Java Programmers

***CaliGuy*** · 05-18-2007, 01:55 AM

I am currently trying to learn Java (with just books). I am curious if thise of you who make a living using Java: Did you go to school for such or was it DIY? Also, do you work from home?

Am I just wasting my time?

8thgenuser · 05-18-2007, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliGuy

I am currently trying to learn Java (with just books). I am curious if thise of you who make a living using Java: Did you go to school for such or was it DIY? Also, do you work from home?

Am I just wasting my time?

If you're familiar with any programming language, you should be able to pick it up with a few books. If you had any C or C++ training, Java should be pretty easy to follow. I did try to learn in quite a few years back, but my career didn't lead me down that path, so I never really followed through with it.

***GameTraveler*** · 05-18-2007, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 8thgenuser

If you're familiar with any programming language, you should be able to pick it up with a few books. If you had any C or C++ training, Java should be pretty easy to follow. I did try to learn in quite a few years back, but my career didn't lead me down that path, so I never really followed through with it.

+1 I have to say that of all the Java books that I tried, the 21 Day version seemed the most direct. If you already are familiar with C, then there's also a Teach yourself Java in 21 minutes Which goes over the highlights of java.

Much of it was DIY, and a serious personal incident changed my career path from CompSci, to being more of a network/system engineer. *shrug*

It comes in handy though at times, when you just want to understand something better or just do a quick and dirty h4x.

***CaliGuy*** · 05-18-2007, 02:18 AM

I have no programming experience, except for calculators (for a Calculus class in college). I do have time though...

Shark Tek · 05-19-2007, 01:31 AM

You aren't losing your time. Java and .Net(C#, Visual) are the most widely used programming language in the computer world.

I had seen job opportunities with pretty good salaries for Java Developers in big companies like Dell, HP, IBM, Honeywell, etc.

sd5599 · 05-19-2007, 01:35 AM

Java is good for learning object oriented structures. But web technologies ftw. Even internal desktop applications are quickly making the trip to the intranet. However, I learned on Java and it helped make a very easy transition to web programming. Any questions, hit me up, my career is in development

DATA02 · 05-19-2007, 01:51 AM

I took a java class for school not too long ago and although it was the most demanding class I have ever taken in college, it was also the most rewarding. If I remember right I used Text Pad to write the code, compile/build, and execute. I stayed up into the early morning writing code, not because I really had to, more because it was challenging and I wanted it to execute properly. I’m trying to find the calculator program I wrote which was a cultivation of my java learning experience. I’ll try to find it and post it for you to check out. Recently I have been hooked on Linux and learning to write script.

**firmhonda** · 05-19-2007, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DATA02

I took a java class for school not too long ago and although it was the most demanding class I have ever taken in college, it was also the most rewarding. If I remember right I used Text Pad to write the code, compile/build, and execute. I stayed up into the early morning writing code, not because I really had to, more because it was challenging and I wanted it to execute properly. I’m trying to find the calculator program I wrote which was a cultivation of my java learning experience. I’ll try to find it and post it for you to check out. Recently I have been hooked on Linux and learning to write script.

A shortcut and more visual (obviously) approach to this would be to use Visual Basic. I just dropped out of a programming class that was based around Visual Basic .net 2003 and I really had a good time playing around with it.. making the program visually, then writing the psuedo code, then testing it all (which never, ever worked the first time around). If I hadn't missed so many classes dealing with dental work I would have actually learned a whole lot more. Oh well, After I take a quarter out to finish all the dental stuff and get another job I'll be going straight back to that class.

Shark Tek · 05-19-2007, 03:08 AM

Try Netbeans, its offer a pretty good GUI developing platform. Matisse engine offers an easy way to create graphical user interfaces as easy as Visual Basic (drag and drop). It also support Web Applications using J2EE, JSP, Servlets with full autocomplete code including HTML. Another cool plugin of Netbeans its Profiler that will help you identify bottlenecks on your Java App that makes your application slow.

Also with the help of a plugin you can also use Netbeans for C++ programming.

The good side of Java is that you can make your application compatible with many operating systems. The down side is that isn't as fast as compiled programming languages like C, C++, C#, the reason is that Java is an interpreted language like javascript, perl, awk, shell, etc.

NightKidsGTR · 05-19-2007, 04:01 AM

Man, I learned Java and Visual Basic for school. I remember most of my VB, but not much of the Java; only enough to pass the class. I had a horrible teacher.

Zaxx81 · 06-02-2007, 06:25 AM

I'm in my Senior Year at the University of Oklahoma, for Computer Engineering. I have had 3 classes on Java Programming, and would say it is a very nice and usefull language to learn.

For students it is now taught in Intro to Programming at most Universities, so you don't need prior knowledge to learn it. The easiest way to learn it proficiently is to go to a Community College or something and take the class. Or simply learn with a Java in 21 days book.

Zaxx81 · 06-02-2007, 06:26 AM

Oh and Netbeans 5.5 is awesome for programming in Java, best of all its completely free. It's auto-complete feature is nice, a lot like Visual Studio, and can help make sure you are making sense with your syntax.

jonebone · 06-04-2007, 04:42 PM

As a computer science graduate (as of May 06), I can say that Java is definitely one of the easiest languages to learn, but quite difficult to master.

You don't have to manage your own memory (maybe this is over your head) like in C++, and the structure of the language is pretty straightforward.

However, even if you can teach it to yourself, a company is likely to look for a degree when hiring potential applicants. At the very least, you should have coded complex programs to display at any potential job interview.

Nonetheless, if you are dedicated you can learn it. Its a hell of a lot simpler than assembly language....

***CaliGuy*** · 06-04-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jonebone

As a computer science graduate (as of May 06), I can say that Java is definitely one of the easiest languages to learn, but quite difficult to master.

You don't have to manage your own memory (maybe this is over your head) like in C++, and the structure of the language is pretty straightforward.

However, even if you can teach it to yourself, a company is likely to look for a degree when hiring potential applicants. At the very least, you should have coded complex programs to display at any potential job interview.

Nonetheless, if you are dedicated you can learn it. Its a hell of a lot simpler than assembly language....

I have no intention of doing anything but working from home. I assume the money will be small, but that's fine with me...I've already gone to school and I have no intention of getting a second degree. I just need some sort of work I can do from home so I can live/work abroad...

8thgenuser · 06-04-2007, 06:08 PM

I wish I could work from home. If I could, I wouldn't always have to ALT-TAB my way off of 8thCivic everytime someone walked by my desk!

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