LCD, Plasma or DLP (Or tube)?

[Duce2k]

Lcd Ftw

[cmv]

I have a 50" plasma (Dell), 48" rear projection (JVC), & a 32" LCD (Akai). They all have excellent HD pictures. The plasma does blacks a little better. The projection looks like crap with a standard TV signal.

The only things I don't like about the plasma is the heat it puts off & a little burn-in from the black bars on the sides from watching non-HD TV shows a lot (which make that area just a touch lighter when watching something in full screen). The projection is a POS. I bought it when HD TVs first came out & it broke exactly one week after the warranty was up.

If I had to do it over again, I'd probably just go with LCD. The LCD TV has no burn-in issues & we watch the same type stuff on it. The plasma's picture is overall a bit better on HD channels & the LCD's is a bit better for regular TV - but that might just be my perception from the different screen sizes.

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

LED DLPs have longer lifetime than LCD now. well the same as LED LCDs.

hmm perhaps it was the older technology then. I just remember hearing that dlp's lifetime isn't nearly as long as the others.

[ronin]

DLP's lifetime is only limited by the life of the bulb. Which usually runs 3000-4000 in economy mode. But the bulb can always be replaced. The LED bacing for the DLP and LCD are new technology that costs a hefty premium for the time being. However, the improved colors, darks, and instant startup give them a technology edge over fluorecent back lighting that is currently used in LCDs (and the bulbs in DLP).

[Izzy]

I'm personally using a Dell 2405FPW for my multi-purpose "monitor". Everything from typing this, to playing games. Works well, and it's still viewable, and I can keep it in my hutch.

[brthorner]

I have a 50" 1080p Samsung DLP HDTV that I paid about $1,700 for a year ago, and my father-in-law just bought a brand new $3,300 Sony Bravia XBR 50" LCD, and I'm very umimpressed with the Sony in comparisson...even if it was the same money. I would have liked the option to hang it on the wall, but then you are committed to that wall...based on all the holes you need to drill!

[RaskyR1]

If I had the money I would go plasma. I wanted to go BIG so I opted for a 62" DLP. I'm very happy with it; it has great color and excellent blacks. Room size was not an issue so a flat panel is not really needed. I've had it for 2 years now and will probably sell it if plasma prices continue to fall....but I paid $2k for my 62" DLP 2 years ago and I don't think you can touch a 60+ inch plasma for under $2500 and those sets are cheap and poor quality.

[emopains]

-LCD has the fastest response time(pixels change colors faster)
-DLP is the best for moving picture(sports, games, action) it uses mirrors and a spectrum to reflect light.
-Plasma is the brightest and has the capability of the highest contrast ratio( Whiter whites and darker shades of grey) However black will look green and it isn't recommended for pcs or games because of burn in(leaving the same image on will leave a perminant image in the screen) which isn't covered under any warranty. Also heat up like crazy and arn't designed to last more than 5 years

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by ronin

DLP's lifetime is only limited by the life of the bulb. Which usually runs 3000-4000 in economy mode. But the bulb can always be replaced. The LED bacing for the DLP and LCD are new technology that costs a hefty premium for the time being. However, the improved colors, darks, and instant startup give them a technology edge over fluorecent back lighting that is currently used in LCDs (and the bulbs in DLP).

i wouldnt say it costs a hefty premium.. the Samsung LED DLPs are cheaper than Toshiba and Mitusbishi DLPs...and they are maybe 100-200 more than a Sony SXRD. 1 bulb replacement covers the premium.

[07BlakBlak]

Originally Posted by emopains

-LCD has the fastest response time(pixels change colors faster)
-DLP is the best for moving picture(sports, games, action) it uses mirrors and a spectrum to reflect light.
-Plasma is the brightest and has the capability of the highest contrast ratio( Whiter whites and darker shades of grey) However black will look green and it isn't recommended for pcs or games because of burn in(leaving the same image on will leave a perminant image in the screen) which isn't covered under any warranty. Also heat up like crazy and arn't designed to last more than 5 years

I think you have gotten some VERY incorrect information.....

Plasma is not the brightest, LCD is. Plasma has the best color. On Plasmas the Black will not look green, it will be black. LCD has issues with Blacks....not Plasmas. Burn-in is not really an issue any longer on the modern plasmas. You really have to F up and leave something on for a while....plus not have your screen saver on. Plasmas last for a conservative 30,000 hours, so even if you bought the TV and turned it on and did not turn it off it would still last 3.42 years. At 8 hrs a day it would last...10.27 years.......at 4 hours a day which is realistic it would last over 20 years.......conservatively estimating 30,000 hours.

[07BlakBlak]

IMO Plasma is the way to go unless you are a HEAVY gamer or if there is alot of ambient light in the room. LCD is a great TV but the color is inaccurate alot of the time. LCD is much lighter though and is more durable if the TV is going to get knocked around. If you have kids....get an LCD. If they leave it on, bump it ect....you will still be ok. Otherwise the color of the Plasma is enough to warrant the choice.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by 07BlakBlak

IMO Plasma is the way to go unless you are a HEAVY gamer or if there is alot of ambient light in the room. LCD is a great TV but the color is inaccurate alot of the time. LCD is much lighter though and is more durable if the TV is going to get knocked around. If you have kids....get an LCD. If they leave it on, bump it ect....you will still be ok. Otherwise the color of the Plasma is enough to warrant the choice.

agreed. exept that they get expensive at larger tahn 50"
i would look at DLP at larger than 50" especially since Samsung DLPs dont have bulb issues.

[07BlakBlak]

I have seen a few DLP's in stores.....they dont really look that good other than right in front of it. Is that maybe just the overhead lighting in the stores? I was considering one when I started looking because of the price difference and that I dont need to hang it on a wall but I opted for the Plasma instead.

