iPhone? (Merged threads)

[Johnold]

I don't know what it's about LOL. All I know is that i'm not knocking the Iphone but I really don't think i'd spend that much for a cell phone. For the PS3 yes, but not a cell phone.

[Cybergypsy]

Originally Posted by Johnold

I don't know what it's about LOL. All I know is that i'm not knocking the Iphone but I really don't think i'd spend that much for a cell phone. For the PS3 yes, but not a cell phone.

I hardly ever use a cell(sits in my car) but this one is fun to play with :)

[HkyGrL2]

don't argue with cybergypsy...she's very passionate about the things she loves!

[marc-o-lishuz]

Originally Posted by HkyGrL2

don't argue with cybergypsy...she's very passionate about the things she loves!

x2

[marc-o-lishuz]

Originally Posted by trickyazn

exactly, sorry Marc for the wrong choice of words.

haha So I guess you meant to say that the iPhone uses GSM technology instead of CDMA. Gotcha.

[whtdvl]

i'd love to get one...its the whole price tag that deters me

[Cybergypsy]

Originally Posted by marc-o-lishuz

haha So I guess you meant to say that the iPhone uses GSM technology instead of CDMA. Gotcha.

Do you think i wrote that me????? No paste and copied from my Mac site.....you guys know i dont write more then a line or two :)

[Cybergypsy]

Still thinking about the 1 series BMW really want it

[HkyGrL2]

it reminds me of a boxy tercel. Do you have a link to what it really looks like(for the us). I think I like the overseas hatchback one.

[firmhonda]

Does anybody remember NeXT? The computer company that Steve Jobs founded after being fired from Apple that would've squashed apple, had he not been a greedy bastard and jacked up the price of everything they sold?

It's in his blood, He makes pretty things and sells them for twice as much as it's ugly competitors that actually have 100X the features.. but because it's pretty and shiney people enjoy having them.

Don't get me wrong, as far as digital art applications mac is the only way to go.. but that's as far as my support for that company goes.

BTW, big ups to cybergypsy for going gangster on this thread.. that's good stuff.

I have to reply to:

Originally Posted by cybergypsy

* Only Apple is in total control of it’s hardware and the OSX software that runs on it.

This is not a good thing.. This is nothing but another way that apple can reach deep into the pockets of people for simple things. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if they even charged for the updates, some of which (activating the video capability for example) have already been talked about how much to charge.

Steve Jobs is a crook. No, that isn't an opinion, it is fact. He's one of the richest people in America, and yet he's on the payroll for $1 a year pay. Why? How much tax do you have to pay yearly for $1 income?

Also, as far as saying that the iphone is "the greatest technology with the most potential on the planet today" is just absurd. Just because it has a cool display doesn't mean that it's redical and advanced, it just means that they put a pretty blue ribbon and an apple logo on a turd and charged out the ass for it.

All in all, if I were an apple fan I would be pissed right now. The company is doing nothing but making money off of these people all the while calling them idiots. To me it's almost as if Steve is saying "watch this, we're going to spend more money on commercials than developing this phone, and people are going to buy it like crazy! Forget the fact that is has 1/10 of the features that other phones in the price range have, we made the ipod so we're the shit and people will pay any amount for everything that we produce."

Another thing... The "portrait to landscape" technology is everything but new and exclusive to the iPhone, quite a few phones have had this capability before it, they just didn't use it as a selling point because they had actual features to talk about.

This would be the best phone on the market had apple not had anything to do with making it, because other companies would recognize the lack of features and price it at about 1/2 of what it is right now.

Hell, even G4 agrees with me on this stuff.. it's either underpowered or overpriced, depending on how you look at it. But, fanbois will be fanbois.


A serious note, a big ups to cybergypsy for being the first person to defend the iPhone (copy & pasted or not) and actually back it up with a decent arguement. Until now, people have just been defending spending more money for less features because they actually paid the insane price for a cell phone.

[siwelk07]

Originally Posted by Cybergypsy

Only Microsoft has a chance to catch Apple’s in the mobile operating system front but as history shows it will suffer from classic Microsoft bloat.

