Linux software equivalent to Windows software

[Shark Tek]

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/...top_Publishing

[RJJensen]

nice list...pretty soon ull be able to play games too...linux FTL

[Shark Tek]

http://www.transgaming.com/products/cedega/6.0/

No sir you dont have to wait you can now play many current windows games in linux even on MAC too.

[definingmoment]

Originally Posted by RJJensen

nice list...pretty soon ull be able to play games too...linux FTL

^loser

[babaki]

Originally Posted by Shark Tek

TransGaming Inc.

No sir you dont have to wait you can now play many current windows games in linux even on MAC too.

Stupid. the point of having linux to use to use FREE software.

[definingmoment]

Originally Posted by babaki

Stupid. the point of having linux to use to use FREE software.

Edited.

[babaki]

Originally Posted by definingmoment

^ no I believe the point is to have a good alternative to sucky microsoft products and better security, not to get stuff for free always

wrong.

[definingmoment]

Originally Posted by babaki

wrong.

^good defense, I'm sure that's the real reason since you obviously must have invented linux. Good job!

[babaki]

Originally Posted by definingmoment

^good defense, I'm sure that's the real reason since you obviously must have invented linux. Good job!

do some research. it helps.

[definingmoment]

Originally Posted by babaki

do some research. it helps.

I think you should take your own advice, pal

But hey, who am I to argue with the man who designed linux......lol

[babaki]

Originally Posted by definingmoment

I think you should take your own advice, pal

But hey, who am I to argue with the man who designed linux......lol

cuz thats what i said, right?

[definingmoment]

Originally Posted by babaki

cuz thats what i said, right?

By responding to someone by just stating that they are "wrong" when you haven't given a reasonable argument to defend your stance and obviously don't know what you're talking about, implies that you think you are some sort of linux expert, which you obviously are not. Linux was not created for the sole purpose of people like you being a mooch and using free software. Thats is a nice perk of linux, but that doesn't mean all things will stay, or should always be free. That's the problem with people who are uneducated. Alot of people spend many hours developing linux software, so if one day(or today) those people would like some money for their time and effort(when you are already using thing developed by them) you're telling me that you would say "go &%^* yourself". That's why you obviously don't understand linux, or anything for that matter, good luck with that

[firmhonda]

Quit the bickering, this is a thread with some good information and it would be shame to have to lock it due to an argument over something like this.

Now, if you want to get technical about it.. The point of linux was to be able to use Unix on a laptop, which is what the L in linux stands for. When it was created it was made to be open source so it could be downloaded for free and "modified" to fit the users personal needs. It was actually something that the creator of linux specified when giving out the operating system, he said "You can not charge money for this." Of course there's always ways around that, which the biggest company to exploit the loopholes is Apple. All of apples operating systems are just linux with a nice little layer on top to make it seem as if you're getting something completely different, when in reality they're charging you for something that they got for free and made it hip by adding an apple logo. Of course they added quite a bit more, but IMO not enough to charge the amount of money that they do charge. But that's neither here nor there.

The topic of security in Linux is simple.. More people use windows so it's more vulnerable. Apples os' and Linux would both be more at risk and vulnerable than windows if it were equally as popular. Not many people write viruses for linux because it wouldn't attack many systems out there, and that doesn't gain popularity for them. The few viruses out there that are linux and apple os specific seem to do more damage to the system than your average virus does to windows. Why? Because windows taken 100X the security measures to keep your information and computer safe. So to call it "crappy windows software" is a bit uninformed, windows has just as many problems as any other operating system.. the only difference is the fact that more people have windows so you hear about more windows failures than any other. If apple were able to convince more people that they needed to be hip (or if there were more graphic artists out there) I'm sure that the whole "Apple software is better than Microsoft software" would be long gone.

It's not the operating system that's the problem (generally), it's the user.

I'm sure that there's more that I could add to this, but to be honest mythbusters is on and I'm only halfway paying attention, lol.