[RaskyR1]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

agreed. exept that they get expensive at larger tahn 50"
i would look at DLP at larger than 50" especially since Samsung DLPs dont have bulb issues.

Sumsung DLP's look very good no doubt but when it came down to buying my 62" Toshiba the 60" Samsung was $2k more. Side by side the colors and blacks were better on the Toshiba but the sharpness was better by far on the Samsung. The bulb replacment on my set is only about $125 my cost so while I may have liked the Samsung better over all it wasn't 2 grand better for a smaller TV.

(I got a good deal on the Toshiba )

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by RaskyR1

Sumsung DLP's look very good no doubt but when it came down to buying my 62" Toshiba the 60" Samsung was $2k more. Side by side the colors and blacks were better on the Toshiba but the sharpness was better by far on the Samsung. The bulb replacment on my set is only about $125 my cost so while I may have liked the Samsung better over all it wasn't 2 grand better for a smaller TV.

(I got a good deal on the Toshiba )

dude, i just bought the second to highest end Samsung 61incher for $1950 shipped...the one up model only adds bluetooth and some other useless thing, the picture quality is the same..was your toshiba free?

[Toxis]

Again, more wrong information being distributed across the internet by people who talk before researching. I'm surprised people don't start telling others that their civic has 7 rims/tires but if someone did say it, others would believe it!

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

LED DLPs have longer lifetime than LCD now. well the same as LED LCDs.

Yes, this is true. LED DLP's lifespan of 20k hours is way more than flat panel LCD's 60k hours. If you're talking rear projection LCD, it's the same as DLP as the bulb is 6-8k.

Originally Posted by ronin

DLP's lifetime is only limited by the life of the bulb.

Wow, what? You think the motors moving the mirrors is limitless? Ok, and plasma TV's leak gas.

Originally Posted by emopains

-LCD has the fastest response time(pixels change colors faster)
-DLP is the best for moving picture(sports, games, action) it uses mirrors and a spectrum to reflect light.
-Plasma is the brightest and has the capability of the highest contrast ratio( Whiter whites and darker shades of grey) However black will look green and it isn't recommended for pcs or games because of burn in(leaving the same image on will leave a perminant image in the screen) which isn't covered under any warranty. Also heat up like crazy and arn't designed to last more than 5 years

1. Plasma's response time is less than 2.5ms vs. 5-6ms on LCD's.
2. DLP is not better than plasma in terms of moving pictures but yes, they're one of the better ones. There's no spectrum, it's called a colorwheel. BIG difference. A spectrum is used in LCoS technology.
3. Plasma has one of the highest contrast ratios but the blacks are only green on cheap panels, not all of them. Clearly you only looked at the cheapest price ones and forgot to look around more...

Originally Posted by 07BlakBlak

Plasmas last for a conservative 30,000 hours, so even if you bought the TV and turned it on and did not turn it off it would still last 3.42 years. At 8 hrs a day it would last...10.27 years.......at 4 hours a day which is realistic it would last over 20 years.......conservatively estimating 30,000 hours.

Actually, most are 60k to half life meaning double the numbers you already posted and that will be when the panel is half at bright as it was the day it was bought.

[ronin]

The mirrors wear out. But you will be through a couple bulbs before the mirrors start to have issues. Hopefully.

[RaskyR1]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

dude, i just bought the second to highest end Samsung 61incher for $1950 shipped...the one up model only adds bluetooth and some other useless thing, the picture quality is the same..was your toshiba free?

I bought mine over 2 years ago....at that time the price I paid for my Toshiba was almost 2 grand less than BB price on the Samsung....Obviously DLP prices have dropped significantly over the past 2 years.

...and with 3 roommates my TV is on a LOT. In over 2 years I have not had a single problem with my TV and it still has the original bulb. For the money I paid and the size of screen I got I'm very happy with my purchase.

[emopains]

Originally Posted by Toxis

Again, more wrong information being distributed across the internet by people who talk before researching. I'm surprised people don't start telling others that their civic has 7 rims/tires but if someone did say it, others would believe it!

Yes, this is true. LED DLP's lifespan of 20k hours is way more than flat panel LCD's 60k hours. If you're talking rear projection LCD, it's the same as DLP as the bulb is 6-8k.

Wow, what? You think the motors moving the mirrors is limitless? Ok, and plasma TV's leak gas.

1. Plasma's response time is less than 2.5ms vs. 5-6ms on LCD's.
2. DLP is not better than plasma in terms of moving pictures but yes, they're one of the better ones. There's no spectrum, it's called a colorwheel. BIG difference. A spectrum is used in LCoS technology.
3. Plasma has one of the highest contrast ratios but the blacks are only green on cheap panels, not all of them. Clearly you only looked at the cheapest price ones and forgot to look around more...

Actually, most are 60k to half life meaning double the numbers you already posted and that will be when the panel is half at bright as it was the day it was bought.

agreed +1 rep

[emopains]

Originally Posted by 07BlakBlak

I think you have gotten some VERY incorrect information.....

Plasma is not the brightest, LCD is. Plasma has the best color. On Plasmas the Black will not look green, it will be black. LCD has issues with Blacks....not Plasmas. Burn-in is not really an issue any longer on the modern plasmas. You really have to F up and leave something on for a while....plus not have your screen saver on. Plasmas last for a conservative 30,000 hours, so even if you bought the TV and turned it on and did not turn it off it would still last 3.42 years. At 8 hrs a day it would last...10.27 years.......at 4 hours a day which is realistic it would last over 20 years.......conservatively estimating 30,000 hours.

Did he just say lcd is brighter than plasma?