Actually, I would say that Apple is the one playing catch up in terms of mobile OS. Windows Mobile, Palm, and Symbian have a few years on Apple.

Originally Posted by Cybergypsy

* IPhone represents an evolution of the finest Digital music player in the world.

This is very true. The iPhone is the hands-down best iPod ever.

Originally Posted by Cybergypsy

...and Finally the last and greatest point ;

* Only Apple is in total control of it’s hardware and the OSX software that runs on it.

I wouldnt really call this great. The inability for 3rd party applications sort of limits the expandability of the device. With WM5 there are sooo many different apps you can install on your phone. With Apple controlling everything this will hamper development of potentially bada** new iPhone apps.

Originally Posted by Cybergypsy

And that is what makes iPhone the greatest technology with the most potential on the planet today.

a la Office Space "I'm gonna hafta go ahead and sorta...disagree with you there"

For an iPod, the iPhone was a nice step forward. A lovely display, sleek device and a darn good media device. As a phone though, it was a pretty mediocre attempt. The touchscreen is very nice, but that cant be the save-all for a phone with lackluster features and a huge price tag. I know its only version 1, but it was still pretty lame. I'm really hoping a version 2 will be a whole lot better, and im sure it will. But as far as Apples first attempt at a phone, i wouldnt call it the greatest technology with the most potential on the planet. Personally I'd save judgments like those for devices with a proven history.

[firmhonda]

^I knew there was a reason that I repped you. lol.

[siwelk07]

Originally Posted by firmhonda

Does anybody remember NeXT? The computer company that Steve Jobs founded after being fired from Apple that would've squashed apple, had he not been a greedy bastard and jacked up the price of everything they sold?

It's in his blood, He makes pretty things and sells them for twice as much as it's ugly competitors that actually have 100X the features.. but because it's pretty and shiney people enjoy having them.

Don't get me wrong, as far as digital art applications mac is the only way to go.. but that's as far as my support for that company goes.

BTW, big ups to cybergypsy for going gangster on this thread.. that's good stuff.

I have to reply to:


This is not a good thing.. This is nothing but another way that apple can reach deep into the pockets of people for simple things. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if they even charged for the updates, some of which (activating the video capability for example) have already been talked about how much to charge.

Steve Jobs is a crook. No, that isn't an opinion, it is fact. He's one of the richest people in America, and yet he's on the payroll for $1 a year pay. Why? How much tax do you have to pay yearly for $1 income?

Also, as far as saying that the iphone is "the greatest technology with the most potential on the planet today" is just absurd. Just because it has a cool display doesn't mean that it's redical and advanced, it just means that they put a pretty blue ribbon and an apple logo on a turd and charged out the ass for it.

All in all, if I were an apple fan I would be pissed right now. The company is doing nothing but making money off of these people all the while calling them idiots. To me it's almost as if Steve is saying "watch this, we're going to spend more money on commercials than developing this phone, and people are going to buy it like crazy! Forget the fact that is has 1/10 of the features that other phones in the price range have, we made the ipod so we're the shit and people will pay any amount for everything that we produce."

Another thing... The "portrait to landscape" technology is everything but new and exclusive to the iPhone, quite a few phones have had this capability before it, they just didn't use it as a selling point because they had actual features to talk about.

This would be the best phone on the market had apple not had anything to do with making it, because other companies would recognize the lack of features and price it at about 1/2 of what it is right now.

Hell, even G4 agrees with me on this stuff.. it's either underpowered or overpriced, depending on how you look at it. But, fanbois will be fanbois.


A serious note, a big ups to cybergypsy for being the first person to defend the iPhone (copy & pasted or not) and actually back it up with a decent arguement. Until now, people have just been defending spending more money for less features because they actually paid the insane price for a cell phone.

Rep'd

[siwelk07]

Steve Jobs was like the first caveman to discover fire. Once he showed the other cavepeople and saw the "Oooh" and "Aaah" look on their faces, he was like 'gotcha b****'



Apple has always been about the "Ooooooh Pretttttty"...unfortunately thats about all it takes for most people. ha

[marc-o-lishuz]

Originally Posted by siwelk07

Apple has always been about the "Ooooooh Pretttttty"...unfortunately thats about all it takes for most people. ha

I agree with you for Apple's "wow" factor, and yes - a lot of people will pay a lot of money just to listen to music with white earbuds just because it's the "in" thing to do/have.

