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Old 02-01-2007, 07:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Revolutionary technology that produces FREE ENERGY finally here?

"Steorn claims to have perfected a technology that produces free, clean and constant energy. They say it can revolutionize technology forever. This means never having to recharge your phone, never having to refuel your car. A world with an infinite supply of clean energy for all. Steorn issued a challenge to the scientific world and currently has 492 qualified scientists/engineers that have applied to test their miracle technology and release its findings."

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Old 02-01-2007, 07:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Windmills are solar panels also produce free energy. Oh yeah, and dams.
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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dont think u can compare this to something like a windmill or solar panels. for those things you need wind or sunlight to produce energy. these guys are basically trying to say they can make energy from nothing, using magnets. imagine the possibilities if this is proven true.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_...tion_of_energy

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Old 02-01-2007, 03:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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It sounds amazing, but let's just see what happens with this idea..
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If true, this will never see the world's population. Why would Exxon, BP, Conoco Phillips, etc. "let" this come to fruition and acceptance into the scientific community? It will be bought or the plans will be destroyed. My dad's friend made a car engine that ran off of decomposing vegetable matter in the early 80s. Exxon offered him a deal he couldn't refuse.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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There are companies developing generator systems that use the rise and fall of the ocean's tides. That's free. Geothermal energy is free.
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If true, this will never see the world's population. Why would Exxon, BP, Conoco Phillips, etc. "let" this come to fruition and acceptance into the scientific community? It will be bought or the plans will be destroyed.
That's another thing that crossed my mind. I think that it's rediculous that so many companies are okay with killing the world just to make more money. I guess that falls in to the whole "I should be used to it but I'm not" category.

I would think that companies of that size would just find a way to monopolize off of the new technology. Surely one of them would realize that if they were the one company that followed this, they would make quite a bit of money off of it.
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thats why they invited the scientists to test it.. to prove that it works while contradicting that exact law.

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If true, this will never see the world's population. Why would Exxon, BP, Conoco Phillips, etc. "let" this come to fruition and acceptance into the scientific community? It will be bought or the plans will be destroyed. My dad's friend made a car engine that ran off of decomposing vegetable matter in the early 80s. Exxon offered him a deal he couldn't refuse.
thats very true and i heard alot about this too. its a possibility and most likely going to happen but lets hope otherwise.. i hate how corrupt our society and govt is.
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dont think u can compare this to something like a windmill or solar panels. for those things you need wind or sunlight to produce energy. these guys are basically trying to say they can make energy from nothing, using magnets. imagine the possibilities if this is proven true.
Huh...odd that another of your threads caught my eye. Again, my greatest sympathies for your friend.

That said: This is stark raving lunacy. Not from you, specifically, but rather what these folks propose. Although given the fit 'n finish of the site and the fairly sophisticated marketingspeak present there, I doubt these guys are nuts. They are probably fully-aware scam artists.

The irony here is how transparent their claims are. These quotes (emphasis added) really tell you all you need to know about their credibility:

"Our technology has been independently validated by engineers and scientists - always off the record, always proven to work."

"Those who were prepared to complete testing have all confirmed our claims; however none will publicly go on record."

I'll go out on a limb here and say that this reluctance to "publicly go on the record," let alone publish detailed results, continues indefinitely.

Perpetual motion simply doesn't exist, folks. No free energy. Sorry. It always comes from somewhere. And since the philosophy of science dictates that nothing can ever be stated as a complete, 100% absolute, and therefore philosophically the tiniest possibility always exists, any claims to perpetual motion/free energy must at least provide adequate evidence and withstand proper, thorough peer-review, including broad independent duplication of results.

Which, of course, leads us to this delightful gem:

"The company is seeking a jury of twelve qualified experimental physicists to define the tests required, the test centres to be used, monitor the analysis and then publish the results."

"See?", Steorn is saying. "We are going to let the scientific community test our claims!" Uhuh. Sure. A "jury" picked by Steorn, versus, say, a detailed how-to-build-your-own article in a scientific journal (citing patents but granting research-only exceptions, naturally, to protect their property rights). And I'll bet any money that some combination of the jury's tests, testing centers, and "monitoring" will be questionable and/or not fully made available to the public. Somewhere, at some point, you'll be told "I can't tell you that" or "please don't open that black box on the machine." Of course, we may not get that far. Perhaps the jury will never quite be assembled, with ominous rumblings from anonymous jurors of harassment and death threats.

So, uh, yeah. Bunk.
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I have a 'Mk 19' Cold Fusion generator in my garage. Its up for sale if anyone wants to buy it.
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This technology goes against the brightest minds in science and directly against the laws of physics.

I guess windmills and ocean tide generators are considered "free" sources of energy. However, they don't defy the law of physics.

Steorns techonology does. You cannot create a net gain of energy without a source. And they haven't been able to indentify this source.
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This technology goes against the brightest minds in science and directly against the laws of physics.

I guess windmills and ocean tide generators are considered "free" sources of energy. However, they don't defy the law of physics.

Steorns techonology does. You cannot create a net gain of energy without a source. And they haven't been able to indentify this source.
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