[definingmoment]

Originally Posted by firmhonda

Quit the bickering, this is a thread with some good information and it would be shame to have to lock it due to an argument over something like this.

Now, if you want to get technical about it.. The point of linux was to be able to use Unix on a laptop, which is what the L in linux stands for. When it was created it was made to be open source so it could be downloaded for free and "modified" to fit the users personal needs. It was actually something that the creator of linux specified when giving out the operating system, he said "You can not charge money for this." Of course there's always ways around that, which the biggest company to exploit the loopholes is Apple. All of apples operating systems are just linux with a nice little layer on top to make it seem as if you're getting something completely different, when in reality they're charging you for something that they got for free and made it hip by adding an apple logo. Of course they added quite a bit more, but IMO not enough to charge the amount of money that they do charge. But that's neither here nor there.

The topic of security in Linux is simple.. More people use windows so it's more vulnerable. Apples os' and Linux would both be more at risk and vulnerable than windows if it were equally as popular. Not many people write viruses for linux because it wouldn't attack many systems out there, and that doesn't gain popularity for them. The few viruses out there that are linux and apple os specific seem to do more damage to the system than your average virus does to windows. Why? Because windows taken 100X the security measures to keep your information and computer safe. So to call it "crappy windows software" is a bit uninformed, windows has just as many problems as any other operating system.. the only difference is the fact that more people have windows so you hear about more windows failures than any other. If apple were able to convince more people that they needed to be hip (or if there were more graphic artists out there) I'm sure that the whole "Apple software is better than Microsoft software" would be long gone.

It's not the operating system that's the problem (generally), it's the user.

I'm sure that there's more that I could add to this, but to be honest mythbusters is on and I'm only halfway paying attention, lol.

I wasn't talking about charging for the OS itself, but the applications, that require time and energy to design. I'm familiar with the structure and security of linux.

Edit: all done with VB?

[babaki]

under the terms of the GNU GPL license, the source code must distributed for free, to shared and modified by anyone.

in any case. that is a good list. cool thing about unbuntu 7.10 is the add/remove software. you can go through it and find a lot of stuff to just download right from there. if you havent tried unbuntu 7.10 its great windows alternative. its probably the easiest to use and most intuitive. although some old hardware will be hard to get drivers for, its a fun change.

[definingmoment]

FYI

GNU General Public License= - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Under this philosophy, the GPL is said to grant the recipients of a computer program the rights of the free software definition and uses copyleft to ensure the freedoms are preserved, even when the work is changed or added to. This is in distinction to permissive free software licences, of which the BSD licenses are the standard examples."

also from wikipedia:

free software definition: The definition published by FSF in February 1986 had two points:

The word "free" in our name does not refer to price; it refers to freedom. First, the freedom to copy a program and redistribute it to your neighbors, so that they can use it as well as you. Second, the freedom to change a program, so that you can control it instead of it controlling you; for this, the source code must be made available to you.[1]

[firmhonda]

Originally Posted by definingmoment

I wasn't talking about charging for the OS itself, but the applications, that require time and energy to design. I'm familiar with the structure and security of linux.

Edit: all done with VB?

Yes, and I kind of miss it. I was originally going to take vb2 but they replaced that class with structured cabling, which I have the most annoying instructor in the world so it's a royal pita. I walked out of vb with a 94 though.

Anyways, the applications are definitely where they get you... That's what they charge for. I personally would rather get something like Fedora and install whatever apps I would like on it so I could have a cheap OS with a whole lot of possibilities. I really do like linux, and it's odd that the more I learn about it the more that I seem to hold against apple for taking an idea and charging a ridiculous amount of money for it (iPhone anyone?). But I should keep that out of this thread so it doesn't go offtopic.

Repped OP for the link.

[definingmoment]

I walked out of vb with a 94 though

^Well done!, +1 to the OP too!

[Duce2k]

Great find