine on their wireless networking using a 64bit WEP key... Omg, I just wanted it to stop trying to do itself and let me do it manually... Took me forever to figure that out. Vista is less intuitive than XP What a lame OS... I'll stick with XP for my games :P

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As can be seen in this thread though, the Mac vs PC battle will go on forever... Why can't we all just get along? Both OS's have their strong points. Gaming on OS X just isn't all that great :P

[Yodums]

That site just raises some really poor points. Not being able to use the MacBook on your lap? There's a reason why companes stopped calling them laptops. They weren't intended to be put on your lap - notebooks and MacBooks.

[volvo9]

Main reason why I don't like Mac's is the owners, lots of them think their sh*t is awesome and try to shove their overpriced Mac down everybodys throats.

I love my PC because I can go to a store or download site and anything I download works for it. No need to search all day for software that's compatible with my computer. I've downloaded a lot of stuff and never once did I go "AHH, crap! This is for a Mac, it won't work on my PC".

Other than that, I don't care, use what you like. I'm not going to try to sell my PC to you, so don't try to sell me a Mac.

[Izzy]

I generally don't like Macs (and vehemently so) because of the price they want for the things. I will admit to liking the iPhone more than I should though.

I also don't like the basic layout of the Mac, being so used to PC. But, it's not something that bothers me so much. I just make my hate for Mac a joke to my friends. Which they've all started reciprocating.

HOWEVER, I think my dislike for Macs (the owners are USUALLY okay, that I know) bit me in the ass. My business textbook this semester has a very large "case study" on Apple.

EDIT: I should try out OS X on my Dell though.

[thedamaja]

You PC guys crack me up. I never understood why so many are baffled by the Mac. Maybe it just makes to much sense.

Personally I used Macs for much longer than a PC but, have no problem operating either.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by thedamaja

You PC guys crack me up. I never understood why so many are baffled by the Mac. Maybe it just makes to much sense.

Personally I used Macs for much longer than a PC but, have no problem operating either.

It's not like none of us can use it. I just don't like it.

[zergling]

[RedLineSi]

I like Windows better.