But if Apple was all show and no go, they wouldn't be around the tech business for so long and create their own tech culture.







BTW - I'm a Windows user

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by marc-o-lishuz

I agree with you for Apple's "wow" factor, and yes - a lot of people will pay a lot of money just to listen to music with white earbuds just because it's the "in" thing to do/have.

But if Apple was all show and no go, they wouldn't be around the tech business for so long and create their own tech culture.

100% true. I'm not saying that Apple has always been a company that put took advantage of it's customers, I'm just saying it's ridiculous how much they are exploiting their fans now.

Hell, the internet was actually invented on a NeXT computer.. which Steve Jobs designed. You know, at least Steve Jobs originally ripped people off for a good reason.. he was saving as a young college student to go on a "spiritual journey" to india (I believe it was india).. I just think Apple would be a far better company if they started to price things competitively instead of throwing an apple logo on something and then pricing it @ 10X what it's worth (IMO).

Apple is an amazing company as far as aesthetics go, they've revolutionized the computer industry in that sense.. Not to mention pushing the envelope with graphics and processors so not only would your apple computer look good enough to display in the living room, it would also have a beautiful resolution that you could enjoy while working or just letting it sit idle. I have no problem giving respect where it is due (seeing as how Bill Gates started his career as a con man, and continues to practice business in a way that's seedy at best), I just don't think Apple is due any respect what-so-ever with the iPhone.

People should look at the iPhone as if it were.. I dunno.. a Nokia product rather than an apple. If it were made by any other company people would be calling this phone a piece of crap because of it's lack of features/price.. but because it's an all holy Apple product, it's the biggest advancement in technology since the iPod, or the iMac, or iLife, iWork, etc. etc..

To me, it's like paying the same amount for a pretty new Daewoo instead of getting a fully mugen'd out (w/nav) si sedan. Who would do that? I guess we're learning the answer to that question as the iPhone sells more and more.

[edit] I just repped cybergypsy, btw. I didn't think that I could rep her yet...

[marc-o-lishuz]

Originally Posted by firmhonda

People should look at the iPhone as if it were.. I dunno.. a Nokia product rather than an apple. If it were made by any other company people would be calling this phone a piece of crap because of it's lack of features/price.. but because it's an all holy Apple product, it's the biggest advancement in technology since the iPod, or the iMac, or iLife, iWork, etc. etc..

Actually, Nokia would never release something like this because they're far ahead of Apple in terms of mobile phone technology and connectivity.
I don't know - some Korean cell phones from Kyocera and Samsung or NTT DoCoMo (Japan) phones far surpass the iPhone in terms of function. Looks - I think only a few companies can challenge Apple (Bang and Olufsen is the first to come to mind).

[Cybergypsy]

Shhhhhhh you know Webby is Steve Jobs...

[firmhonda]

Okay, I just found out another big plus that the palm treo has over the apple iphone (I have to defend my purchase too, ya know ).. it's called the foleo.

Palm is releasing a laptop specifically designed for smartphones (especially the treo). It's like the razr of laptops, only it seems like it will actually be worth a damn.

http://www.palm.com/us/products/mobi...nce/index.html

That's just cool IMO, especially since when I return to school I will be using powerpoint, excel, etc. and I will be able to open/edit these documents from this little thing without having to carry around a full size laptop.

I think this is a wonderful idea and can't wait to get my hand on it.. it's perfect for what I use my phone for and is smaller/lighter than any laptop out right now.

for palm trying to advance the technology instead of just trying to advance themselves.

[marc-o-lishuz]

Originally Posted by firmhonda

Palm is releasing a laptop specifically designed for smartphones (especially the treo). It's like the razr of laptops, only it seems like it will actually be worth a damn.

http://www.palm.com/us/products/mobi...nce/index.html

Interesting product. But don't forget - Sony released the X505 about 3-4 years ago. It weighed only 3 lbs and was made of CF. Talk about the RAZR of laptops